NFL 2023: The Week 5 thread

Enix wrote:

Sunday late
Bengals at Cardinals
Eagles at Rams
Jets at Broncos
Chiefs at Vikings (GOTW bc Taylor Swift doesn't play for the Eagles)

Forgot to mention that Jets-Broncos is the NATE HACKETT REVENGE GAME.

I'm hoping that Zach Wilson goes nuts, the Jets score 50 and Sean Payton gets tossed off of a high-dive at Casa Bonita and is later boiled alive in a pot of queso.

Speaking of SEEKING REVENGE, I want heads on pikes for whoever scheduled these games for my local market:

Panthers-Lions (bc the Panthers have not yet been relegated)
Saints-Patriots (maybe two of the most boring teams in pro sports; game was voted Most Likely To End In 6-6 Tie)
Chiefs-Vikings (just because this game features two-thirds of the QBs featured in "Quarterback" is no reason to beam this into my home)

It's like the NFL really wants me to spend $8,000 on Sunday Ticket. Bah.

At least the Niners are in primetime

I'd moved to the DC suburbs back in the spring of 1998; one Sunday there was a game I was looking forward to watching, and instead IIRC got 0-5 Washington vs. 0-5 Philadelphia. It's why I signed up for Sunday Ticket; I just couldn't watch that game anymore.

What's the over-under on how many plays it will take the Lions defense to crush Bryce Young into a tiny little ball? 1.5?

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MilkmanDanimal wrote:

What's the over-under on how many plays it will take the Lions defense to crush Bryce Young into a tiny little ball? 1.5?

I looked at Next Gen Stats today, and saw Bryce Young is holding the ball for 2.93 seconds on average (8th longest), but his average depth of target is 5.2 yards (the shortest by half a yard, and over a yard shorter than the Daniel Jones 6.3 that was the shortest in 2022). That's a long time to hold onto the ball to throw Alex Smith passes. For comparison, Jimmy Garoppolo is holding it basically the same length (2.92 seconds) but throwing the ball 9.0 yards downfield.

I need to watch JT O'Sullivan's Bryce video. Someone accused Purdy of being a checkdown artist, but this is what checkdown artist numbers look like. Purdy's at 7.5 yards average depth and 2.56 seconds.

Listen, Bryce is trying to throw faster, but it takes him some time to actually get back into the pocket with those adorably tiny little legs. It's not his fault it takes 17 steps to get back to what for most is a 5 step dropback.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Listen, Bryce is trying to throw faster, but it takes him some time to actually get back into the pocket with those adorably tiny little legs. It's not his fault it takes 17 steps to get back to what for most is a 5 step dropback.

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Did we do this joke already?

I've got a 12-week-old corgi puppy right now, and he's got the tiniest legs imaginable, but that sonofab*tch can cover a whole lot of ground in an instant, so I don't know what Bryce's excuse is.

EDIT: Also took another peek at Next Gen Stats. The league's deepest thrower so far this year is Jordan Love. He's holding the ball for 2.84 seconds, and his average target is 10.1 yards. That's nearly double the depth of Tiny Bryce's throws.

Despite acting like it's been done for a while, Tom Brady's purchase of a minority stake of Raiders ownership is not complete, and it has now stalled due to the sweetheart price Mark Davis has offered Brady:

While there is support among some league leaders and the finance committee for Davis’s effort to sell a portion of the Raiders to Brady, the deal would be unlikely to be ratified at the proposed price, one of those people said.

It is not clear whether Davis and Brady, the seven-time Super Bowl winning quarterback for the New England Patriots and Tampa Bay Buccaneers who announced his retirement as an NFL player in February, will revise the deal to address the concerns and allow Brady to enter NFL ownership.

If minority team ownership for Brady falls through a second time, I will laugh so hard.

Bears building up a nice lead for their 2nd half collapse.

Looks like the Chicago breakdown has begun

Field goal from the Bears 13 rather than attempting 4th-and-3. I guess Riverboat Ron is dead.

Chicago is bad at tackling.

Washington is not very good at anything.

It's absolutely a Thursday Night Football game.

Terrible day to be a Bears fan; Dick Butkus dies, and Matt Eberflus is not going to be fired.

So, random Bears thoughts based on seeing that DJ Moore is already more than 10% of the way to the Bears' career receiving yardage mark of 5,059, set by Johnny Morris in the 1960s; there are currently 28 players active the NFL who have more career receiving yards than that. #28 is Marcedes Lewis. #29 is Chosen Anderson, who, at 5,024, is just shy of worthy of being the Bears all-time leader.

Justin Jefferson has already passed the Bears' career mark.

*Legion* wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

What's the over-under on how many plays it will take the Lions defense to crush Bryce Young into a tiny little ball? 1.5?

I looked at Next Gen Stats today, and saw Bryce Young is holding the ball for 2.93 seconds on average (8th longest), but his average depth of target is 5.2 yards (the shortest by half a yard, and over a yard shorter than the Daniel Jones 6.3 that was the shortest in 2022). That's a long time to hold onto the ball to throw Alex Smith passes. For comparison, Jimmy Garoppolo is holding it basically the same length (2.92 seconds) but throwing the ball 9.0 yards downfield.

I need to watch JT O'Sullivan's Bryce video. Someone accused Purdy of being a checkdown artist, but this is what checkdown artist numbers look like. Purdy's at 7.5 yards average depth and 2.56 seconds.

The TL,DW takeaways from the QB School video and my own suffering through four weeks of this nonsense, more or less in this order:

* The Panthers O-line is a complete sh!tshow
* The WRs aren't open (and the TEs aren't involved in the passing game; the RBs get a bunch of screens and dumpoffs)
* The play-calling is vanilla and predictable
* Bryce is sometimes struggling to find open guys

Bryce is going through 2-3 reads, no one's open in the middle of the field (he doesn't have time to wait for deep routes to get open), so he's just chucking it to the closest guy. It's not more complicated than that.

Enix wrote:

* The WRs aren't open

That's because they don't put Viska in.

Chase Claypool is now a Miami Dolphin. Chicago traded him for a swap of late round picks.

Claypool has worn out his welcome in two franchises now. Chicago was so absolutely done with him, they probably threw his stuff out into the street after the trade finalized.

*Legion* wrote:
Enix wrote:

* The WRs aren't open

That's because they don't put Viska in.

If there's a better solution to the offense's woes than putting in a guy who averages . . . checks stats . . . 37 yards from scrimmage/game over the course of his career, and 23 yards scrimmage/game since joining the Panthers, then, well . . . actually that might work as well as anything else Carolina would do.

Viska will get all the yards once he gets an offensive coordinator that understands his power.

*Legion* wrote:

Viska will get all the yards once he gets an offensive coordinator that understands his power.

I wish Viska's power was the ability to build a time machine and go back to 2017 and tell Cam not to stand in there against TJ Watt and get his throwing shoulder blasted.

Meanwhile, Panthers Twitter is (a) convinced that Frank Reich is sabotaging TBY's career because he wanted to draft Stroud and (b) retconning the DJ Moore trade (ie the Panthers should have kept him and stayed at the ninth pick or traded up to somewhere between the 2nd and 8th pick). I'm part of the dumbest fan base in pro sports.

I was out on Taylor-at-NFL-luxury-box-shots from Day One as it felt so try-hard but my GOD am I tired of McAfee's sleeveless ass popping up every time I open the ESPN app.

I will take her fake-ass touchdown celebrations like they're the f*cking moon landing over his gross attempt at K-Mart chic that reeks of bo and thirst for attention while we all know he is a millionaire lackey for the billionaire class and the proto-fascists that adore them. What a weak, unoriginal brand to "develop."

ESPN fired everyone else to pay for McAfee, now they've got to milk the arragement for everything they can.

The Broncos are actually trading Randy Gregory to the 49ers. He's basically getting the J.C. Jackson treatment; the Broncos pay most of the salary, and it's him and a 7th for SF's 6th.

Not at all shocked by this. Another one for the Kris Kocurek Pass Rusher Reclamation Project. Worth it for a mere pick swap plus the veteran minimum.

EDIT: My question of who the roster spot would come from has been answered, as the team released Kerry Hyder - most likely to be added to the practice squad if/when he clears waivers.

*Legion* wrote:

ESPN fired everyone else to pay for McAfee, now they've got to milk the arragement for everything they can.

Tank top Joe Rogan for Bomani Jones?

Pitaro:

Help. I’m at my sister’s wedding weekend and her father-in-law showed up to the rehearsal in a Russel Wilson Super Bowl jersey.

Rat Boy wrote:

Help. I’m at my sister’s wedding weekend and her father-in-law showed up to the rehearsal in a Russel Wilson Super Bowl jersey.

Get your sister a Malcom Butler jersey then.

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I'm in London this weekend and there are Bills fans everywhere. I have seen a solitary Jaguars fan.

Bruce wrote:

I'm in London this weekend and there are Bills fans everywhere. I have seen a solitary Jaguars fan.

I guess Legion traveled the furthest of us this week.