NFL 2022: The preseason pre-draft thread

Looking forward to the Browns somehow trading Baker, OBJ, and a second for him.

Rat Boy wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

PFT says Watson could be traded by next week... if he doesn't get a felony indictment tomorrow.

Watson won't face charges.

He won't face *criminal* charges. All the civil cases still stand.

Yeah but those are about money. As long as he's not in jail some (most? All?) NFL teams don't care.

Today, on Bad F**king Takes:

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Can ESPN hire Jay Glazer to replace Schefter, too?

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- The Carolina Panthers will make an "aggressive" offer for Deshaun Watson as soon as the Houston quarterback waives his no-trade clause for them to negotiate with the Texans, a league source told ESPN.

Interesting to see what aggressive turns out to be. Considering he's 26 Russell Wilson level?

Carolina is all in on Watson: three firsts (including No. 6 overall this year), plus 1-2 starters. Panthers Twitter seems to think the players will still be on rookie deals, which means DT Derrick Brown, DE Brian Burns and maybe LB/S Jeremy Chinn and/or CB Jaycee Horn (tho Chinn seems to be the one untouchable bc he's a unicorn).

The two issues seems to be whether the Panthers can squeeze Watson's contract within their salary cap (which explains all the recent restructures) and whether Watson would agree to come to Charlotte.

I hope Watson says no. It costs me nothing to ignore the Texans. I don't want to have to go through a messy divorce with my team if he shows up in Charlotte.

Enix wrote:

Carolina is all in on Watson: three firsts (including No. 6 overall this year), plus 1-2 starters. Panthers Twitter seems to think the players will still be on rookie deals, which means DT Derrick Brown, DE Brian Burns and maybe LB/S Jeremy Chinn and/or CB Jaycee Horn (tho Chinn seems to be the one untouchable bc he's a unicorn).

The two issues seems to be whether the Panthers can squeeze Watson's contract within their salary cap (which explains all the recent restructures) and whether Watson would agree to come to Charlotte.

I hope Watson says no. It costs me nothing to ignore the Texans. I don't want to have to go through a messy divorce with my team if he shows up in Charlotte.

Better you than me.

Edit: But when did Rhule recruit him?

jowner wrote:
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- The Carolina Panthers will make an "aggressive" offer for Deshaun Watson as soon as the Houston quarterback waives his no-trade clause for them to negotiate with the Texans, a league source told ESPN.

Interesting to see what aggressive turns out to be.

"We're not taking "no" for an answer."

*Legion* wrote:
jowner wrote:
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- The Carolina Panthers will make an "aggressive" offer for Deshaun Watson as soon as the Houston quarterback waives his no-trade clause for them to negotiate with the Texans, a league source told ESPN.

Interesting to see what aggressive turns out to be.

"We're not taking "no" for an answer."

So Carolina is Watson and Houston is the masseuse

Rat Boy wrote:

Ian Rapport: Amari Cooper to the Browns.

Because Cleveland’s problem is clearly the lack of passing targets.

Rat Boy wrote:

Ian Rapport: Amari Cooper to the Browns.

Looking forward to a whole new era of "Baker, Amari, and a 2nd" comments.

*Legion* wrote:

Save $15m getting rid of Landry so you can take on Amari Cooper's $16m. Offer Dallas your compensatory 3rd round pick, they'd jump at it.

Turns out Dallas would jump at getting a 5th round pick for Amari.

Enix wrote:

The two issues seems to be whether the Panthers can squeeze Watson's contract within their salary cap (which explains all the recent restructures) and whether Watson would agree to come to Charlotte.

I hope Watson says no. It costs me nothing to ignore the Texans. I don't want to have to go through a messy divorce with my team if he shows up in Charlotte.

If I were Watson, and I wouldn't be because I'm not a rapist, but if I were a hypothetical non-rapey version of Watson, I would use my no-trade-clause as leverage to lower Houston's asking price.

Do you really want to go to Carolina if they have to give up Brian Burns and Horn or Brown to get you, and also give up the 1st round picks that would let them replace those players? Welcome to Carolina, sorry we don't have a defense anymore.

Carolina didn't have much of a defense with those players, tbh. And it's likely they'll probably lose Haason Reddick, Stephen Gilmore and Donte Jackson to free agency no matter what happens with Watson.

The smart play would seem to be to tank with Darnold this season, fire Rhule right before Thanksgiving and roll into a QB-rich draft (relatively speaking) in 2023 and start over.

But this is a team that spent all its draft picks on HEY DARNOLD and a cornerback that the Jags didn't want and just extended a TE who can't catch. So, sure, eight first-round picks, the corpse of CMC and a bag of barely used K balls for Watson seems about right.

PS: Watson apparently is pretty tight with Cam. I wonder what QB1 has whispered into his ear. Probably not much good after this season.

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MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

Ian Rapport: Amari Cooper to the Browns.

Looking forward to a whole new era of "Baker, Amari, and a 2nd" comments.

I’ll come up with a hotter take later, but if you told me this last week I would’ve been thrilled. Right now I kinda feel like we just sold the old cow for five magic beans.

Apparently the Saints (if Ian Rapoport's reporting is correct) are the latest team in the Watson sweepstakes.

That move confirms everything I think about the Saints, which is that the Saints are horrible and the whole franchise should be fired into the sun.

Paleocon wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

Ian Rapport: Amari Cooper to the Browns.

Because Cleveland’s problem is clearly the lack of passing targets.

Well, with OBJ being gone and Landry about to be a cap casualty, I think we need some new targets for Baker to miss.

I still want the Browns to draft Olave and/or Wilson, but my hope is Cooper can be at least a competent target. Moreover, I want to see stories in a month that Baker and Cooper are living together until Cooper finds a place in the NEO, that they get up at 5 to work out together and perfect routes, and that their wives and kids are now best friends.

Enix wrote:

Apparently the Saints (if Ian Rapoport's reporting is correct) are the latest team in the Watson sweepstakes.

Then the Panthers could snatch up Jameis.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

Ian Rapport: Amari Cooper to the Browns.

Looking forward to a whole new era of "Baker, Amari, and a 2nd" comments.

This might become relevant to you sooner than you thought.

Apparently the Bucs are taking a look at possibly acquiring Baker Mayfield.

Of course, a big part of that is because Cleveland is interested in Watson.

Imagine poor Iso finally getting his Baker trade, but it's because of them trading for Watson...

*Legion* wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

Ian Rapport: Amari Cooper to the Browns.

Looking forward to a whole new era of "Baker, Amari, and a 2nd" comments.

This might become relevant to you sooner than you thought.

Apparently the Bucs are taking a look at possibly acquiring Baker Mayfield.

Of course, a big part of that is because Cleveland is interested in Watson.

Imagine poor Iso finally getting his Baker trade, but it's because of them trading for Watson...

If that happens, I would finally be free.

Brady un-retires.

Vector wrote:

Brady un-retires.

My god he is such a narcissistic jack ass. I fully expect this behavior for the next 5 years so he can keep his name in the news as much as possible.

Nah, nah; this isn't how it works. You gotta go play for a crap team. That's how GOATs unretire.

I guess going to a Manchester United game seeing Ronaldo score a hat trick and then Ronaldo asking him if he was 'finished' may have triggered something.

f*cking hilarious.

TheGameguru wrote:
Vector wrote:

Brady un-retires.

My god he is such a narcissistic jack ass. I fully expect this behavior for the next 5 years so he can keep his name in the news as much as possible.

Rodgers is starting a 20 cleanse in response.

Someone check on the schmuck that just spent $518k on Brady's "final" touchdown ball.

Vector wrote:

Brady un-retires.

I wonder if Gronk will as well now.

The Bucs have the fourth hardest schedule next season and it looks like there will be some key pieces leaving in FA. They will probably still walk all over their train wreck of a division, but there is no way they are getting within sniffing distance of a first round bye.

Brady is not un-retiring because he never retired in the first place.