NFL 2022: The training camp thread

I know it’s only preseason but this Isaiah Likely kid is a baller. 8 for 8 for 100 yards and a td in one half of football.

Well, the Vikings have a new backup QB that I used to cheer for, but it's not the BOAT.

They sent a 7th to Vegas to bring in Nick Mullens.

MULLENSANITY!

*Legion* wrote:

Well, the Vikings have a new backup QB that I used to cheer for, but it's not the BOAT.

They sent a 7th to Vegas to bring in Nick Mullens.

One step closer to Chase Garbers taking over.

Also, Davis Webb looked pretty good for the Giants

Quarterback U!

Baker Mayfield is officially the starting QB of the Carolina Panthers.

Meanwhile, the Seahawks are reportedly lying in wait for Garoppolo to be released by the 49ers.

*Legion* wrote:

Baker Mayfield is officially the starting QB of the Carolina Panthers.

Meanwhile, the Seahawks are reportedly lying in wait for Garoppolo to be released by the 49ers.

I thought the Browns were signing Garoppolo

Paleocon wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Baker Mayfield is officially the starting QB of the Carolina Panthers.

Meanwhile, the Seahawks are reportedly lying in wait for Garoppolo to be released by the 49ers.

I thought the Browns were signing Garoppolo

They were going to trade for him with all the draft capital they didn't send to Houston.

Paleocon wrote:

I thought the Browns were signing Garoppolo

Still a possibility, but not as strong of one since the suspension came up short of a full year.

With Seattle, Garoppolo would not only play the full season (minus maybe the first couple of games just due to timing), but there's a real chance Seattle could decide to keep Garoppolo beyond this year.

I know fans think the Seahawks are gonna tank for some young dynamic playmaker QB (leaving aside for a moment whether there are any of those in this upcoming draft), but when people say that, I wonder what image of Pete Carroll exists in their head. This is the guy that didn't want to "let Russ cook", he wanted Russ to be, well, more like Jimmy Garoppolo. Not sure what these fans are thinking.

Well, except this Seahawks fan:

billt721 wrote:

Screw a QB, I'm all for tanking and getting Carroll and Schneider fired.

I respect it.

Geno clearly isn't the answer and Lock hasn't proven himself one way or the other in Seattle yet. I'm fine bringing in Jimmy as long as the contract is reasonable, if the line is actually competent he could succeed here.

*Legion* wrote:

Baker Mayfield is officially the starting QB of the Carolina Panthers.

I hope y'all were sitting down for that news flash. /s

Rhule's getting lit up for his comments today about how "most teams will play multiple quarterbacks."

I'm pretty sure he's talking about injuries, and he's not wrong there (see Corral, Matt). But Rhule is so galaxy-brained he might very well be talking about some sort of platoon situation he cooked up last year. We'll see!!

I honestly want nothing more than for a modern NFL team to go full "WoodStrock" QB platoon.

Maynold?

No. Darnfield. Definitely Darnfield.

*Legion* wrote:

I honestly want nothing more than for a modern NFL team to go full "WoodStrock" QB platoon.

Maynold?

No. Darnfield. Definitely Darnfield.

Let's play this out: In what situation would you want to start Baker? In what situation would you want to start Darnold?

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

Let's play this out: In what situation would you want to start Baker? In what situation would you want to start Darnold?

Who has the better week of practice. Who played better in their snaps last week. What house the moon is in. Who cares? Rotate them every couple of series. Ride the hot hand when one of them manages to not play like ass for a few plays in a row. Let them compete!

Back in '83, media compared Strock to relief pitcher Rollie Fingers. There you go. Start one guy, and bring the other one in when you need a spark.

Oooh, ooh, let's MLB it. You have an opener QB, then you bring in your starter, then, maybe you have a closer to finish it off.

what I'm saying is that the Panthers should have 12 QBs, just like an MLB pitching staff. Can't go any worse, right?

Hmmm. What are the final frontiers of platooning? QB of course. Every other position on the field has gone this way. RBBC. 3rd down specialists. Nickel/dime DBs. Etc.

Well, except OL but they all get hurt all the time anyway so kind of the same thing. Plus no one loves the OL but me and Legion anyway.

Prederick wrote:

what I'm saying is that the Panthers should have 12 QBs, just like an MLB pitching staff. Can't go any worse, right?

Carolina's paying the 8th highest cash figure in 2022 for their QB pitching staff, but all they have are middle relievers.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

I honestly want nothing more than for a modern NFL team to go full "WoodStrock" QB platoon.

Maynold?

No. Darnfield. Definitely Darnfield.

Let's play this out: In what situation would you want to start Baker? In what situation would you want to start Darnold?

Is "when I'm building a starting roster in the XFL" an acceptable answer?

*Legion* wrote:
Prederick wrote:

what I'm saying is that the Panthers should have 12 QBs, just like an MLB pitching staff. Can't go any worse, right?

Carolina's paying the 8th highest cash figure in 2022 for their QB pitching staff, but all they have are middle relievers.

Worked for the Royals!

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

Let's play this out: In what situation would you want to start Baker?

I'd start Baker in games I'm hoping to win.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

In what situation would you want to start Darnold?

I'd start Darnold when I'm planning to lose a game.

*Legion* wrote:

Darnfield. Definitely Darnfield.

PJ Matthew "Cam" Darnfield. Wish it into being!

Kayvon Thibodeaux suffered an MCL injury in the Giants/Bengals game, which will keep him out a few weeks:

A lot of people who should know better have been screaming on social media, claiming the block to be dirty:

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The Bengals are running a split zone play, and this is a standard cut block. Thibodoeaux creates the problem for himself by planting his feet and turning his shoulder to try and create a shoulder-to-shoulder collision, not realizing that he's about to get cut.

Defensive linemen are taught how to defend against cut blocks, which is all about getting your hands on the shoulders of the blocker, driving him down and keeping him from getting in to your legs. Here's a couple (short) videos:

Fortunately, some saner voices joined the conversation, like Brett Kollman and Joe Thomas:

Speaking of franchises that don't seem to know what they're doing, the Jags have apparently waived the only kicker on the roster.

Jags: Putting the 2 into the 2022 season

Or:

TWOooooo-vaaaaaaaaaal!

Enix wrote:

Speaking of franchises that don't seem to know what they're doing, the Jags have apparently waived the only kicker on the roster.

Jags: Putting the 2 into the 2022 season

Or:

TWOooooo-vaaaaaaaaaal!

Lol. I wonder if they can trade a 3rd rounder to the Ravens for Kaare Vedvik or something. Oops. Someone already did that a while back.

Enix wrote:

Speaking of franchises that don't seem to know what they're doing, the Jags have apparently waived the only kicker on the roster.

NO, not my fat boy kicker! This was his time to shine!

I guess the team's gonna sign some kicker that isn't making someone else's roster.

EDIT: Yep, they claimed James McCourt off waivers, who was a UDFA that signed with the Chargers after the draft.

So, this is a kid who chose to sign with the Chargers and compete with veteran Dustin Hopkins, rather than sign somewhere like Jacksonville where the job was wide open and up for grabs. And now the Jags are having to use waiver priority to get him.

Screw it, going for it on 4th down every time.

Maybe kickers are avoiding Jacksonville for self-preservation reasons? Urban could be lurking.

CALL ROBERTO AGUAYO, COWARDS.

Pink Stripes wrote:

Screw it, going for it on 4th down every time.

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Fat Boi Kicker Ryan Santoso does not approve.

Looks like they picked up a chargers practice squad kicker.

Jaguars made a trade! They've acquired offensive tackle Cole Van Lanen from the Packers for an undisclosed draft pick.

Not a trade I can bash Baalke over, sadly, as Van Lanen had some decent performances this preseason. Green Bay just had a crowded O-line depth chart, and Van Lanen is better than the guys that were competing for the bottom of the Jags OL depth chart.

*Legion* wrote:

I honestly want nothing more than for a modern NFL team to go full "WoodStrock" QB platoon.

Maynold?

No. Darnfield. Definitely Darnfield.

Screw Darnfield...

PFT: Pete Carroll doesn’t rule out using both of his quarterbacks, Geno Smith and Drew Lock

LOCKSMITH!!

Checking back in on my "interesting bubble guys" post...

*Legion* wrote:

For the 49ers, the answer is easy: Jason Poe.

Poe continues to make things interesting. So interesting, in fact, that the question no longer seems to be whether or not he's making the roster, but whether or not he's going to start.

Last time we checked in, he had worked his way up to the 2nd team. Over the last couple of days, Shanahan has started rotating him in to take 1st team snaps. Ultimately, I expect Aaron Banks (last year's 2nd round pick) will start the season with the job, but he's going to be on a short leash.

Still conceivable they could try to stash Poe on the practice squad, simply because his extreme outlier physical profile makes him a square peg for most offenses. But the fact he's rotating in for even limited 1st team reps is astounding. He's a hard one to fathom.

For the Jaguars, I'm going with Ryan Santoso

I'll help Enix out and do the Panthers too. It's edge rusher (maybe?) Arron Mosby (...) FRESNO STATE

Mosby had a strong outing in preseason week 2. It sounds like he's mostly a candidate for the practice squad though, but that's just because Matt Rhule thinks Temple is better than FRESNO STATE, even though Fresno's won as many bowl games since 2017 as Temple has in their entire 75 season history (including going 0-2 in bowls under Rhule).