NFL 2023: The Week 15 thread

What did I just watch? That wasn't football, that was a snuff film.

Brandon Staley wrote:

"Games like this happen in the NFL,"

Sure.

NFL Street.

Best part for me is it's the same Raiders team who put up 0 a week ago.

When you put those two scorelines next to each other it's pretty much auto fire but just when.

Minase wrote:

What did I just watch? That wasn't football, that was a snuff film.

I watched this massacre well into the third quarter.

Why? Because of all the touchdowns! I had no idea NFL an team was allowed to score so many!

PS: Draw Play Dave on the Chargers' coach:

Usually, former head coaches go back and find a coordinator job. I’d be surprised if Staley gets anything higher than a low-tier positional gig next year, like a defensive backs coach somewhere. Ideally, he should be left in the catacombs of Paris without supplies, left to wander the endless darkness, surrounded by the specters of death that shall soon take him.

That's dark, man.

It's almost 8:30 am on the West Coast and as far as I know, he still has a job.

Things were so bad at the Chargers subreddit last night that everyone just turned to posting phone chargers.

Rat Boy wrote:

It's almost 8:30 am on the West Coast and as far as I know, he still has a job.

That's because Dean Spanos hadn't woken up yet.

He's awake.

Office must not open until 9, then.

Staley finishes his Chargers career with a .500 record, 24-24.

This places him 8th all time (out of 17) in Chargers coach win percentage.

At 7th is Anthony Lynn, whose .516 percentage was considered so insufficient that the team needed to fire him to bring in young hotshot Brandon Staley for the job.

*Legion* wrote:

Staley finishes his Chargers career with a .500 record, 24-24.

This places him 8th all time (out of 17) in Chargers coach win percentage.

At 7th is Anthony Lynn, whose .516 percentage was considered so insufficient that the team needed to fire him to bring in young hotshot Brandon Staley for the job.

Let's also not forget Marty Schottenheimer at .588 and Norv at .583. Being in the same conference as Brady and Peyton was bad for your job security, regardless of record.

I on January 14th wrote:

He [Staley] can't come back from this.

So I was 11 months off.

Enix wrote:

PS: Draw Play Dave on the Chargers' coach:

Usually, former head coaches go back and find a coordinator job. I’d be surprised if Staley gets anything higher than a low-tier positional gig next year, like a defensive backs coach somewhere. Ideally, he should be left in the catacombs of Paris without supplies, left to wander the endless darkness, surrounded by the specters of death that shall soon take him.

That's dark, man.

The fact that the defense was SO bad and underperformed its talent level, and the fact that other coaches were running Staley's scheme around the league better than he was, really makes Staley as a D-coordinator a tough sell at this point.

Been largely off-line today. Does Brandon Staley still have a job?

By the time I went to Defector today, the blog titled "This Is Not The Fact Of A Man With Job Security" with a picture of Brandon Staley had changed to "This Is Not The Fact Of A Man With Job Security [Update]".

So, who's the next Chargers coach?

As we discussed a few weeks ago, I think the situation is appealing, but ownership is a massive boat anchor on the job's desirability. In other words, I think it's a good opportunity for a young coach to harness Herbert and turn things around, but it's laughable to think Spanos is going to open his wallet and come up with the kind of number to attract a Harbaugh, Belichick, or any of the other "big" names appearing in the "who's the next Chargers coach?" hot-take articles.

I guess the technical answer for "next coach" is the interim coach, and we have an answer: outside linebackers coach Giff Smith. His coaching jobs have never been more than position coach at any level of football, so, good luck Giff.

Chargers GM Tom Telesco got sh!t-canned today too.

That potentially opens the door for Belichick, who's a two-fer hire. But lots of folks seem to think Belichick will end up in DC because he's from Annapolis and wants to stay on the East Coast.

Can you imagine Belichick hoodies in sunny Los Angeles?

*Legion* wrote:

Giff Smith

I've never been so disappointed that somebodies last name wasn't Tannen before in my life.

How do you pronounce his first name? Jiff or Giff?

Choosy owners choose Giff (on an interim basis).

Remember that Staley's Chargers missed the playoffs in 2021 because they couldn't beat the Rich Bisaccia coached Raiders in week 18. That makes it twice now that Staley was embarrassed at the hands of a Raiders interim coach.

Worried about trap game possibilities with the 49ers/Cardinals game, given that half the starting defense hasn't been practicing this week. Both starting defensive tackles in Javon Hargrave and Arik Armstead are officially out for the game, as is starting linebacker (in base personnel at least) Oren Burks.

Charvarius Ward and Dre Greenlaw are questionable and were only limited practice participants on Friday.

Division rival too. So that can definitely add a crap shoot vibe to it.

Why does Nick Mullens look like that??

Maybe shouldn't refer to Joe Mixon as the "battering ram".

Why didn’t they go for the win?

I don’t understand the point of calling a tush push play if you’re not even going to run it correctly.

Do teams not realize you can sub in a beefier QB or even have a RB take the snap, if your starting QB is smaller?

Do they not realize that you should have someone stronger than the smallest WR on your roster doing the pushing?

Do they not realize you should have more than one player doing the pushing?

Minnesota ran the play as if they’ve never actually bothered to look at the film and see how Philly does it.

That Tee Higgins TD though

Catch of the season?

Mullens vs. Browning! Trubisky vs. Minshew! Absolutely the matchups the NFL was hoping for when they scheduled these to be the only games on.

As a ravens fan, I’m not sure who to loathe more