NFL 2022: The Week 8 thread

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How my week has gone so far:

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I'm not sure if I'm the guy with the ball or the guy with the handful of shirt. Either way, it has been a slog. Sort of like the Patriots offense HEYYYY-YOOOOOOOHHH

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On with the show.

STAT OF THE WEEK

From Monday's The Athletic Football Show podcast:

Since Patrick Mahomes has been the Chiefs' QB, KC has fallen behind by 10 or more points 18 times (in both the regular season and the playoffs). Their record in those games (including Sunday's W over the Niners: 10-8. A winning record, in other words.

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The second-best record over that stretch? The Eagles, who are 8-18.

STAT OF THE WEEK PART 2

This week's PFF QB grades:

1. XFL / Temple legend P.J. Walker, 94.9
2. Heisman Trophy winner Joe Burrow, 91.8
3. Future Hall of Famer Patrick Mahomes, 83.3

Panthers are playoff bound, baby!

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POWER RANKINGS

(From PFF this week)

Top five: Bills, Chiefs, Eagles, Cowboys, Niners.

Biggest gainer: Seahawks (up 7 spots to 21st)

Biggest loser: Bucs (down 6 spots to 10th)

If you click through, PFF has a chart that shows the effect of injuries for each team. The most injured teams, according to its metric: Saints, Niners, Commanders, Broncos, Steelers. Ouch.

CURRENT NFL TIERS

As seen on Twitter (here)

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Seems about right. Right?

IF THE PLAYOFFS STARTED TODAY

Your current NFL playoff picture:

The top 7 seeds in the AFC: Bills, Chiefs, Titans, Ravens, Jets, Dolphins and Chargers

In the NFC: Eagles, Vikings, Seahawks, Bucs, Giants, Cowboys and Rams

Wait, the Seahawks?!

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Yep, the Seahawks. Bengals, Patriots, Niners and Packers are among the teams on the outside looking in at the moment. No one has been eliminated, not even the Panthers, Texans or Lions.

SPEAKING OF THE PACKERS

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Ooof. There seems to be no shortage of Aaron Rodgers-lying-face-down GIFs this season.

TOM BRADY REGRET INDEX

Football Outsiders this week introduced a new feature: The Tom Brady Regret Index!

"... the Tom Brady Regret Index (TBRI) is designed to quantify just how bad Brady's un-retirement decision has been. Brady can use this index, designed by a qualified football analytics expert (or at least the longtime associate/confidante/wingman of one), for some incisive self-evaluation.

"The TBRI starts with the assumption that being married to a billionaire supermodel and living the cushy life of a homemaker/television personality is worth 1,000 "Brady Bucks." So Brady starts the calculations at negative-1,000 because of what he left on the table. In order to make his decision to return to football worthwhile, he must now climb out of that hole. When Brady is in the positive, his choice was at least arguably worthwhile. While in the negative, Brady will be coping with some degree of regret."

After Sunday's loss in Charlotte, the TBRI now sits at -3,050, "which equates to one country music album's worth of regret."

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I predict that number will continue to fall now that the refs are finally allowing dudes (like Brian Burns, above) to sack Brady. Here's a highlight if you want to see the work of a guy who's worth more than two first-round picks.

IN ALL FAIRNESS

ESPN dropped this deep-dive today on the Panthers' fruitless and ham-fisted search for a QB.

"They shot for the stars," a veteran NFL coach and former Rhule staffer said. "They ended up with Teddy [Bridgewater], Sam [Darnold] and Baker."

ZING!

It's brutal. Apparently there was a faction inside Panthers' HQ pushing hard for Justin Herbert but Carolina (it's unclear exactly who but you could probably guess) was fixated on Teddy B. The story dishes on the pursuit of Stafford (almost done till the Rams swooped in at the last minute), Watson (who was put off by the coaching hot seat), Jimmy G (Panthers never had serious talks with him), Darnold (it was 100% the idea of the dumbass former HC) and others.

If you don't have ESPN+ and still want to read it, let me know, and I'll spoiler-post it below.

WEEK 8 SCHEDULE

Not a great week (lots of who-cares or potentially lopsided games), but note that there's a Sunday morning game and a ManningCast. It's a quarter-zip kind of week, in other words.

Thursday: Ravens-Bucs (Prime)

Sunday morning: Broncos-Jags (ESPN+)

Sunday early: Panthers-Falcons, Bears-Cowboys, Dolphins-Lions, Cardinals-Vikings, Raiders-Saints, Patriots-Jets, Steelers-Eagles

Sunday late: Titans-Texans, Commanders-Colts, Niners-Rams (national GOTW, sorta), Giants-Seahawks (which might be a sneaky good game)

Sunday night: Packers-Bills (NBC)

Monday: Bengals-Browns (ESPN, plus ManningCast)

Byes: Chiefs and Chargers

Coverage maps are in their usual spot.

BEFORE WE GO

A work of art:

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Enix wrote:

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A friend of mine predicted that Brady will quit before the end of the season. I hadn't really even considered it, but considering what I have seen in his recent interviews, I no longer think it is quite as crazy as I once might have.

Is Commies-Colts the "why the f*** did we trade for this guy" Bowl?

Pretty wild that Seahawks v Giants is the only game this week between two teams with a winning record.

Hey, now, Tom Brady doesn't hate his family. His family hates him. He's the complete opposite of Aaron Rodgers.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Hey, now, Tom Brady doesn't hate his family. His family hates him. He's the complete opposite of Aaron Rodgers.

They should trade families.

Someone start the Gisele Rodgers rumors. Maybe that's what Brady's secret mojo was.

Paleocon wrote:

A friend of mine predicted that Brady will quit before the end of the season. I hadn't really even considered it, but considering what I have seen in his recent interviews, I no longer think it is quite as crazy as I once might have.

Bucs play in Germany this year vs Seahawks in 3 weeks. Depending on how things are going after Ravens + Rams games maybe Brady just says he can't find his passport.

Actually excited about Thursday night game. Although this season only 1 primetime game has been worth a damn

As a Steelers fan this week is “Yikes! We already played the Bills, a-holes.”

Stele wrote:

Actually excited about Thursday night game.

Why weren't you before? TNF is the best Thursday night comedy since NBC's Must See TV.

I thought that Mac Jones slide turn kick to the groin was odd looking.. turns out I watched a montage of dirty plays from him.. Seems like a match made in heaven for the Patriots.

Pink Stripes wrote:

Pretty wild that Seahawks v Giants is the only game this week between two teams with a winning record.

More importantly, It's also a matchup of two of the three teams in the HOLY SH!T HOW DO WE KEEP WINNING?! tier above.

Of all of the wild stuff that has happened this year, the fact that the Seahawks and Giants are seriously in the playoff hunt eight weeks into the season might be the wildest. At least with the Eagles there were glimmers of goodness a season ago.

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Chiefs trade for Kadarius Toney, aka "Yung Joka".

In 2022, Toney so far has more rap videos (1) than receiving yards (0).

Best commercial ever!

*Legion* wrote:

Chiefs trade for Kadarius Toney, aka "Yung Joka".

In 2022, Toney so far has more rap videos (1) than receiving yards (0).

Yeah, I read this and was like "wait, who again?" but I'm kind of scared we gave up a really useful weapon from the way analysts are responding to this, which is borderline "You just traded Cooper Kupp"-level stuff.

He's a joker, such a fitting name. Shame DG picked him with a 1st rounder but he never played enough games to show his potential. See ya and good luck with your rap career. Oh and football too if you still want to do that. Punk

Prederick wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Chiefs trade for Kadarius Toney, aka "Yung Joka".

In 2022, Toney so far has more rap videos (1) than receiving yards (0).

Yeah, I read this and was like "wait, who again?" but I'm kind of scared we gave up a really useful weapon from the way analysts are responding to this, which is borderline "You just traded Cooper Kupp"-level stuff.

Toney has been on the Giants for 24 games total, and has played in 12 of them. Last year, he had 39 catches on 57 targets for 420 yards and zero TDs. This year, he has played in two games. He has TWO receptions. For ZERO yards.

I would suggest "Cooper Kupp-level" is perhaps somewhat more than a slight exaggeration. Either Toney is genuinely awful, or he's so disinterested and toxic you don't want him on your team.

Toney has always been made of glass. He had shoulder injuries in his freshman and junior seasons in college, and he wasn't even a starter then. He was a senior season one-year wonder.

I didn't like his selection on draft day:

*Legion* wrote:

Not surprised to see Toney be the 4th WR off the board, but I wouldn't do it.

... and nothing I've seen since then changed my mind.

I think the odds that the Giants end up regretting moving on from Toney are pretty low.

Enix wrote:
Pink Stripes wrote:

Pretty wild that Seahawks v Giants is the only game this week between two teams with a winning record.

More importantly, It's also a matchup of two of the three teams in the HOLY SH!T HOW DO WE KEEP WINNING?! tier above.

Of all of the wild stuff that has happened this year, the fact that the Seahawks and Giants are seriously in the playoff hunt eight weeks into the season might be the wildest. At least with the Eagles there were glimmers of goodness a season ago.

Just here to point out that SEA is 7th in DVOA and NYG is 14th (they were lower before last week). Yes, we all thought Seattle was going to be atrocious before the season but they have been playing well. NYG have been winning one score games disproportionately and I'd think we should expect them to revert to the mean. They aren't anywhere close to their record.

None of this is to negate your point; it IS surprising!

I'm just less surprised that a team playing middle-of-the-road football (NYG) has a Top 5 record. That happens all the time (MIN is 18th in DVOA).

Jamarr Chase out indefinitely.

TB can't score all season and tonight gets 10 in first? Ugh

Great 3rd quarter for Likely. Ravens lead

haven't got to watch much of either of these teams. Both teams clearly have stuff to work through but I had expected the Tampa offensive struggles to be all on Brady's ageing. But their offense is just terrible on every level. They are just not on the same page.

Whew, Ravens!

Brady gave up his family to play in these games.

Stele wrote:

Whew, Ravens!

Can't find a way to win easy, can they?

What a dull bad game. If you're going to be bad, be ridiculously bad.

*Legion* wrote:

Brady gave up his family to play in these games.

So Kareem rebounds, right, feeds Worthy on the break, over to AC, to Magic, then back to Worthy - boom! two points.

*Legion* wrote:

Brady gave up his family to play in these games.

Maybe his family sucks. They are related to Tom Brady after all.

Rat Boy wrote:

What a dull bad game. If you're going to be bad, be ridiculously bad.

You think so? I thought it had drama. The lead changed hands twice, there were chunk plays on either side, the Ravens were in danger of blowing yet another 4th quarter double digit lead to lose, and Brady showed flashes of his old brilliance while demonstrating to us all how Father Time has come for him.

Maybe it's because I am a Ravens homer, but I thought it was a pretty well paced drama to the end.

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