A place to post and discuss news related to the recent events in Israel, including the Hamas/Islamic Jihad incursion and repercussions.
CBS Sunday morning did a report on how the war is affecting Gaza's children, with an interview with a surgeon who went to help.
It's as bracing as you'd expect.
An Israeli airstrike hits a school sheltering people in Gaza, killing at least 30 including children
DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza Strip (AP) — Israeli airstrikes hit a school used by displaced Palestinians in central Gaza on Saturday, killing at least 30 people including several children, as the country’s negotiators prepared to meet international mediators about a proposed cease-fire.
Seven children and seven women were among the dead taken from the girls’ school in Deir al-Balah to Al Aqsa Hospital. Israel’s military said it targeted a Hamas command center used to direct attacks against Israeli troops and store “large quantities of weapons.” Hamas called the military’s claim false.
Civil defense workers in Gaza said thousands had been sheltering in the school, which also contained a medical site. Associated Press journalists saw a dead toddler in an ambulance and bodies covered with blankets. Shattered walls gaped and classrooms were in ruins. People searched the rubble strewn with pillows and other signs of habitation.
Strike on Israeli Golan Heights kills 11 and threatens to spark a wider war. Hezbollah denies a role
TEL AVIV, Israel (AP) — A rocket strike Saturday at a soccer field killed at least 11 children and teens, Israeli authorities said, in the deadliest strike on an Israeli target along the country’s northern border since the fighting between Israel and the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah began. It raised fears of a broader regional war.
Israel blamed Hezbollah for the strike in the Israeli-controlled Golan Heights, but Hezbollah rushed to deny any role. Israel’s military called it a “very serious” event and said it would act accordingly.
“Hezbollah fired a rocket at children playing soccer in northern Israel. It then lied and claimed they did not carry out the attack,” said the military’s chief spokesman, Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari. He called it the deadliest attack on Israeli civilians since the Hamas attack on Oct. 7 that sparked the war in Gaza. He said 20 others were wounded.
So, according to Pred's last two posts -
Israeli airstrike hits a school sheltering people in Gaza, killing at least 30 including children:
Israel’s military said it targeted a Hamas command center used to direct attacks against Israeli troops and store “large quantities of weapons.”
Strike on Israeli Golan Heights kills 11 and threatens to spark a wider war:
Israel’s military called it a “very serious” event and said it would act accordingly.
I'm almost as shocked as Fry at the double standard.
John Oliver Finally Spent A 'Last Week Tonight' Episode Talking About Israel And Palestine
HBO will release the full episode on Thursday, August 1, but, for now, here's a bit of what Oliver spoke about, highlighting the division of legal rights in the West Bank.
John Oliver Finally Spent A 'Last Week Tonight' Episode Talking About Israel And Palestine
HBO will release the full episode on Thursday, August 1, but, for now, here's a bit of what Oliver spoke about, highlighting the division of legal rights in the West Bank.
"Finally spent an episode" talking about it.
...
They mean besides this one from last November, right?
He calls it a genocide in this one, which matters a lot for some.
White House: Risk of Israel-Hezbollah war is "exaggerated"
The Biden administration thinks the scenario of an all-out war between Israel and Hezbollah is "exaggerated," White House spokesperson John Kirby said in a briefing with reporters on Monday.
Why it matters: The White House knows Israel is going to conduct a significant response against Hezbollah, but is trying to contain the situation as much as possible, U.S. officials said.
Kirby's comment suggests the administration is trying to tone down some of the public rhetoric around the situation on the Israeli-Lebanese border, while it quietly works behind the scenes to prevent a major escalation.
He calls it a genocide in this one, which matters a lot for some.
Would not be surprised in the least if the full episode never sees the light of day.
Prederick wrote:He calls it a genocide in this one, which matters a lot for some.
Would not be surprised in the least if the full episode never sees the light of day.
I mean, it's been up on Max since it aired - it's just the free version of it on Youtube that's not up yet.
Hamas chief Ismail Haniyeh Killed In Iran, Hamas Says
CAIRO, July 31 (Reuters) - Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh was assassinated in the early hours of the morning in Iran, the Palestinian militant group said on Wednesday, drawing fears of wider escalation in a region shaken by Israel's war in Gaza and a worsening conflict in Lebanon.
Iran's Revolutionary Guards confirmed the death of Haniyeh, hours after he attended a swearing in ceremony for the country's new president, and said it was investigating.
There was no immediate comment from Israel. The Israeli military said it was conducting a situational assessment but had not issued any new security guidelines for civilians.
U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Washington would work to try to ease tensions but said the United States would help defend Israel if it were attacked.
The news, which came less than 24 hours after Israel claimed to have killed the Hezbollah commander it said was behind a deadly strike in the Israeli-occupied Golan Heights, appears to set back chances of any imminent ceasefire agreement in Gaza.
"This assassination by the Israeli occupation of Brother Haniyeh is a grave escalation that aims to break the will of Hamas," senior Hamas official Sami Abu Zuhri told Reuters.
He said Hamas, the Palestinian Islamist group that ruled Gaza, would continue the path it was following, adding: "We are confident of victory."
Iran's top security body is expected to meet to decide Iran's strategy in reaction to the death of Haniyeh, a close ally of Tehran, said a source with knowledge of the meeting.
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas condemned the killing of Haniyeh and Palestinian factions in the occupied West Bank called for a general strike and mass demonstrations.
Haniyeh, normally based in Qatar, has been the face of the Palestinian group's international diplomacy as the war set off by the Hamas-led attack on Israel on Oct. 7 has raged in Gaza, where three of his sons were killed in an Israeli airstrike.
The International Criminal Court prosecutor office requested an arrest warrant for him over alleged war crimes at the same time it issued a similar request against Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
Appointed to the Hamas top job in 2017, Haniyeh has moved between Turkey and Qatar's capital Doha, escaping the travel curbs of the blockaded Gaza Strip and enabling him to act as a negotiator in ceasefire talks or to talk to Hamas' ally Iran.
The assassination of Haniyeh comes as Israel's campaign in Gaza approaches the end of its 10th month with no sign of an end to a conflict that has shaken the Middle East and threatened to spiral into a wider regional conflict.
Despite anger at Netanyahu's government from families of the Israeli hostages still held in Gaza and mounting international pressure for a ceasefire, talks brokered by Egypt and Qatar appear to have faltered.
At the same time, the risk of a war between Israel and Hezbollah has grown following the strike in the Golan Heights that killed 12 children in a Druze village on Saturday and the subsequent killing of the senior Hezbollah commander Fuad Shukr.
The war started on Oct. 7 when Hamas-led fighters broke through security barriers around Gaza and launched a devastating attack on Israeli communities nearby, killing 1,200 people and abducting some 250 hostages into Gaza.
In response, Israel launched a relentless ground and air offensive in the densely populated coastal enclave that has killed more than 39,000 people and left more than 2 million facing a severe humanitarian crisis.
Rat Boy wrote:Prederick wrote:He calls it a genocide in this one, which matters a lot for some.
Would not be surprised in the least if the full episode never sees the light of day.
I mean, it's been up on Max since it aired - it's just the free version of it on Youtube that's not up yet.
It is now.
BEIRUT (AP) — Hamas on Tuesday named Yahya Sinwar, its top official in Gaza who masterminded the Oct. 7 attacks in Israel, as its new leader in a dramatic sign of the power of the Palestinian militant group’s hardline wing after his predecessor was killed in a presumed Israeli strike in Iran.
Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said “it may be just and moral” to starve 2 million Gaza residents until Israeli hostages are returned, but “no one in the world would let us.”
I'm just waiting for them to suggest that chambers and ovens aren't so bad....
BEIRUT (AP) — Hamas on Tuesday named Yahya Sinwar, its top official in Gaza who masterminded the Oct. 7 attacks in Israel, as its new leader in a dramatic sign of the power of the Palestinian militant group’s hardline wing after his predecessor was killed in a presumed Israeli strike in Iran.
I would not be surprised if part of the motivation for Israel to assassinate the former leader of Hamas was specifically with the expectation that they would replace the guy who was at least entertaining the idea of a ceasefire with a hardline piece of shit like Sinwar who they can scapegoat for ongoing hostilities and eventual annexation.
This could go in the regular politics thread, but I think it bears mentioning that AIPAC ousted Cori Bush in the Dem primary last night.
A prominent member of the progressive “Squad” in Congress, Cori Bush, has lost her Democratic primary in St Louis after pro-Israel pressure groups spent millions of dollars to unseat her over criticisms of Israel’s war on Gaza.
St Louis prosecutor Wesley Bell defeated Missouri’s first Black female member of Congress with about 51% of the vote. Bush took about 46%.
Bell’s win marks a second major victory for the powerful American Israel Public Affairs Committee (Aipac) after it played a leading role in unseating New York congressman Jamaal Bowman, another progressive Democrat who criticised the scale of Palestinian civilians deaths in Gaza, in a June primary.
Aipac pumped $8.5m into the race in Missouri’s first congressional district to support Bell through its campaign funding arm, the United Democracy Project (UDP), after Bush angered some pro-Israel groups as one of the first members of Congress to call for a ceasefire after the 7 October Hamas attack on Israel.
Much of the UDP’s money comes from billionaires who fund hardline pro-Israel causes and Republicans in other races, including some who have given to Donald Trump’s campaign.
Bush condemned Hamas for the killing of 1,139 people, mostly Israelis, and for abducting hundreds of others in October. But she also infuriated some Jewish and pro-Israel groups by describing Israel’s subsequent attack on Gaza and large scale killing of civilians as “collective punishment against Palestinians” and a war crime.
During the campaign, the UDP flooded St Louis with advertising hostile to Bush – although, as in other congressional races targeted by pro-Israel groups, it rarely mentioned the war on Gaza that has claimed nearly 40,000 Palestinian lives, mostly civilians, or her call for a ceasefire.
Instead, the campaign focused on Bush’s voting record in Congress, particularly her failure to support Joe Biden’s trillion-dollar infrastructure bill in 2021 and her support for the “defund the police” campaign. Bush struggled to get her message across that the UDP is misrepresenting both situations.
The UDP accounted for more than half of all the money spent on the race outside the campaigns themselves.
Bell has denied being recruited by pro-Israel groups to run against Bush, but suspicion lingered after he abandoned a challenge for the US Senate and entered the congressional race not long after Jewish organisations in St Louis began to seek a candidate to take on Bush after accusing her of “intentionally fuelling antisemitism”.
Bell is expected to win what is one of the safest Democratic congressional seats in November’s general election.
I do not envy Harris for having to perform the balancing act of not being so pro-Israel that she re-alienates all the people who she got excited to vote again, and being so pro-Gaza that AIPAC decides they'd rather have Trump than her and spends all their money attacking her.
I guarantee the second the Harris-Walz ticket has to take a position all those good feelings from the past couple of weeks are going to fly right out the window. Biden's position is what was really the beginning of the end of his administration and somebody's probably already figuring out a war crime that rhyme's with Harris' first name.
This could go in the regular politics thread, but I think it bears mentioning that AIPAC ousted Cori Bush in the Dem primary last night.
EDIT: Cori Bush in her concession speech said, "AIPAC, I'm coming to tear your kingdom down."
Yiy. Speech roll critical fail.
I guarantee the second the Harris-Walz ticket has to take a position all those good feelings from the past couple of weeks are going to fly right out the window. Biden's position is what was really the beginning of the end of his administration and somebody's probably already figuring out a war crime that rhyme's with Harris' first name.
Posted at 11:15 AM, Wednesday morning.
They do have to figure out a message on Gaza, and fast. When campuses reopen, this is not going away.
I suspect she’ll try to dodge this as long as she can, she’s stuck between pissing off potential voters and having the genocide lobby mobilize against her like they’ve been doing against progressive candidates in the primaries.
Israeli Army Uses Palestinian Civilians to Inspect Potentially Booby-trapped Tunnels in Gaza (Haaretz)
At first it's hard to recognize them. They're usually wearing Israeli army uniforms, many of them are in their 20s, and they're always with Israeli soldiers of various ranks.
But if you look more closely, you see that most of them are wearing sneakers, not army boots. And their hands are cuffed behind their backs and their faces are full of fear. The soldiers call each of them a shawish, an obscure Arabic word of Turkish origin meaning sergeant.
Random Palestinians have been used by Israeli army units in the Gaza Strip for one purpose: to serve as human shields for soldiers during operations. "Our lives are more important than their lives," soldiers were told.
That's a war crime.
You're both right but we know nothing will come of it because Israel can do whatever it wants and we will let it and sadly we are the world's only superpower and the only ones that could say "no"
US: "Who taught you how to do this stuff?!"
Israel: "You, alright! I learned it by watching you!"
Looked in "Amazed/Excited/Nailed it" album on IMGUR
And thought this one was a good reaction to your comment.
DNC is next week.
Let's see how it goes. I expect this to come up several times.
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