NFL 2022: The Week 2 thread

ukickmydog wrote:
fangblackbone wrote:

On another note, that seemingly minute long Kyler Murray scramble. I think he ran 40+ yards just to gain what, 5?

They actually mentioned how far he ran on that play during the game. It was 80-something yards and like 24 seconds long if I recall correctly.

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*Legion* wrote:

Matt Rhule says "we're close".

I think he means "we're close to having Baker Mayfield be as bad as Sam Darnold was last year."

I mean, look at this nonsense:

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It's excruciating to watch. I turned on the Packers-Bears game last night, and it wasn't like any offensive football I'd seen earlier on Sunday.

I mean, I watched alot of Baker... he wasn't great last year. Maybe he was hurt, maybe he still is. But maybe your best option is Hey Darnold!

Mike Evans suspended one game, to the shock of Bucs fans who apparently don't pay attention to reality.

Shockingly, the second time you rush in and flatten a guy, the NFL wants to encourage you to, you know, stop doing that.

Enix wrote:

It's excruciating to watch. I turned on the Packers-Bears game last night, and it wasn't like any offensive football I'd seen earlier on Sunday.

A Ben McAdoo offense underperforming?

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A Ben McAdoo offense underperforming?

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MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Mike Evans suspended one game, to the shock of Bucs fans who apparently don't pay attention to reality.

Shockingly, the second time you rush in and flatten a guy, the NFL wants to encourage you to, you know, stop doing that.

Apparently Mike Evans told the refs: "That's Tom Brady. What you want me to do?!"

I mean, he's not wrong.

The suspension is right, and so probably was Evans playing the McSorley to Brady's Gretzky regardless of the punishment.

The Bills are clearly in decline: they punted. The Titans muffed the punt and gave the ball back, but it doesn't matter.

Could literally anything else be going wrong for the Titans?

Prederick wrote:

Could literally anything else be going wrong for the Titans?

Derrick Henry isn't hurt yet?

Just saw Legion's Jaguars are leading the AFC South, because they're the only team to have won a game.

1-7 as a division. Feel the excitement.

2 boring ass games tonight.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Just saw Legion's Jaguars are leading the AFC South, because they're the only team to have won a game.

1-7 as a division. Feel the excitement.

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king!

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Prederick wrote:

Could literally anything else be going wrong for the Titans?

Derrick Henry isn't hurt yet?

TBH might be a positive if he was out.....

staygold wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Prederick wrote:

Could literally anything else be going wrong for the Titans?

Derrick Henry isn't hurt yet?

TBH might be a positive if he was out.....

Henry was at the top of my fantasy "DO NOT DRAFT" list this year. The decline has been building for two years now (yes, including 2020, his best fantasy year). He's built a reputation on the basis of 2 dominant seasons out of a 6 year career, and now year 7 has started off with that downward trend resembling a nosedive. Another power back who burned the candle at both ends, and now he's lost both power and explosiveness.

Pink Stripes wrote:

The Bills are clearly in decline: they punted. The Titans muffed the punt and gave the ball back, but it doesn't matter.

The punt was mediocre at best. They could have used some punting diety or something like that. If only they had the moral clarity of the Browns.

The Bucs have picked up Cole Beasley, because it's been a bit since there was a player on the team who I was rooting to get injured on every play.

TB not enough for you?

The next HoF class might not have any QBs in it.

The list of 129 nominees is out; QB nominees are Randall Cunningham, Jake Delhomme, Jeff Garcia, Dave Krieg, Donovan McNabb and Steve McNair.

I would think folks would argue for Cunningham, McNabb and McNair, but I can't make a strong enough case for any of them. Can y'all?

(Nice to see Delhomme listed here, but he's not nearly good enough.)

I would think folks would argue for Cunningham, McNabb and McNair, but I can't make a strong enough case for any of them. Can y'all?

Nope. Cunningham, if any of them, because he did 'change the game' a bit with his play. But all of them should be in their team's HoF, not the NFL HoF IMO.

None of those are Hall of Fame QBs. The 3 you mentioned are definitely the strongest, particularly McNabb and Cunningham, but I don't think either guy gets over that line.

Give me Joe Thomas and Darrelle Revis as the two obvious first-ballot guys going in this year, and then let's put some previous finalists in. Give me Patrick Willis, Willie Anderson, Ronde Barber. Also, just because I'm feeling spicy, give me the greatest fullback of a generation, FRESNO STATE'S own Lorenzo Neal.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

The Bucs have picked up Cole Beasley, because it's been a bit since there was a player on the team who I was rooting to get injured on every play.

You should have to listen to his new rap album as penance.

Enix wrote:

The next HoF class might not have any QBs in it.

I was randomly thinking last night. I wonder from the 2018 season onwards, will there ever be another RB in the HOF? With the replaceability of the position and how short RB careers are, what's the over-under on RB's who started playing in the 2010's onwards getting in?

AP and Frank Gore get in sometime soon but both started playing earlier than 2010. Next closest per Pro Football Reference's HOF index would be LeSean McCoy who I'd feel iffy about.

Now for guys who started playing 2010 onwards (HOF Monitor rank in brackets):
2010: LeGarrette Blount (25.30), Ryan Mathews (20.98)
2011: DeMarco Murray (34.73), Mark Ingram (34.50)
2012: Doug Martin (22.55)
2013: Lev Bell (37.60), Gio Bernard (18.40)
2014: Devonta Freeman (24.93), James White (24.63), Latavius Murray (19.25)
2015: Todd Gurley (34.15), Melvin Gordon (24.63), David Johnson (22.45)
2016: Ezekiel Elliot (34.23), Derrick Henry (27.20)
2017: Alvin Kamara (34.30), Christian McCaffrey (24.00), Dalvin Cook (23.88), Aaron Jones (19.50), Kareem Hunt (18.68), Leonard Fournette (18.20)
2018: Nick Chubb (19.35)

Out of all of those from guys who aren't playing anymore maybe Lev Bell makes it?
I could see Alvin Kamara and _maybe_ McCaffrey make it in as the archetype of the modern 2010's transition to the pass-catching multifaceted back.

I was randomly thinking last night. I wonder from the 2018 season onwards, will there ever be another RB in the HOF?

I think you're on to something with the 'hybrid' backs getting in - I could see Kamara & McCaffrey getting in if they can get back to a team with solid QB play and make a few deep playoff runs.

For the traditional RBs on there, Elliot may get in if the Cowboys win a Super Bowl. Gurley looked like he might be on that path before his knee was destroyed.

staygold wrote:

I wonder from the 2018 season onwards, will there ever be another RB in the HOF?

Kyle Juszczyk.

On name alone ;P

The 49ers worked out QBs today, including Kurt Benkert, AJ McCarron, and Mike Glennon.

FREE THE GINGER GIRAFFE.

Alex Smith? ;P

*Legion* wrote:
staygold wrote:

I wonder from the 2018 season onwards, will there ever be another RB in the HOF?

Kyle Juszczyk. :D

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

The 49ers worked out QBs today, including Kurt Benkert, AJ McCarron, and Mike Glennon.

FREE THE GINGER GIRAFFE.

Convince Carolina to sign OBJ. Then trade Juszczyk for Baker, OBJ, and a second.