NFL 2022: The Week 14 thread

Enix wrote:

ManningCast is brutal tonight. Bill Simmons is a guest, and Peyton made him watch the David Tyree helmet catch. :lol:

The back and forth on that one was good. So many holds!

Unfortunately, game is also brutal to watch as usual for the Pats this year.

Simmons telling stories about Larry Bird was fantastic.

Kyler's knee will get an MRI tomorrow, but ESPN reports from a source that there's "little doubt" that the ACL is torn.

Kyler will finish the season with his numbers having dropped across the board after signing that big contract. His yards per attempt went from 7.9 last year down to a league-worst 6.1 (well, tied for league worst with Littlehands). His 3.6% TD percentage was 22nd, his 235.9 yards per game was 23rd. His INT % dropped down, the one metric that improved, but that probably coincides with a low-risk dink-and-dunk passing approach - his 6.7 average air yards per attempt ranks 34th (tied), beating only Danny Dimes, Herbert, Matty Ice, and teammate Colt McCoy, and tying with Stafford and Baker.

And the fact that Herbert is so low is further indictment of the Joe Lombardi offense in Not San Diego.

You think Kyler's injury is bad? Big red broke his ankle. But don't worry, there was a backup for the rest of the game.

Stele wrote:

Gotta wonder if Nebraska is rethinking hiring him, seeing what happens after he leaves a team?

Maybe they only hired him so they can fire him early next season to get that Carolina bump.

fivethirtyeight has given this week's upcoming match of Arizona in Denver the lowest possible quality and relevance scores of the year.

quality: 1
importance: 1
overall: 1

If you are in that viewing market, I imaging it would be a bit like watching a fishing show set in a swimming pool.

Cowboys/Jags got an 80 for team quality, the 2nd highest quality grade of the week.

The Jags are a real football team again!

Bills signed Cole Beasley out of retirement.

Stele wrote:

Bills signed Cole Beasley out of retirement.

First, eww.

Second, another adjustment to make to the OBJ Power Rankings...

What's the count on teams pretty screwed by QB's on massive deals and or picks given up with suspect futures?

Quick non scientific list for me is:
Browns
Cardinals
Broncos
Packers
Rams?

jowner wrote:

What's the count on teams pretty screwed by QB's on massive deals and or picks given up with suspect futures?

Quick non scientific list for me is:

Browns

As much as I dislike Watson and hope he crashes and burns, I'm not yet convinced Watson is going to be a poor performer long-term just from a couple of rusty games. They ARE stuck with him, but I'm not yet convinced that's a problem for them yet, in on-field terms.

Cardinals

Kyler felt like an iffy signing back when it happened, even before this down year and now the fresh ACL tear. He was a perfect candidate for the franchise tag, to make him prove it a bit more. They made a major mistake by not doing that. But at least Kyler is 25 and there's room for growth. Which brings us to...

Broncos

This move was an unmitigated disaster. He's 34, he's gone into the tank, and the Broncos are probably stuck until 2026. It's hard to see a good path forward. They need a major bounce-back from Russ, but there seems to be little chance he bounces back enough to not make the deal be an albatross around the Broncos' neck.

Packers

We've already talked about this one plenty.

Rams?

You can remove the question mark. The Rams are basically stuck with Stafford until 2025. They can't afford to cut him before the 2023 season, but in not doing so, he's going to be on the roster and trigger further guarantees. They would take a $55m additional cap hit by releasing Stafford before the 2023 league year starts, but if they don't, it triggers his $31m of 2024 salary guaranteeing. And if he's still on the roster when the 2024 league year starts, then $10m of 2025 salary guarantees.

So even though they've snapped up Baker and could conceivably play with him at QB throughout a rebuild, they're so stuck paying Stafford that they can't just move on, unless Stafford ups and retires.

Anyway, you've pretty much got the entire list. The other teams that are tied to long-term QB contracts they couldn't reasonably get out of are the Chiefs and Bills, and they're happy with their QBs. Dallas is also "stuck" with Dak for at least another year, but they're satisfied with him too.

Of the QBs not yet mentioned, Derek Carr is the biggest deal, but there's almost no guaranteed money left on it, so the Raiders can get out whenever they want. Kirk Cousins is the next biggest not yet named, and moving on from him would incur an extra $12.5m hit, which the Vikings probably won't do but they could if they really wanted out. And then next is Jared Goff, who will reach the point next offseason where Detroit could safely dump him, but the way he's playing, they might not be in a hurry to do so anymore.

No way is Stafford going to just retire without getting his pizza pizza.

*Legion* wrote:

Deebo Samuel suffered both an MCL sprain and an ankle sprain, but they must both be relatively mild, as the team says they expect him to return during the regular season.

The team now has a more explicit timeline: 3 weeks.

So we can probably expect Deebo to return for a week 18 tune-up game against Arizona, before the team goes into the playoffs.

Man, after seeing the injury and seeing Deebo broken down in tears while sitting on the cart, I couldn't have imagined that he would be able to return after 3 weeks. He managed to dodge a bullet with both the knee hyperextension AND ankle twist.

Paleocon wrote:

No way is Stafford going to just retire without getting his pizza pizza.

Agreed. In terms of cash, he's only going to pocket $8m next year, but he'll trigger that $31m of additional guarantees for 2024, along with the $6.5m 2024 option bonus.

No way is he walking away before collecting that payday.

Mike Tanier had a good article on the Rams this past week and how they need to deal with their cap: Stafford, Donald, Kupp: Bang, Marry, or Dump?

His plan involves releasing Stafford prior to the 2025 season, getting rid of Jalen Ramsey immediately, and getting rid of Aaron Donald (who very nearly retired this offseason) as soon as possible.

and getting rid of Aaron Donald (who very nearly retired this offseason) as soon as possible.

To an AFC team, please!

Minase wrote:
and getting rid of Aaron Donald (who very nearly retired this offseason) as soon as possible.

To an AFC team, please!

I think when he leaves LA, it will be to retire.

He actually submitted a retirement letter to the Rams this offseason, and while it was a little bit of contract gamesmanship, I think Donald is going to be ready to walk away sooner than later.

Mariota gets benched, leaves Falcons. Listen, I know you wanted to be a star and a starter, but, at this point, maybe realize your ceiling is beloved long-term journeyman backup? There's a good living in being Josh McCown, Chase Daniel, or Blaine Gabbert these days, and "walks away from team because they want to see what they have in the rookie" is not likely to keep Mariota on a lot of rosters in the future.

What I found interesting is that, in the news yesterday, the Falcons said that Mariota was going on IR with a knee injury... but then this part:

Smith told reporters that the Falcons "anticipate" placing the former No. 2 overall pick on injured reserve due to a chronic knee injury, per the Falcons' official website. Smith said the decision to bench Mariota was made before there was any discussion about his injury or injured reserve. Specifically, Smith said this QB change was a "performance-based" decision.

They could have let Mariota save some face by just sticking him on IR and not saying anything else. What was the point of announcing, "oh we already decided to bench his ass even before we knew his knee was too jacked up to keep playing"?

I bet that's part of what Mariota is pissed about. Sure, if you're benching him and there's no other way to spin it, then bench him. But if he's hurt at the same time, why go out of your way to announce it as a benching, when you can just say he's hurt and send him to IR?

There's only 4 games left, so going on IR now is a season-ender (assuming the Falcons don't win the NFC South dumpster fire battle). And everyone knew this was likely only a 1-year marriage (Mariota's cap number jumps from $4.25m up to $14.5m in year 2 of his 2-year contract), so him going to IR at this point was probably the end of his run in Atlanta either way.

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All the best QBs go #1 overall...

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*Legion* wrote:

All the best QBs go #1 overall...

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The process of selling the Commanders is taking the next step, with Bank of America preparing and distributing a "confidential" prospectus to interested potential buyers.

Please, oh please football gods, let the prospectus be leaked.

And apparently, the idea of the Snyders merely selling off part of their stake has fallen by the wayside:

The Post also reports, citing four unnamed sources, that a full sale of the team is expected.
Rat Boy wrote:

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ain't that purdy

Brady doesn't look gaunt enough in that comic. Dude looks emaciated at the podium.

Top_Shelf wrote:

Brady doesn't look gaunt enough in that comic. Dude looks emaciated at the podium.

True, but with super botoxed cheek bones & forehead! But the comic also wasn't very funny unless it's based on some event I haven't heard about?

I would expect that to go just as poorly as making DPI reviewable.