Monk is now 57
Mage is FINALLY 70
The good news about doing radiant echoes from level 34 is that you accumulate 40K+ of the event currency.
The bad news is the drops you get are infrequent and so far below relevant until you hit 60. So you will level quickly but basically only be able to tag monsters. You won't be able to solo anything (on a mage anyways)
My will to play mage was sapped pretty hard and it has nothing to do with the class other than lack of survivability. The server (Baelgun) at times had ~5 people doing Echoes. Other times there was a rolling murderball, but you had to find it and keep up with it. With such small populations, the only thing worthy of effort are the miniboss fights in the events. So even if you are going along a a good clip, it gets very repetitive after 30-40 minutes.
I do have heirlooms but most cap at 44 or 36(34?) So definitely max those out if you have the gold and time. Probably be easier with the warband sharing stuff.
But again, I ended up with 40K+ currency which made it much easier to fill out my stable of 70s with 480 gear. So some that were il360 became il410. And il410 characters became il440. As long as you fill out all the rings/cloaks and other 2K cost items, you can boost a lot of characters to il400+ and avoid the 5K and 8K items. Side note is that it does seem to drop weapons, legs and chests more often. So with some patience, you won't have to buy 1-2 of those with casual or off/on play.
Pretty happy with my il400+ list. I am totally confused as to what I will main. Which probably means I won't main. But that isn't anything new.
il400+
shd priest, sur hunter, unh dk, ret paladin, enh shaman, arc mage, hav dh, dem warlock, fer druid
I think maybe I have an alt problem. Keep in mind that I've been playing since 2004, so...
I'm thinking I'll delete some of them soon. Starting with the Evokers. I have a couple bank alts in there. When I get my warband situation sorted, I'll probably get rid of those bank alts, too.
That is one of the first things I did when I fired the pre patch up.
It gives you this thing that says log into this character's server for a gear update.
The characters in the 10s - 30s I couldn't be bothered to upgrade so I deleted at least 10 characters.
The only reason I keep an oddly missing from the list 16 monk is that it is the only character in GWJ Alliance guild 
-At one point I had one of every race hunter class as of Cataclysm.
-I've also had at least 5 horde races of shaman only to level a dark iron dwarf to 70.
-I had at least 5 nightbourne characters all deleted. (hunter, mage, priest, warlock and warrior)
-I don't think I have any more dranei characters. Oh, that's right, my only one left is my 70 dk. At one point I had one of each class available to them when their expansion launched.
-Dranei was my highest hunter and for a while highest class until B4A and I unlocked vulpera.
-I do have a dranei warrior that I forgot about. And my highest paladin (50 pre level squish) was a dranei until I rolled a lightforged and leveled it to 70 post level squish
-Sadly only my vulpera hunter and mage survived that purge out of priest, monk, rogue, warlock, hunter and mage.
-LOL that is a lot more than 10!
Sorry, one more thing...
-That druid is my oldest surviving character. It is my original main. It is the class I leveled to 58 to unlock death knights in the lich king expansion.
-I can't remember which expansion awarded which, but that rogue is a boosted character to 100 and that warrior is a 90 boost.
-The rogue was the first one to 110 and the one who leveled through Argus. But struggled a bit in B4A.
-My demon hunter thrived in B4A and was the first to 120 and the one that unlocked nightborne and most of the allied races.
-That death knight was the second to 120 and was the one that unlocked the alliance allied races
-I leveled mage, priest and hunter vulpera simultaneously but the only one that wasn't abandoned was the hunter after the level squish.
-That hunter was the highest level and got the furthest into dragonflight before the radiant echoes event.
-And then radiant echoes changed everything
Most of my current 70s were 45 when I re-upped for War Within. The last time I had all my characters at max level was Legion. I started quite a few more to check out the allied races. Still not done with that--I've only done the Horde allied races.
I need to revisit my policy of having a male and female of each race. Too many races for that now!
I don't have mechagnome, kul tiran or zandalari troll.
I could do gadgetzan now. It was pretty tough solo back in the day when mechagnomes were first released.
Are there better ways to grind rep these days other than world quests?
No idea about rep grinding although I may have to learn if I want all the cool mounts and transmogs.
For allied races, it is much much easier now. Just get any character to 50 and go to the horde/alliance embassy, and you can start the quest for any allied race. No more rep requirement.
Oh, damn. And here I have been doing world quests
Fired up my evoker and felt just strange. Like it was so different from any other class that I wondered if I was playing another mmo 
I always start a new character when I come back to an expansion (I normally play for 2-3 months and then stray off to some other game). What I don't remember is how gated everything is. I wanted a garrison for my new toon so I went to the garrison area. No quest. Turns out I have to do the Draenor intro questline to get there. There were areas of Shadowlands I could not get to even though I completed the questlines on other characters.
Honestly, I don't mind going back and doing older content again. It's fun and I don't have to think too much. Mythic BFA dungeons I never got to do so went back to collect those achievements. With that being said, I kind of wish the stuff was just opened up for me. I may have to rethink this "start a new character every expansion" thing going forward.
With Warbands there's a decent chance they start opening that stuff up and making more of it account-wide. Given that they had to turn off one of their premium paid services to make the feature work, I expect they aren't done adding to it.
Legacy content integration is going to be low priority, for sure, but it might happen. I'd most expect it in conjunction with another old expansion "Remix" event.
03:46:00 to go until Early Access.
I'm looking forward to watching the servers melt.
Early early access went very smoothly for me.
I didn't check out the beta, even though it was included with the early access. Going through the War Within introduction today was pretty damned epic. Terrible things happened. Worst part is we might not get to murder the voidfemaledoggo in this expansion, since it's the first of a 3-expansion storyline!
That was probably the most significant opening to an expansion in a long time.
Bummed out at what happened to one of my favorite locations in the game, though.
I always start a new character when I come back to an expansion (I normally play for 2-3 months and then stray off to some other game). What I don't remember is how gated everything is. I wanted a garrison for my new toon so I went to the garrison area. No quest. Turns out I have to do the Draenor intro questline to get there. There were areas of Shadowlands I could not get to even though I completed the questlines on other characters.
Honestly, I don't mind going back and doing older content again. It's fun and I don't have to think too much. Mythic BFA dungeons I never got to do so went back to collect those achievements. With that being said, I kind of wish the stuff was just opened up for me. I may have to rethink this "start a new character every expansion" thing going forward.
For Draenor if you get the quest then abandon it right away then just walk thru the Dark Portal in whatever zone it is in you start in Draenor at ur garrison and only have to chop trees to build it. You do not have to go thru the whole intro at the Dark Portal part.
DeThroned wrote:I always start a new character when I come back to an expansion (I normally play for 2-3 months and then stray off to some other game). What I don't remember is how gated everything is. I wanted a garrison for my new toon so I went to the garrison area. No quest. Turns out I have to do the Draenor intro questline to get there. There were areas of Shadowlands I could not get to even though I completed the questlines on other characters.
Honestly, I don't mind going back and doing older content again. It's fun and I don't have to think too much. Mythic BFA dungeons I never got to do so went back to collect those achievements. With that being said, I kind of wish the stuff was just opened up for me. I may have to rethink this "start a new character every expansion" thing going forward.
For Draenor if you get the quest then abandon it right away then just walk thru the Dark Portal in whatever zone it is in you start in Draenor at ur garrison and only have to chop trees to build it. You do not have to go thru the whole intro at the Dark Portal part.
Oh nice, thanks! I have all next week off to play some War Within. Got to 80 last night so just going through the zones, harvesting and mining to make money, and having some fun. I still definitely want to get back to the old world to complete some achievements but it's nice to have new areas to explore. Delve is also an absolute blast!
Got to 80 last night
What the hell have they done with leveling?!
Here I am just leveling up alts because the Radiant Echoes event is going to be over in a couple of days.
DeThroned wrote:Got to 80 last night
What the hell have they done with leveling?!
Finally leaning into the idea that leveling is a means to an end (ie end game stuff) and not an end unto itself. It only took 20 years!
Prot warrior is a lot of fun.
It seems like every other expansion or perhaps patch, they make tank classes awesome.
I remember very fondly my tank DH having a blast soloing world bosses in Legion. It was great to see people hovering around one, not wanting to dive in. Then I glide in and people are hesitant at first but after a few seconds realize "I got this" and start unloading.
I have plenty of smile inducing stories during that hesitation phase where a priest throws a bubble on me, testing the waters. A few seconds later, I see my buff bar fill up and its the very opposite of lights out with all of the spell effects around me.
BadKen wrote:DeThroned wrote:Got to 80 last night
What the hell have they done with leveling?!
Finally leaning into the idea that leveling is a means to an end (ie end game stuff) and not an end unto itself. It only took 20 years!
That's the exact opposite of what I enjoy about the game.
It's the reason I have 40 something alts. I'm happy for the people who think leveling is a chore, but that's not me.
20 minutes into the new story.
We'll that was unexpected!
Thank you for your service Khadgar and Dalaran.
The leveling definitely feels faster than previous expansions- I dinged 80 last night and am still only midway through the 2nd zone, only doing quests and profession stuff (and a couple delves). I had almost completed the release content in Shadowlands and Dragonflight before hitting their level caps.
Khaz Algar has kelp elementals.
That is all.
I must be doing something wrong. I think I am only 72.5 and I have done a delve, a dungeon, and am just past the brewkeg bit in the story.
Well, delves are a blast. I did the dungeon as a follower dungeon and that was a blast. (lots of leaps of faith, lol)
The best thing I can say about the expansion is that it feels like a game. I played it for a little bit which ended up being 3.5 hours. I played it again this morning and 40 minutes flew by.
Most of the early drops are 430 gear so that should give you a good barometer of how easy questing will be for you and your alts.
Hero talents seem flashy for the DH. I chose the empowering of the glaive throw skill. Its cool but not game changing. (I only have 3 points in the tree...)
I must be doing something wrong. I think I am only 72.5 and I have done a delve, a dungeon, and am just past the brewkeg bit in the story.
Well, delves are a blast. I did the dungeon as a follower dungeon and that was a blast. (lots of leaps of faith, lol)
The best thing I can say about the expansion is that it feels like a game. I played it for a little bit which ended up being 3.5 hours. I played it again this morning and 40 minutes flew by.Most of the early drops are 430 gear so that should give you a good barometer of how easy questing will be for you and your alts.
Hero talents seem flashy for the DH. I chose the empowering of the glaive throw skill. Its cool but not game changing. (I only have 3 points in the tree...)
The only thing you can do wrong is not enjoy yourself! The zones are all pretty amazing and I'm loving everything about this expansion. Delves are amazing and I can't wait for more to open up. I can clear tier 3's easily now, but still have 110% (I calculated, the math works) more fun grouping with a friend to go through them. My main goal was to get through the story quests in each zone. That seems to unlock the most stuff. Once that was complete, I now am just roaming the world doing whatever I come across. There's a delve mount you get for completing a quest, I did that. There's another mount you get for picking up those gold star things in the sky, working on that now.
My friend, on the other hand, is all about top tier. He's ran heroic dungeons, upgraded most of his gear to 584 (Once you get to renown 7 or 8 you can buy a piece from the quartermaster), and is throwing a ton of information at me about being the most powerful and how I can upgrade gear. For him, that's fun. For me, I like achievements and exploration.
I guess what I'm saying is, have fun and do whatever makes you happy! That's all that matters in the long run
Oh I am totally having fun. Just curious how others seems to be able to blitz to 80 whereas I've put 10+ hours in and just hit 75?
I really don't care because I am enjoying the story and have enough trickle upgrades to keep me from feeling too far behind the curve.
Also, gear drops @lvl 74-75 are in the il510 to il540 range.
Tear inducing:
Magni unleashed
Curious to see where the unnamed earthen female plot goes... I doubt it but it would be cool if that is Azeroth (I don't think it is, I am guessing that is just the lore of the unlocking of the earthen allied race)
Also, it makes me wonder if tinker or machine priest was supposed to be a new class in the expansion but was cut when it became 3 expansions. Still hoping it comes to be
Just curious how others seems to be able to blitz to 80 whereas I've put 10+ hours in and just hit 75?
There was a bug that allowed people to massacre everything at level 70. Due to issues with level scaling, a level 70 equipped with upgraded Dalaran Defender gear could basically solo dungeons. So people were turning off experience on one character so they could kill everything, and they would group that character with their main character who had experience still turned on.
People were reaching level 80 in a couple of hours that way. On the wow forums, someone reported that the first level 80 they saw was less than an hour from the start of early access.
Blizzard fixed that by removing the ability to disable XP gain for characters above level 69. I hope they're also looking into the level scaling for a long-term fix, because it was obviously broken from the Radiant Memories event. As someone who ended up leveling 24 characters to 70 during the prepatch, most from level 45, but some from ten, I became intimately familiar with the brokenness of level scaling.
I know it's not a competition, but... 
I did a big alt binge when Dragonflight's pre-patch hit and got a whole bunch of 60s. The leveling speed from the Elemental invasions was a good speed for exploring the various talent trees.
I only took 2 characters to 70 during the Echoes event though. Just wasn't feeling it. Oddly enough, they're a Frost DK with a 2-hander and a Fury Warrior running 1-handed weapons. Me and my special snowflakes...
Right now I'm pushing through the main campaign on my Monk. After that I'll bring other members of the Warband through to clean up the various side quests.
Unless I get distracted by the new crafting PvE... I kind of want to start tearing through the NPC crafting orders on the Patron tab of the crafting menu and I don't 100% know why...
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