NFL 2022: The Week 12 thread

Stele wrote:

Niners win, all the rest of the NFC West lose. Good day.

Niners win, Jaguars win, Fresno State wins.

I never get these weekends.

Usually it's Jacksonville's fault.

Kyler on the INT he threw in the 2nd quarter: "Schematically, we were kinda f**ked"

I love that his jacket has a big fat "L" on it. The jokes write themselves.

Jordan Love time!

EDIT: 3 attempts, 3 completions, 75 yards, 1 TD on his first possession. BEGIN THE LOVE ERA!

jowner wrote:
Pink Stripes wrote:

And if the Packers suck a little less, we could get another good one tonight.

Please no!

They need to end it!

Well, it was a fun enough game but the Eagles still won and QAaron's season may be over, so... best of both worlds?

*Legion* wrote:

Jordan Love time!

EDIT: 3 attempts, 3 completions, 75 yards, 1 TD on his first possession. BEGIN THE LOVE ERA!

Mike White went 22-of-28 for 315 yards, 3 TDs, and 0 turnovers.

Zach is so done.

LOL to this broadcast stat:
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Based on the matchup, I'd go with this theme song instead:

The Broncos are so bad that they should be relegated to the NFC South.

*Legion* wrote:

With all the criticism and failures of Zach Wilson, I'd just like to point out how Trevor Lawrence has silently been crawling his way up the QB ladder.

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Meanwhile, Baltimore is taking that game somewhat less well...

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The tweet has since been deleted.

If you're a pro athlete stay off the social medias!

With all the criticism and failures of Zach Wilson

Is it wrong I kept reading that as circumcision?

fangblackbone wrote:
With all the criticism and failures of Zach Wilson

Is it wrong I kept reading that as circumcision?

something something ask his mom's friends...

I hope the theme of the next post is "Sam Darnold is better than Russell Wilson", and how much cooler that would have sounded back in August.

*Legion* wrote:

I hope the theme of the next post is "Sam Darnold is better than Russell Wilson", and how much cooler that would have sounded back in August.

Update on the OP: Chocolate and Chip have crossed the Rainbow Bridge sponsored by Butterball and now live in the Great Farmyard in the Sky. They refused to live in a world where HEY DARNOLD is the starting QB for the Panthers.

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WTH is up with Russell Wilson?

fangblackbone wrote:

WTH is up with Russell Wilson?

Wilson's arrow was pointing downward last year, but nobody was ready to acknowledge it.

Well, Pete Carroll and John Schneider sorta did, but that was more like a broken clock situation. Wilson declined to the point where he caught up with their lowball evaluation.

Wilson's numbers in 2021 kinda masked the decline a bit. The numbers were still efficient, but Wilson went from bailing out the stodgy run-first offense to being carried by it.

What's changed? His mobility has taken a nosedive, which has made his playmaking ability take a nosedive. And what's left when Wilson's off-script playmaking ability is gone? A QB too short to throw over the middle from the pocket, and now too slow to move around and do anything about it.

That said, there's probably enough tools still there to build an offense around, but Wilson has always been resistant to being a system QB. As Brett Kollmann put it, whatever offensive scheme Wilson is put in gets morphed into "the Russell Wilson offense", regardless of what the scheme actually wants to do. Could he be a Jimmy Garoppolo, except one whose throws are all to the outside instead of all to the middle like Jimmy? Probably. Does he have the discipline and humility to be that guy? Haven't seen any evidence of it.

He's not that old though right? What happened to his mobility? Injuries?

I guess it might be a case of don't mess with success. The flaws were overlooked when he was winning...
I also didn't realize he was 33.

462 sacks in 11 seasons has to add up bit by bit, so, even if they're not official injuries, that chip damage wears you down eventually.

One of his issues is not just that he's playing badly, it's that he's such an insufferable, unlikable douchebag while doing it. Matt Ryan has fallen off a cliff, but his teammates like him and nobody is yelling at him when things go wrong. It seems like most of the Broncos organization wants to throw Wilson off a mountain at this point, and I don't know how he manages to get the team on his side again.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

462 sacks in 11 seasons has to add up bit by bit, so, even if they're not official injuries, that chip damage wears you down eventually.

One of his issues is not just that he's playing badly, it's that he's such an insufferable, unlikable douchebag while doing it. Matt Ryan has fallen off a cliff, but his teammates like him and nobody is yelling at him when things go wrong. It seems like most of the Broncos organization wants to throw Wilson off a mountain at this point, and I don't know how he manages to get the team on his side again.

He tried doing burpees on the plane and it did nothing. Russ is out of ideas.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

462 sacks in 11 seasons has to add up bit by bit, so, even if they're not official injuries, that chip damage wears you down eventually.

Especially when you're 5'11" and you're surviving by packing extra weight onto your smaller frame. He weighted 204 at his Combine. He's been officially listed at 215 lbs for a while now. His weight has fluctuated all the way up to 225 lbs, as the Seahawks wanted him to put on weight to better handle the beating. But his speed suffered and he was melted back down closer to 210. Not sure what his weight is right now, but it's always been a back-and-forth battle between losing weight to stay fast, and gaining weight to take hits.

*Legion* wrote:

Niners RB Elijah Mitchell, who just returned from injury, is suspected to have sprained his MCL.

Just in case the Christian McCaffrey trade needed any more help looking like a wise move.

Mitchell's injury will keep him out for 6-8 weeks, because the 49ers aren't allowed to win games without a blood sacrifice.

Fortunately, 3rd round rookie Tyrion Davis-Price is healthy now and will step in there.

Cam Newton is a much bigger guy and was physically done well before the age of 33. Guys like Josh Allen and Lamar should be taking a look at that and paying attention when their coaches ask them to just slide.

Top_Shelf wrote:

If you're a pro athlete stay off the social medias!

Speaking of Lamar, John Harbaugh definitely agrees with you.

Pink Stripes wrote:

Guys like Josh Allen and Lamar should be taking a look at that and paying attention when their coaches ask them to just slide.

Two more data points:

- Justin Fields is missing games with a separated shoulder

- Trey Lance is missing the whole season because his ankle ended up sideways

A Seahawks player came out of the bench after Quandre Diggs' INT. Look at #52 at the bottom of the screen, right after Diggs makes the INT. Nobody seemed to notice.

Pink Stripes wrote:

A Seahawks player came out of the bench after Quandre Diggs' INT. Look at #52 at the bottom of the screen, right after Diggs makes the INT. Nobody seemed to notice.

That's pretty hilarious. I'm surprised Pete hasn't done that yet!

Curious if they caught that what the penalty is? INT Still count? Assuming it did, where would the penalty be assessed? Where the play ended? What if that guy threw a block that lead to a SEA touchdown?

Also, wouldn't it be cooler if that player had a trombone?

(can't post in the NFL thread without some Cal reference.. that was the best I could come up with)

I would think the foul would be after the INT. I'm not sure exactly what it would be called. There's an illegal substitution rule:

If a substitute enters the field of play or the end zone while the ball is in play, it is an illegal substitution. If an illegal substitute interferes with the play, it may be a palpably unfair act

And also an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for using subs to confuse the opponent:

Using entering substitutes, legally returning players, substitutes on sidelines, or withdrawn players to confuse opponents, including lingering by players leaving the field after being replaced by a substitute.

Man, Matt Ryan runs like I do.

Not a complement, BTW.