[News] They indicted!

Popehat with another good law 'xplainer about overt acts and elements of a conspiracy to respond to the "they're making free speech a crime" crowd.

Mixolyde wrote:

Popehat with another good law 'xplainer about overt acts and elements of a conspiracy to respond to the "they're making free speech a crime" crowd.

Thanks for that. Good insight. I like how he breaks down the acts into overt-but-not-criminal acts, such as tweets, and RICO acts, which are criminal.

It's becoming clearer to me that the GA case is going to be the last one to go to trial, due to its scope and the number of defendants.

My bet would be the case assigned to trump cultist Aileen Cannon will be the last to go to trial. I suspect she will happily delay it until 2060 or beyond.

Yuscil Taveras appears to have flipped.

Paleocon wrote:

Yuscil Taveras appears to have flipped.

That guy is 100% gonna fall out of a window.

TheGameguru wrote:
Paleocon wrote:

Yuscil Taveras appears to have flipped.

That guy is 100% gonna fall out of a window.

Can you successfully put a hit on somebody when you have a reputation for not paying your contractors?

Vargen wrote:
TheGameguru wrote:
Paleocon wrote:

Yuscil Taveras appears to have flipped.

That guy is 100% gonna fall out of a window.

Can you successfully put a hit on somebody when you have a reputation for not paying your contractors?

All Trump needs to do is spend one of his weekly rallies all like: “did you hear about this Taveras guy? Don’t really know him, never met him, but he sounds like a guy that should watch his back. It would be terrible if something happened to him. Terrible for him, great for America.” Within a week there would be a dozen different heavily-armed grandpas trying to track him down.

IMAGE(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4VoutzWUAEmGvq?format=jpg&name=medium)

He looks deranged. I think he wanted to go for righteous anger but he just looks crazy

How soon until I can get it on a coffee mug? I'll put Roodles on the other side and call it my mugshot mug.

I think he was going for.. Blue Steal!

Spoiler:

Pun intended

Prederick wrote:

IMAGE(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4VoutzWUAEmGvq?format=jpg&name=medium)

He tweeted yeeted Xeeted posted his own mugshot on Twitter X, the first time since previous ownership banned him for life, almost like he's trying to make an NFT out of his own arrest for trying to overthrow the US government.

Am I correct in reading he was allowed to input his own height/weight?

What kind of jail they running down there?

Rat Boy wrote:
Prederick wrote:

IMAGE(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4VoutzWUAEmGvq?format=jpg&name=medium)

He tweeted yeeted Xeeted posted his own mugshot on Twitter X, the first time since previous ownership banned him for life, almost like he's trying to make an NFT out of his own arrest for trying to overthrow the US government.

The left half of his face looks significantly older than the right half. Gotta get your tanning bed fixed, Donny.

So, at least one big trial going on in the middle of election season. I'm sure Trump will fund raise and the GOP will try to spin this to their advantage, but Dem PACS are going to spin this, too. Seeing Jan. 6 rioters, and the GA Raffensperger phone call, on loop is not going to win Trump more voters than he got in 2020.

If the election were held today I don't see how Trump can win, despite Biden's current low poll numbers. My fear is that the terrain is going to change due to some unexpected, but not surprising, event, like Biden or Trump get sick and can't run, and the next up in line, such as DeSantis vs. Harris, actually give the GOP a chance.

Biden was never an exciting candidate. His appeal is his normality.

Paleocon wrote:

Biden was never an exciting candidate. His appeal is his normality.

The person, sure. I've actually been impressed with the legislation he passed in the first two years. The Dems need to do a much better job of selling that before the election.

JLS wrote:
Paleocon wrote:

Biden was never an exciting candidate. His appeal is his normality.

The person, sure. I've actually been impressed with the legislation he passed in the first two years. The Dems need to do a much better job of selling that before the election.

And that is what normal presidents do.

JLS wrote:
Paleocon wrote:

Biden was never an exciting candidate. His appeal is his normality.

The person, sure. I've actually been impressed with the legislation he passed in the first two years. The Dems need to do a much better job of selling that before the election.

He did do a lot, but bringing that up too much also runs the risk of reminding people how much more he had planned and promised to do, but was prevented from actually achieving by Manchin and Sinema. It's not really his fault, but it's not a great thing to be reminded of.

It is worth noting that the things he did achieve were largely done with bipartisan consent. Which is why GOP presidential candidates have had to work so hard to sell the idea of the "radical BIden agenda". The closest thing to left of mainstream they have managed is student loan forgiveness, which, as it turns out, is popular even among younger Republican voters.

For those that don't follow politics closely, my bet is Biden has a decent play with them of, "Look. I'm not going to bring back Chaos Inc. I'm getting better deals for working folks and despite what some people think, I'm not a socialist. Keep me and we'll keep toughing it out. sh*t be hard. And we'll get through this."

I think that message resonates during a time of deep uncertainty.

Stengah wrote:
JLS wrote:
Paleocon wrote:

Biden was never an exciting candidate. His appeal is his normality.

The person, sure. I've actually been impressed with the legislation he passed in the first two years. The Dems need to do a much better job of selling that before the election.

He did do a lot, but bringing that up too much also runs the risk of reminding people how much more he had planned and promised to do, but was prevented from actually achieving by Manchin and Sinema. It's not really his fault, but it's not a great thing to be reminded of.

Yeah imagine they had passed that bill with all that child care stuff. He could just point to all the money in everyone's pocket and say I did that and 2024 would be a runaway.

I am trying to figure out if the decision for Mark Meadows to testify in his motion to move his case to the federal courts was made in coordination with the Trump defense team. It doesn't feel like it was considering that all of his testimony can now be used as evidence in all of the other cases now. It feels like a panic move and a breaking ranks sort of thing.

I want someone to put Meadows' face on that weasely lawyer in that Jurassic Park clip where he gets chomped by the T Rex.

Not really shocking news but just the wheels of the justice system going on.

Donald Trump pleads not guilty to Georgia election racketeering charges

So Mr indicted bought, or was gifted, a Glock today in S Carolina. It's illegal for anyone under federal indictment to purchase or own a firearm.

So anybody else would be thrown in jail tomorrow. I guess he's going to get away with it even though there's video and his own campaign tweeted it

Yeah, Steven Cheung was lying about that. Or so he now claims.

https://twitter.com/KristenhCNN/stat...

Kristen Holmes wrote:

Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung clarifies to CNN that former President Donald Trump did NOT purchase a firearm at the armory in Summerville, South Carolina, on Monday.

I read that it's the actual *receipt* of the weapon that is important; that is, if someone *hands* it to him, he's liable to be charged for that.

Forgot we had this thread. Seems better to post trump prosecution here

Jack Smith delivers Trump WORST NEWS YET