MLB 2023 Season - The Winter Stove of Warmth

The Rays have lost their shortstop for the worst reason

The O's are underdogs for all three games in the Padres series.

The O's are 74-45 and 38-22 away. We lead the conference

The Padres are 56-63 and 30-29 at home. They are also 13 games back from their division lead.

Do I just suck at baseball analysis or does this smell like fish to you?

I'm guessing the betting lines (assuming that's where the 'underdog' designation is coming from) is looking beyond actual records. Their pythagorean records are basically the same, which implies a lot of bad luck on the SD side, and an equal amount of good luck on the BAL side.

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Mrs. Met? Miss Met? Ms. Met... is really giving off a Lois Griffin vibe.

billt721 wrote:

I'm guessing the betting lines (assuming that's where the 'underdog' designation is coming from) is looking beyond actual records. Their pythagorean records are basically the same, which implies a lot of bad luck on the SD side, and an equal amount of good luck on the BAL side.

Padres took 2 of 3.

Julio Rodriguez had himself quite a week.

Edit: since his last hitless game, he's 15 for 28 and currently 2 for 2 against one of Houston's better pitchers, with one home run.

Edit 2: 4 for 5 with the 5th reaching on an error. Three games in a row with at least 4 hits. Has anyone done that before?

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Aaaaand another leadoff hit

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Chairman_Mao wrote:

Aaaaand another leadoff hit

Edit:omfg

In the MLB article about his 17 hits in 4 games, my favorite part was another esoteric record he set: most hits in a 4-game span with 5+ stolen bases. The previous holders were Ty Cobb (1907), Ty Cobb (1927), and Bake McBride (1974)

Bake McBride

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Hrdina wrote:
Chairman_Mao wrote:

Aaaaand another leadoff hit

Edit:omfg

In the MLB article about his 17 hits in 4 games, my favorite part was another esoteric record he set: most hits in a 4-game span with 5+ stolen bases. The previous holders were Ty Cobb (1907), Ty Cobb (1927), and Bake McBride (1974)

Bake McBride

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ahh Bake, aka Shake and Bake, aka The Baker. Who I see was also a rookie of the year.

Another lead off hit and run...

Edit:back to earth today, but Mariners sweep and own the tie breaker!

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Literally, the longest Yankees losing streak of my lifetime, and I was born in '83.

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The last time the Yankees lost nine straight games (1982), no one on the current Yankees roster was alive

Meanwhile, in Halos land...

There is a palpable sense of urgency that surrounds the Angels this year, perhaps unlike any other before it. As if time is running out. As if what's next is too unnerving to confront. As if an ominous tipping point has been reached.

It's hard not to consider Arte Moreno's place in all of it. The latter half of his two-decade-plus reign as the Angels' owner has been marked by impulsive decisions that, when coupled with bad drafts and poor acquisitions by his general managers, compromised sustainability and helped squander the prime years of two of baseball's defining figures, according to more than a dozen people employed by him in various capacities during that stretch. His competitiveness has been admired, but many believe it has also hindered. And his actions over the past 12 months -- a period in which he invested in the present more heavily than ever before, all while entertaining the sale of his franchise and the potential trade of its most valuable asset -- have only raised the stakes.

In hopes of capitalizing on what could be their final season with Shohei Ohtani, and persuading him to stay in the process, Moreno's Angels put everything they have into 2023. They vaulted their payroll to new heights, promoted their best prospects aggressively, shed what little they had from a thin farm system in order to augment an ailing roster -- and then they watched it unravel too quickly.

The decision not to trade Ohtani before the Aug. 1 deadline has been followed by 13 losses in a stretch of 18 games, including a seven-game losing streak, dropping the Angels' playoff odds below 1%. Barring a late-season resurgence that would go down as one of the greatest in at least half a century, the Angels -- now 61-64 and nine games out of the final wild-card spot -- are poised for their 13th playoff absence in 14 years, an unfathomable predicament considering the transcendent talents they've employed in that stretch.

In the words of one longtime staffer: "It's been a decade of disaster."

The latter half of his two-decade-plus reign as the Angels' owner has been marked by impulsive decisions that, when coupled with bad drafts and poor acquisitions by his general managers

Given that Jerry Dipoto has been able to -- after a short rebuild period -- build a solid farm system and competitive team in Seattle without the superstar talent or financial flexibility available in Anaheim, I'm willing to lay 100% of the blame on Moreno.

They're in for a long rebuild given that they pretty much emptied an already thin farm system to try to win this year. They'll get a draft pick for Ohtani unless for some reason they refuse to make him a qualifying offer. It'd probably be smart at this point to see what they could get for Trout. He's owed $37m per year through 2030, and has had some injury problems the last several years, but he's still great when he's on the field so probably has at least some value.

Peter Bourjos -- the last person to man CF for Anaheim full-time before Trout. I thought he was gonna be a defense-first star after racking up 4.9 bWAR (4.3 fWAR) in 2011. But it turns out that was more than half his career value and he was never again worth more than 1.4WAR in a given season and spent most of his remaining years < 1.0.

Sidenote billt, I know Hawai'i is very obviously not Maui, but I hope you and yours are okay nevertheless.

EDIT: Also, Luis Polonia, Wally Joyner and Mark Gubicza.

Super glad my O's didn't trade for Ohtani

Man, what a total downer. I was still holding out hope for the possibility of seeing a player win Cy Young and MVP in the same season (the MVP was probable, the Cy Young was pretty unlikely).

Also, the Angels are just totally dead now. Honestly, shut him down for the rest of the year for his own good.

Passan: Ohtani's magic season cut short by injury

Every minute of the past three years Shohei Ohtani spent on the baseball field was a gift. The most perfect ball-playing specimen ever to wear a uniform, simultaneously one of the best hitters and pitchers in a sport that for a century had demanded players choose one track or the other, Ohtani recalibrated what the game could be. He was baseball at its zenith. He is baseball, period.

What everyone took for granted, as he launched majestic home runs and unfurled unfair pitches, was the Faustian bargain underpinning it all -- that as Ohtani trafficked in the impossible, he was relying on a wholly imperfect vessel to deliver it. Ohtani's most formidable opponent was never the pitchers or hitters he faced. It was his body and its capacity to withstand everything he asked of it. Ligaments do not care about legend.

Ohtani being Ohtani, he reacted to the news that he had suffered a tear in the ulnar collateral ligament of his right elbow in Game 1 of a doubleheader Wednesday by batting second for his Los Angeles Angels in Game 2. Ohtani will not pitch again this season. He might need another Tommy John surgery. His already-complicated free agency, just two months away, is now even more confusing. And Ohtani knew all of it in the second game, which, in hindsight, makes a moment that looked so wholesome at the time so heartbreaking now.

In the fifth inning, Ohtani doubled -- you can still swing the bat with a UCL tear -- and awaiting him at second base stood Cincinnati shortstop Elly De La Cruz, a 6-foot-5, switch-hitting, homer-crushing, 21-year-old rookie wunderkind who also happens to be the fastest man in baseball. A full-blown unicorn. And even to him Ohtani is something different altogether. To introduce himself, De La Cruz extended his right index finger and poked 29-year-old Ohtani on the arm five times, chuckling, as if to say: Are you even real?

It's the sort of question anyone who watched Ohtani asked constantly. And Wednesday's lesson was that he's all too real -- not a baseball automaton sent from the future to transfix but flesh and blood. Like any ballplayer, always one pitch, one swing, one stride away from a muscle or tendon or bone or ligament failing. Ohtani took on more than any other player: starting for the Angels once a week and serving as their designated hitter nightly. The job and its level of stress chipped away, little by little. And even then, Ohtani never accepted training at a reduced rate to give himself a break. Why would he? The work got him to this place.

MLB: The Show update:

As stated, if you're not interested in all the online stuff (like me), the game can be tweaked into becoming a perfectly acceptable Dinger Masher 2023 game.

That said, playing OOTP alongside it really, really underlines how not-seriously they're taking Franchise mode now. Like, the only advanced stat that appears to be tracked in the game is WAR, which... dudes, c'mon.

Even by the game's own metrics, it should be able to track stuff like Barrel %, Hard Hit %, Exit velos, longest HRs, all the other fun stuff. A large part of the fun of baseball is the stats. Discussing how Jose Rijo finished with a Wins Above Average of 7 in 1990 and still ended up going 14-9.

(My memory of Jose Rijo is so warped, I thought he was a 300 IP workhorse, dude threw 200+ exactly 3 times.)

Honestly, if it meant a better, deeper experience, I'm perfectly happy to pay $40-$50 for a Franchise-only experience. I have no interest in Diamond Dynasty.

In frankly impressive news, the Oakland A's were only today eliminated from playoff contention.

Prederick wrote:

Sidenote billt, I know Hawai'i is very obviously not Maui, but I hope you and yours are okay nevertheless.

Thanks. Yeah, luckily, the side of the Big Island I'm on had no issues. Barely even any wind, which is surprising given how much Maui got. And the few people I know who live on Maui are all fine, which is kinda amazing given what parts of the island look like now.

Prederick wrote:

In frankly impressive news, the Oakland A's were only today eliminated from playoff contention.

Especially since the winner of the West is pretty likely to get one of the first-round byes. It's not like they're playing in the Central.

Edit: Felix Hernandez, who was the first big-time prospect I really followed, since he was coming up right when baseball blogs were starting to pop up. Went to his first home game (Twins? Something like 12ks). His 2010 (7.2 bWAR, 13-12 record because the Mariners were trash) is a perfect example of how on a better team, he probably has a chance to stick around on the HoF ballot for a few years, but he was stuck on the Mariners, and just 169 wins means he'll be a one-and-done guy.

Sure, he won't make the HoF, but he's a King for life in Seattle, and that's something, at least.

Prederick wrote:

Sure, he won't make the HoF, but he's a King for life in Seattle, and that's something, at least.

And he's in the Mariners HoF, which is much more exclusive anyway!

Well crap

Paleocon wrote:

Well crap

got the dub tho

Mariners kinda fun right now!

Also Detroit's win over Houston yesterday was *chefskiss*

Chairman_Mao wrote:

Mariners kinda fun right now!

I started my second MLB 23 franchise with them purely for the win celebration animations.

I was at Camden last night to watch my O’s hand the Rockies their fifth loss in a row after carrying a sixth inning lead. Not a great time to be a Colorado fan. Rays, Orioles, Braves, Jays. The top three teams and four of the top ten teams in baseball in a row.

Julio has clearly cooled off, going from supernova to merely nova.