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Maxim Shugalei expelled to Russia

Interesting.....

I was just telling my friend that the collapce of Assad in Syria demonstrates that Russian power projection has become strained to the point that they will need to contract from foreign operations and that the French, in particular, would not squander this opportunity.

It looks like they are exerting soft power first, but I suspect we will see open season on Russian speakers in Africa before too long. Wagner has lost its support from Moscow. Paris will make sure it loses its revenue in Africa.

Paleocon wrote:

I was just telling my friend that the collapce of Assad in Syria demonstrates that Russian power projection has become strained to the point that they will need to contract from foreign operations

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Rat Boy wrote:
Paleocon wrote:

I was just telling my friend that the collapse of Assad in Syria demonstrates that Russian power projection has become strained to the point that they will need to contract from foreign operations

The United States has entered the chat.

Nope. The US is increasingly contracting from foreign involvement itself. There is no political appetite for the US to enter Africa and Trump has made it clear with his "America First" business that he will let the Russians have what they want.

Getting Wagner out of Africa is up to Paris.

Looks like the current government in France is about to fall, so the continuation of policies like this is in question in the short term.

Yeah, plus, the actual PEOPLE of Africa do not want the French back, at all. They much, much prefer the Russians.

Isn't China a major player in Africa now?

Yeah, but not militarily. Russia is putting actual boots on the ground in Africa, and they are far, far more popular and liked than the French.

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Paleocon wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:
Paleocon wrote:

I was just telling my friend that the collapse of Assad in Syria demonstrates that Russian power projection has become strained to the point that they will need to contract from foreign operations

The United States has entered the chat.

Nope. The US is increasingly contracting from foreign involvement itself. There is no political appetite for the US to enter Africa and Trump has made it clear with his "America First" business that he will let the Russians have what they want.

Getting Wagner out of Africa is up to Paris.

I'm not saying the US is getting Wagner out of Africa/the Mid East; I'm saying the US, specifically American based PMCs, could end up filling Wagner's place on Russia's behalf.

Looks like Yoon backed off the martial law order now that it became clear he was going to lose control over the military.

Next up: impeachment.

South Korean president says he will lift his martial law decree after lawmakers vote against it

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol said early Wednesday that he would soon lift the martial law he imposed during a tense night of political drama in which troops surrounded parliament and lawmakers voted to reject military rule.

Yoon said his government withdrew military personnel that had been deployed and that he would formally lift martial law following a Cabinet meeting as “soon as members arrive.”

Yoon declared martial law late Tuesday, vowing to eliminate “anti-state” forces as he struggles against an opposition that controls the country’s parliament and that he accuses of sympathizing with communist North Korea.

Less than three hours later, parliament voted to lift the declaration, with National Assembly Speaker Woo Won Shik declaring that the martial law was “invalid” and that lawmakers “will protect democracy with the people.”

The president’s surprising move harkened back to an era of authoritarian leaders that the country has not seen since the 1980s, and it was immediately denounced by the opposition and the leader of Yoon’s own party.

Police and military personnel were seen leaving the Assembly’s grounds after Woo called for their withdrawal. Lee Jae-myung, leader of the liberal Democratic Party, which holds the majority in the 300-seat parliament, said the party’s lawmakers will remain in the Assembly’s main hall until Yoon formally lifts his order.

Woo applauded how troops quickly left the Assembly after the vote.

“Even with our unfortunate memories of military coups, our citizens have surely observed the events of today and saw the maturity of our military,” Woo said.

While announcing his plan to lift martial law, Yoon continued to criticize parliament’s attempts to impeach his key government officials and senior prosecutors and lawmakers’ “unscrupulous acts of legislative and budgetary manipulation that are paralyzing the functions of the state.”

Jo Seung-lae, a Democratic lawmaker, claimed that security camera footage following Yoon’s declaration showed that troops moved in a way that suggested they were trying to arrest Lee, Woo and even Han Dong-hoon, the leader of Yoon’s People Power Party.

Officials from Yoon’s office and the Defense Ministry did not respond to requests for comment early Wednesday.

Seemingly hundreds of protesters gathered in front of the Assembly, waving banners and calling for Yoon’s impeachment.

Some protesters scuffled with troops ahead of the lawmakers’ vote, but there were no immediate reports of injuries or major property damage. At least one window was broken as troops attempted to enter the Assembly building. One woman tried unsuccessfully to pull a rifle away from one of the soldiers, while shouting “Aren’t you embarrassed?”

Under South Korea’s constitution, the president can declare martial law during “wartime, war-like situations or other comparable national emergency states” that require the use of military force to maintain peace and order. It was questionable whether South Korea is currently in such a state.

When martial law is declared, “special measures” can be employed to restrict the freedom of press, freedom of assembly and other rights, as well as the power of courts.

The constitution also states that the president must oblige when the National Assembly demands the lifting of martial law with a majority vote.

Following Yoon’s announcement, South Korea’s military proclaimed that parliament and other political gatherings that could cause “social confusion” would be suspended, South Korea’s Yonhap news agency said. The military said anyone who violates the decree could be arrested without a warrant.

In Washington, the White House said the U.S. was “seriously concerned” by the events in Seoul. A spokesperson for the National Security Council said President Joe Biden’s administration was not notified in advance of the martial law announcement and was in contact with the South Korean government.

Speaking at an event with Japan’s ambassador to Washington, U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Kurt Campbell, a longtime Asia diplomat, reiterated that the U.S.-South Korea alliance is “ironclad” and the U.S. would “stand by Korea in their time of uncertainty.”

The South Korean military also said that the country’s striking doctors should return to work within 48 hours, Yonhap said. Thousands of doctors have been striking for months over government plans to expand the number of students at medical schools.

Soon after the declaration, the parliament speaker called on his YouTube channel for all lawmakers to gather at the National Assembly. He urged military and law enforcement personnel to “remain calm and hold their positions.

All 190 lawmakers who participated in the vote supported the lifting of martial law. Television footage showed soldiers who had been stationed at parliament leaving the site after the vote.

Hours earlier, TV showed police officers blocking the entrance of the National Assembly and helmeted soldiers carrying rifles in front of the building.

An Associated Press photographer saw at least three helicopters, likely from the military, that landed inside the Assembly grounds, while two or three helicopters circled above the site.

The leader of Yoon’s conservative People Power Party, Han Dong-hoon, called the decision to impose martial law “wrong” and vowed to “stop it with the people.” Lee, who narrowly lost to Yoon in the 2022 presidential election, called Yoon’s announcement “illegal and unconstitutional.”

Yoon said during a televised speech that martial law would help “rebuild and protect” the country from “falling into the depths of national ruin.” He said he would “eradicate pro-North Korean forces and protect the constitutional democratic order.”

“I will eliminate anti-state forces as quickly as possible and normalize the country,” he said, while asking the people to believe in him and tolerate “some inconveniences.”

Yoon — whose approval rating has dipped in recent months — has struggled to push his agenda against an opposition-controlled parliament since taking office in 2022.

Yoon’s party has been locked in an impasse with the liberal opposition over next year’s budget bill. The opposition has also attempted to pass motions to impeach three top prosecutors, including the chief of the Seoul Central District Prosecutors’ Office, in what the conservatives have called a vendetta against their criminal investigations of Lee, who has been seen as the favorite for the next presidential election in 2027 in opinion polls.

During his televised announcement, Yoon also described the opposition as “shameless pro-North Korean anti-state forces who are plundering the freedom and happiness of our citizens,” but he did not elaborate.

Yoon has taken a hard line on North Korea over its nuclear ambitions, departing from the policies of his liberal predecessor, Moon Jae-in, who pursued inter-Korean engagement.

Yoon has also dismissed calls for independent investigations into scandals involving his wife and top officials, drawing quick, strong rebukes from his political rivals.

Yoon’s move was the first declaration of martial law since the country’s democratization in 1987. The country’s last previous martial law was in October 1979, following the assassination of former military dictator Park Chung-hee.

Natalia Slavney, research analyst at the Stimson Center’s 38 North website that focuses on Korean affairs, said Yoon’s imposition of martial law was “a serious backslide of democracy in South Korea” that followed a “worrying trend of abuse” since he took office in 2022.

South Korea “has a robust history of political pluralism and is no stranger to mass protests and swift impeachments,” Slavney said, citing the example of former President Park Geun-hye.

Park, the country’s first female president, was ousted from office and imprisoned for bribery and other crimes in 2017.

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Yoon, tomorrow, ideally:

Meanwhile, the leader of the governing party has told the president to explain his decision to declare martial law.

People Power Party leader Han Dong-hoon said in a statement early on Wednesday morning local time: “As the ruling party, we feel deeply sorry to the public.”

In comments reported on CNN, he added: “The president must directly and thoroughly explain this tragic situation. The minister of defense, who recommended this martial law, should be immediately dismissed, and all those responsible must be held strictly accountable.”

Homeboy is exquisitely cooked.

Prederick wrote:

“As the ruling party, we feel deeply sorry to the public.”

Must be nice to have one of those.

Leader of South Korea's ruling People Power Party calls for entire cabinet to resign
The leader of South Korea’s ruling People Power Party Han Dong-hoon called on Wednesday for Defence Minister Kim Yong-hyun to be fired and the entire cabinet to resign, after President Yoon Suk-Yeol declared martial law only to reverse the move hours later, according to Reuters.

Han told reporters he also suggested Yoon be kicked out of the party, but ruling party lawmakers had various views.

Man, there's having too much dip on your chip, and then there's what this moron tried.

Again, must be nice to have a ruling party that mostly thinks that their president is too authoritarian.

Apparently, Yoon's popularity was barely over 10% BEFORE he did this, and I need someone to commission a new poll immediately. I wanna see if a politician can get an actual goose egg in a poll.

A parliament pushing back against an executive with dictatorial tendencies!? US Congress should take notes.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

A parliament pushing back against an executive with dictatorial tendencies!? US Congress should take notes.

They are taking notes, on what not to do.

I just hope that any military support Trump might have, is not taking notes.
Some wannabe dictators would have stopped that parliament in a more definitive way.

Some people (in media, commentators etc.) seem scared about South Korea, and it obviously isn't good that it happened. But they kinda seem to have handled it as well as anyone could. Showing strength of their democracy rather than the opposite.

(If South Korea reelects the guy in 4 years I take my post back!)

What may have saved South Korea from authoritarianism and/or a civil war was that their police and military weren't willing to fire on their own citizens. America is not that fortunate.

Lots of South Koreans have pretty fresh memories of what it was like when military dictators were in charge. Some look back wistfully like it was some sort of golden age, but the vast majority of folks recognize it was a time of repression, incompetence, and corruption. The pro democracy movement was widely popular across classes and backgrounds and the prospect of returning to authoritarian rule is very much a third rail in Korean politics. The fact that Yoon could have misread the situation that badly demonstrates that he was always in way over his head.

As soon as Yoon declared martial law, Speaker of the Assembly Woo Won-sik and his aides drove to the Assembly Hall in 12 minutes, covering a distance that usually takes over 35 minutes. They arrived before the military, enabling the vote to end martial law.

This'll make a great black comedy.

So it looks like the troops that entered the National Assembly building had no idea what they were there for. They were not briefed on their mission other than that they were going to be deployed against "North Korean action". They were unaware of their destination until they had arrived. When they did, the stress on their faces was pretty evident when it dawned on them that they were being tasked to do a coup. And when the head of the national assembly told them what they were doing and that they should probably get out if they didn't want to end up committing unlawful orders, they f*cked off with a dizzying quickness.

This, more than the vote itself, is what convinced Yoon to rescind the Martial Law order as it became crystal clear that he had lost the military.

French Lawmakers Vote To Oust Prime Minister

Prime Minister Michel Barnier, a conservative appointed in September, will become the shortest-serving prime minister in France’s modern Republic.
Tom Nouvian and Sylvie Corbet

The head of lettuce is undefeated.

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Paleocon wrote:

So it looks like the troops that entered the National Assembly building had no idea what they were there for. They were not briefed on their mission other than that they were going to be deployed against "North Korean action". They were unaware of their destination until they had arrived. When they did, the stress on their faces was pretty evident when it dawned on them that they were being tasked to do a coup. And when the head of the national assembly told them what they were doing and that they should probably get out if they didn't want to end up committing unlawful orders, they f*cked off with a dizzying quickness.

This, more than the vote itself, is what convinced Yoon to rescind the Martial Law order as it became crystal clear that he had lost the military.

I saw some photos suggesting that the military went in without magazines in their weapons, or with blue training magazines and/or bolts.