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Feels like it is time to separate out the election stuff from the rest of the political news - or the political news thread will just become drown in presidential election stories/discussion.
Donald Trump's String of Gaffes Over Weekend Raises Eyebrows
Donald Trump has been criticized for making a string of gaffes during two weekend campaign speeches.The Republican presidential candidate addressed crowds on Saturday in Richmond, Virginia, and Greensboro, North Carolina, ahead of Super Tuesday, when more than a dozen states will vote in Republican primaries.
Ron Filipkowski, a Trump critic and the editor-in-chief of the independent news network MeidasTouch, posted a video on X, formerly Twitter, that compiled 32 incidents in both speeches in which, Filipkowski said, the Republican "mispronounced words, got confused, mixed up names, forgot names, and babbled insane nonsense."
Donald Trump's String of Gaffes Over Weekend Raises Eyebrows
Donald Trump has been criticized for making a string of gaffes during two weekend campaign speeches.The Republican presidential candidate addressed crowds on Saturday in Richmond, Virginia, and Greensboro, North Carolina, ahead of Super Tuesday, when more than a dozen states will vote in Republican primaries.
Ron Filipkowski, a Trump critic and the editor-in-chief of the independent news network MeidasTouch, posted a video on X, formerly Twitter, that compiled 32 incidents in both speeches in which, Filipkowski said, the Republican "mispronounced words, got confused, mixed up names, forgot names, and babbled insane nonsense."
He's been doing this his whole life..
Supreme Court unanimously rules to keep Trump on Colorado ballot
This phrase once again comes to mind...babbled insane nonsense. This country keeps getting me more and more disappointed with no light at the end of the tunnel to give me hope.
Functioning as intended.
The primary ads have all been unbearable. I'm going to lose it in October.
The next Republican running for state office in North damn Carolina that talks about building a wall is going to make me smash my TV to shut their dumb ass up
But how will you keep all the Virginians out?
I don't think I've seen a single ad and our primary is tomorrow. My current representative is technically running against Biden. Not a single ad.
Over here it's just lots of stories about how painful a second Trump presidency is going to be for Europe, and how the continent wasted the last 4 years by not preparing for it.
Unfortunately, I can't argue with any of it.
I’m not going to survive this.
To be fair, nobody might survive this.
Freaking depressing.
There seem to be a bunch of talk/copium about polls being wrong currently.
But that very much also just feels like a repeat of previous elections. There seem to be very little reason to believe Trump is not either ahead or on par with Biden currently. Which is insane after everything that has happened.
I mean, its been four whole years. Most people in the US have forgotten how bad Trump was and how much good Biden has done to unf*ck us.
People elect Republicans when Democrats refuse to (or can't) work fast enough to fix the things Republicans broke the last time they had power.
I mean, its been four whole years. Most people in the US have forgotten how bad Trump was and how much good Biden has done to unf*ck us.
This is the reason I am concerned that 2024 is shaping up to be a retread of 2016. Just like that year, I have deep concerns that Trump has a real shot at winning, while too many people are dismissing him as a joke or a has-been.
Part of why I fear the chances are greater than in 2020 is because a growing number of people I knew who voted against him in 2020 have short/poor memories and are grumbling about how "it wasn't so bad with him in office" and seem to imply they're going to switch back to an R vote this year.
There seem to be a bunch of talk/copium about polls being wrong currently.
But that very much also just feels like a repeat of previous elections. There seem to be very little reason to believe Trump is not either ahead or on par with Biden currently. Which is insane after everything that has happened.
Yeah.
In 2020, Biden won the popular vote by 4.4 percentage points, but in the electoral college, he only won the tipping point state by 0.6 percentage points. Unless there have been some significant population movements I'm unaware of, like a lot of Democratic voters moving from blue to swing states, the current polls would have to be very wrong or change a tremendous amount in the coming months for Biden to have a chance.
I just don't see it happening without something completely earth-shattering, like death of a candidate. Hell, even if the mythical pee tape or n-word tape suddenly emerged, they'd just claim it was a deep fake and I think that'd provide enough psychological cover for far too many people to just shrug their shoulders and still vote for Trump without feeling a guilty conscience.
Haley took Vermont, I think it's over folks.
Vermont primary republican voters are slightly more reasonable than the bulk of their compatriots. (But only slightly).
multiple outlets are reporting that Haley’s gonna announce the suspension of her campaign today.
Her only real chance was that the courts would prevent Trump from running for President. Or that the Republican base would accept her and spurn their favorite incompetent dictator.
In retrospect, I don't know which impossible scenario was less likely.
Or Trump dying. She shouldn't drop out till November.
Or Trump dying. She shouldn't drop out till November.
Yeah, I've got metaphorical money on at least one of the aging presidential candidates dropping dead from entirely natural causes before the election.
I'm starting to worry about Democratic primary voters in key states like Minnesota voting "Uncommitted" for Joe Biden over Gaza.
I get that the Gaza response is terrible, so this isn't a case of letting good be the enemy of perfect. But I can't get over how some pro-Palestinian voters see Trump as a good alternative to settle the conflict. If anything, seems like Trump would embrace some Baron Harkonnen cosplaying when dealing with Hamas.
I'm starting to worry about Democratic primary voters in key states like Minnesota voting "Uncommitted" for Joe Biden over Gaza.
I get that the Gaza response is terrible, so this isn't a case of letting good be the enemy of perfect. But I can't get over how some pro-Palestinian voters see Trump as a good alternative to settle the conflict. If anything, seems like Trump would embrace some Baron Harkonnen cosplaying when dealing with Hamas.
Democrats: “your most powerful tool is to vote!”
Voters: “okay, stop aiding and supporting atrocities or we’ll withhold our vote in this largely symbolic primary election.”
Democrats: “No! Not like that!”
They keep talking about favorability numbers.
I think there is a stark difference between unfavourability with Trump versus unfavourability with Biden.
Percentages don't tell the truth. There is no "I kinda don't like Trump". Whereas I know there is a lot of "Not that I don't like him, I just want someone else to run besides Biden."
That, to me, is a huge difference.
I'm starting to worry about Democratic primary voters in key states like Minnesota voting "Uncommitted" for Joe Biden over Gaza.
I get that the Gaza response is terrible, so this isn't a case of letting good be the enemy of perfect. But I can't get over how some pro-Palestinian voters see Trump as a good alternative to settle the conflict. If anything, seems like Trump would embrace some Baron Harkonnen cosplaying when dealing with Hamas.
I had this same thought, and on NPR that question was actually posed to a Palestinian American who voted Uncommitted. His answer was pretty poignant "I've had 80 of my friends and family in Gaza killed by Isreali forces, what can Trump do that's so much worse?".
He can let the same thing happen in Ukraine. And maybe decide to do the same thing here in the US or at least at the border.
NPR better keep that guys contact information so they can ask him again when he's being deported after Trump enacts his Muslim Ban 2.0.
Do they not realize the Republicans are bigger supporters of Israel because it feeds into their evangelical doomsday fantasies?
It's easy to talk about sunk costs when its a bad $$ investment, or when we're sitting here behind our keyboards. This is some guys family. Having never lost 1 let alone 80 people in a war I'm not going to ask someone who has "to ignore your sunk cost and think about the future".
As someone with a lot of family in Taiwan, I very much realize that a Trump presidency is a much worse outcome. However, i'm not going to put it on some guy who claims he just lost his entire family clan to think about my "potential" problems if he thinks the current president has been at least somewhat responsible for his very real grief and outrage.
I had this same thought, and on NPR that question was actually posed to a Palestinian American who voted Uncommitted. His answer was pretty poignant "I've had 80 of my friends and family in Gaza killed by Isreali forces, what can Trump do that's so much worse?".
As much as I support Palestinians right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the fact that this person does not understand that Palestine will be wiped from the history books under Trump is astonishing.
Oh, here's one: under Trump you and your entire family will be dead as well as the massacres of Muslims, and PoC everywhere. Some of them might be spared but wish they were dead under the conditions they live and the anguish from the loss they've suffered.
WHAT PART OF WHITE MALE CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
(backed by the most powerful military in the world and the world's largest economy)
I had this same thought, and on NPR that question was actually posed to a Palestinian American who voted Uncommitted. His answer was pretty poignant "I've had 80 of my friends and family in Gaza killed by Isreali forces, what can Trump do that's so much worse?".As much as I support Palestinians right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, the fact that this person does not understand that Palestine will be wiped from the history books under Trump is astonishing.
Oh, here's one: under Trump you and your entire family will be dead as well as the massacres of Muslims, and PoC everywhere. Some of them might be spared but wish they were dead under the conditions they live and the anguish from the loss they've suffered.
WHAT PART OF WHITE MALE CHRISTIAN NATIONALISM DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
(backed by the most powerful military in the world and the world's largest economy)
This is my stance as well, though I also get the argument of being furious at the loss of family. I just hope these voters decide they’ve sent their message in the primary and not let Trump win in the general.
farley3k wrote:
Also, the platform of both major presidential candidates in the US.
I realize that’s just a funny ha ha, but as Bernie Sanders pointed out the other night on the Late Show, the conversation this year really needs to pivot from age to policy. When the conversation becomes all about age and accomplishments aren’t discussed, TFG gets a free pass to continue his fascist rambling and planning, and voters lose sight of Biden’s many first term wins. When compared with TFG’s first term accomplishments, there is no contest. It is more important to consider not the candidates’ ages, but the fact that thanks to TFG’s inexplicable influence, he was able to torpedo legislation that would have significantly improved the lives of the majority of people living in the US.
And if you think I have no sense of humor about these things, you are absolutely right. I have no sense of humor about the wealthiest nation on the planet having more children living in poverty per capita than any other wealthy nation. I have no sense of humor about the erosion of women’s bodily autonomy. I have no sense of humor about science denialism.
This year is the most important election in my five decades of voting. I don’t want to see Hitler, Xi, and Putin lovers elected because the political discussion is mired in age panic.
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