A place for aggregated discussions of a possible conflict, it’s implications and effects, news updates and personal accounts if any. If the expected conflict kicks off, I will change the title but the function will stay the same.
This all seems familiar.
Looks like a rapucha class landing ship and kilo class submarine were destroyed in Sevastopol overnight
Am going to try and watch some vids/reactions about that sub blowing up but good gawd that is hilarious that you fancy yourself a world power and have now lost a submarine...
To a country with no navy!
This particular sub was the newest in the improved kilo line. Completed in 2014 at a cost of $300 million, its price tag could almost pay for half of Abramovich’s second yacht.
Soldiers guarding the dry dock were so convinced it was an act of Ukrainian sabotage that they engaged in a firefight. With each other. Four confirmed dead, others injured.
This is your “near peer adversary”
Ukraine took out another S-400 battery in Crimea last night.
ATACMS finally coming (supposedly) and F-16s as early as this winter. I don't think many Russian officers will be getting restful sleep anywhere in Crimea ever again. They might as well drive back over the bridge to home.
I talked with my nephew who is in Georgia finishing up training on Bradley APCs this week and mentioned the ambush outside Robotyne where four Brads took out an entire Russian armored column without even taking return fire. He said they got some really good video of that engagement that he didn’t think were necessarily public yet and commented that it was like watching humans playing against Age of Empires AI. He mentioned that the Bohemia Interactive software they train on has much more competent adversaries and can only imagine what the OpFor folks are like.
Sweat in training or bleed in war.
<8 miles to Tokmak airport.
Little bit of insight into why Russia has not been able to establish air superiority there
And, yes, this is an "anti-Terror" operation. Right. You heard it here first.
Man, we really handed every nation on earth the perfect justification for whatever the hell they want, didn't we?
I am wondering whether we could do some 4D chess here.
My only concern and its a doozy is it will escalate the conflict and harm/kill many people.
But since Putin is so hell bent on disrupting US aid to Ukraine, make it look like it worked.
Say something public about how supply issues have been delayed and that the US is scrambling to find help from Europe to bridge the gap but that it will be months instead of days/weeks.
All the while supplying Ukraine normally or even boosting the supply.
Putin can't help but overstep and gets caught with his pants down. Hopefully ending the war sooner.
From reports on both sides of the conflict, it appears that the Russians continued to feed unsupported troops into Klischivka from the NE despite it being a wide open approach surrounded on three sides by hostile high ground. This was basically sending folks into a dry gulch/U-shaped ambush. The Ukrainians reported that the concentration of Russian dead was so dense that the entire area stunk of rotting meat that they said could be smelled multiple kilometers away.
The actual objective of Klischivka is of little to no tactical or strategic value. It is a small settlement that has been reduced to foundations of buildings. It is in low ground between fortifies heights. And the roads connected to it are cut off from Russian fire control at multiple spots. Far more important would be taking the fortified heights. But that isn't what they did. Instead, they sent human waves of terrified conscripts to their deaths and mowed them down with artillery and barrier troops when they broke and ran. The losses had to be in the tens of thousands from the description.
This begs the question why they would commit to such madness.
The answer, I propose, can be found in the writings of General Valerii Gerassimov current Chief of the General Staff of Russia. He wrote the definitive work on "hybrid warfare" and, at least before the full scale invasion, was widely regarded as a military genius. In it, he emphasizes that militarily important objectives should be regarded with lesser importance to that of symbolic ones that reinforce a narrative. This helps you dominate the information space and erode the political will of the enemy's political center of gravity. He has correctly identified that center as the American attention span and the low information voter. And the narrative he has chosen to attack it with is that the "Ukrainian counterattack has failed".
To this end, it is less important to defeat the Ukrainians militarily or stop its advance and more important to hold onto or recapture towns and landmarks that have names identified and repeated on the nightly news. The fact that the names Andriivka and Klischivka have been mentioned enough to create map pins in the American collective consciousness makes them important enough to sacrifice tens of thousands of terrified vatniks to hold onto the obliterated visitor sign.
The Russians sincerely believe that populations in the aggregate (not in the individual) are "hackable" with the appropriate application of misinformation. You can get them to believe anything or nothing at all with enough bizarre conspiracy shit and blatant lies being spouted at them with sufficient frequency. In the case of their own population, their aim is to create a population entirely divorced from and incapable of meaningful political action. They have turned their entire population into bovines to the abattoir. To the US population, the idea is to paralyze us with the idea that nothing is knowable so believe what makes you feel better about your disempowerment.
The scary thing is that there appears some pretty solid evidence that this approach is working. And scarier still is that we appear to be completely unwilling to do anything to combat it. We take it as a matter of faith that we are smarter than that and will eventually let the fever of cultish idiocy run its course. Mitt Romney, for instance, stated exactly that sentiment in his retirement address. He takes it as a matter of almost religious faith that the Republican Party will eventually come to its senses and recognize that facts and character matter.
I don't think we can rely on faith, but I don't know what concerted, collective action we should be taking. In previous times, we would have taken direct action against propagandists (with lesser or greater degrees of efficacy and some pretty worrying externalities). I am worried though that we are not doing enough.
I have said this several times before, but it bears repeating each time.
Folks that call themselves "realists" and champion the special hegemonic rights of a country with an economy the size of Spain's and a military budget smaller than India's aren't being "realistic". They are being nostalgic. Moreover, they are being nostalgic for genocidal authoritarianism. This doesn't make them clever. It makes they terrible human beings.
Poland to stop supplying weapons to Ukraine over grain row
One of Ukraine's staunchest allies, Poland, has announced it will no longer supply weapons to the country as a diplomatic dispute over grain escalates.
The nation's prime minister said it would instead focus on arming itself with more modern weapons.
The move comes as tensions between the two nations rise.
On Tuesday, Poland summoned Ukraine's ambassador over comments made by President Volodymyr Zelensky at the UN.
He said some nations had feigned solidarity with Ukraine, which Warsaw denounced as "unjustified concerning Poland, which has supported Ukraine since the first days of the war".
Poland's prime minister, Mateusz Morawiecki, announced the decision to no longer supply Ukraine with weapons in a televised address on Wednesday after a day of rapidly escalating tensions between the two countries over grain imports.
The grain dispute began after Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine all but closed the main Black Sea shipping lanes and forced Ukraine to find alternative overland routes.
That in turn led to large quantities of grain ending up in central Europe.
Consequently, the European Union temporarily banned imports of grain into five countries; Bulgaria, Hungary, Poland, Romania and Slovakia to protect local farmers, who feared Ukrainian grain was driving down the prices locally.
The ban ended on 15 September and the EU chose not to renew it, but Hungary, Slovakia and Poland decided to keep on implementing it.
The European Commission has repeatedly stated that it is not up to individual EU members to make trade policy for the bloc.
Putin:
POL walking those comments back, by the way. And Slovakia and Hungary working out the issues with the grain deal.
The Polish government sought to walk back remarks by its premier that the country had stopped weapons shipments to Ukraine, tapping the brakes on an escalating dispute that’s shaken a key wartime alliance.
After Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said Poland is no longer transferring weapons to Ukraine, his office aimed to lower the temperature following a heated exchange of barbs this week that’s dismayed allies and undermined a relationship that’s been crucial to aid to Kyiv.
“Poland is only carrying out previously agreed supplies of ammunition and armaments, including those resulting from the contracts signed with Ukraine,” government spokesman Piotr Muller said. Those include a contract to deliver locally-manufactured howitzers, he added. “Poland consistently helped repel Russia’s attack.”
Ukraine’s awkward allies: the far-right Russians fighting on Kyiv’s side
For Ukraine, I get it, you need any allies you can get. I'm just not sure what the hell RDK's position is here, is it that Putin isn't racist enough?
Nikitin also blames the media for exaggerating his notoriety. He has never used the phrase “white supremacist”, he claimed, and said he is only called a “neo-Nazi” because he is against “LGBTQ propaganda and cultural Marxism”.
CLEARLY, dude hasn't spent any time on Conservative Twitter, since that's what they say Ukraine is, when they're not saying it's all Nazis.
Vexler, this morning, made the very cogent observation that Western analysts consistently make the mistake of couching Putin's decision to invade Ukraine in a national security context. Zeihan is pretty guilty of this as are Kotkin and others. The reality has less to do with that than it does with domestic politics and regime security. He didn't invade Ukraine because there was a framework in which it made geopolitical sense. The physics of geopolitics refutes any attempt to make it make sense. Instead, he did so because it ensured his political legitimacy.
If we keep this in mind, it becomes rather obvious that there is no negotiated position that can stay stable or tenable for long. Putin's very political reason for existence IS the war. There is no ending it no matter what Ukraine gives up in return.
Interesting write-up on artillery in Ukraine:
Interesting write-up on artillery in Ukraine:
Impossible to read on their site with the text jumping around every time an ad cycles. Is there a printer friendly version somewhere?
Top_Shelf wrote:Interesting write-up on artillery in Ukraine:
Impossible to read on their site with the text jumping around every time an ad cycles. Is there a printer friendly version somewhere?
Everybody knows the Western movie trope: two gunmen on either side of a dusty road with cowboy hats, tumbleweed rolling between them. Both reach for their guns at the same time, but one is faster, and the other’s dead.
On a fundamental level, warfare with guns is brutally simple: The one who shoots the fastest and most accurately wins. The other dies.
Wildfire smoke is as bad as it feels—and getting worse
But artillery upends that trope.
Read more great Ukraine coverage by both Daily Kos staff and community members here.
War can be simply encapsulated in the theoretical concept of the “kill chain.”
In its most simplistic conception, the kill chain can be reduced to just three key elements:
Identification;
Tracking/Deployment; and
Engagement.
Identification means finding where your enemy is located. Tracking means following your enemy’s movement until force can be brought against it, while you deploy your forces into a position where they can launch an attack. Engagement is the act of attempting to destroy the enemy target.A gunman in a Western movie has a very simple kill chain. See the villain across the street. Watch his movements. Draw and shoot. The kill chain is completed when the target is neutralized.
There are two ways to disrupt the enemy’s kill chain.
First, you can “break” the kill chain by preventing the completion of any of the steps. Avoid detection in the first place, and the enemy cannot get started. If you are found, evasion, armor protection, electronic and physical countermeasures can also break the kill chain.
Second, you can complete your own kill chain before the enemy can complete theirs—like a gunman drawing his revolver faster, and gunning down his opponent.
The kill chain concept explains why the Russian forces are at such a severe disadvantage in the artillery war with Ukraine.
RUSSIAN ARTILLERY DOCTRINE BEFORE 2022
Modern Russian artillery doctrine grew from Soviet artillery doctrine. And Soviet artillery doctrine philosophically dates back to the very roots of its formation, in the last days of World War One.The Red Army’s lessons from WWI were fundamentally different from the Germans’ blitzkrieg concepts later adopted by Western military forces. Instead of concentrating mass at a single point to achieve a breakthrough utilizing mobility, Soviet doctrine was built out of concepts known as “Deep Battle” and “Deep Operation.”
“Deep Battle” meant engaging the enemy deep behind their front lines using artillery, and challenging their entire operational front. Meanwhile, front line positions would engage the enemy fluidly, while maintaining a static battle line as the artillery attrited the enemy’s rear positions.
Then, a massive concentrated mechanized armor force would punch through weakened enemy lines. That was the “Deep Operation.”
Deep Battle-Deep Operation doctrine necessitated massive armored formations, and conceived of movement in terms of corps- and division-sized operational units—numbering in the tens of thousands of soldiers.
In the 1950s, atomic weapons and increased overall firepower of artillery, rocket artillery, and air forces rendered the massive armored concentrations obsolete. Recognizing that, the Zhukov Reforms adjusted Russian doctrine toward smaller operational units, while attempting to maintain the goals of the “Deep Battle”—that is, to degrade the enemy force at depth.
The question for Soviet planners then became: How could they effectively engage Western armies with superior air power, without using large concentrations of forces that could be easily targeted and destroyed? Their answer, adopted in the 1970s and 1980s, was what became known as the “nonlinear warfare” concept.
Maintenance of large division- and corps-sized formations and coordination was deemphasized. Divisions, corps, and combined arms armies would still maintain a semblance of control and coordination over the front line tactical units through the control of operational and strategic reserve forces. When and where to devote elite mechanized reserve forces remained an important consideration, both offensively and defensively.
But while principle firepower—namely tube and rocket artillery—were controlled at the division and corps levels, artillery command was increasingly decentralized. A corps (25,000+ troops) or division (10,000+) no longer shared an artillery command; by the 1980s the battalion (800-1,000) became the tactical unit of choice.
In the new nonlinear doctrine of deployment, Russian battalions were no longer expected to maintain a linear defensive position in cooperation with other elements of their division or corps. Each battalion was expected to protect its own flanks, maintain its own logistics, and thus had its own full contingents of anti-air forces, armor, mechanized infantry and artillery.
This was a concept known as “tactical independence,” and evolved in the Battalion Tactical Group concept (known as BTG) adopted by the Russian army in the decade prior to the start of the Russo-Ukrainian War, which you might remember from early last year. Russia had largely abandoned the BTG concept as an organizational model by late 2022.
However, while Russia has distributed new manuals and tactics aimed at changing their doctrinal modes of warfare, the extent to which any tactical reform has taken place remains on an ad hoc basis, due to lack of training. In particular, the artillery of Russia has continued to operate much the same way—that is, decentralized.
As a matter of standard operational practice, Russian units attach artillery battalions to heavily engaged individual battalions at the front lines. This means that the “attached” artillery unit takes commands directly from the frontline battalion commander.
Attaching BTG battalions to frontline units permits commanders to more easily access coordinated artillery firepower on cue. This reduces the need for commanders to coordinate and share artillery assists with each other, reducing the need for secure and reliable communications—a weakness of Russian military equipment. RUSI has noted that insufficient and poor-quality radios are an endemic problem for the Russian military.
Furthermore, before Russia’s full scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, Russian military doctrine placed these Russian artillery units extremely physically close to the front lines—just 2km from the line of contact.
This both maximized the range and depth of firepower that Russian artillery units could bring against rearward enemy targets (“Deep Battle”), and allowed close coordination with frontline forces, by sheer proximity.
Russia was able to deploy artillery this close to the frontlines because of their reliance on overwhelming firepower to overcome enemy counter battery firepower, and through a faster kill chain than enemy artillery.
RUSSIAN EFFORTS FOR A FASTER KILL CHAIN
Russia devoted a great deal of effort to accelerating its artillery kill chain, to establish and maintain an overwhelming artillery advantage.It developed a variety of reconnaissance UAVs such as the Orlan-10, and numerous counter battery radars like the Zoopark-1M, to more quickly identify targets.
Russian doctrine sought to minimize the tracking/deployment phase of the kill chain, by positioning its artillery units almost right behind the front lines, just 2km behind the front line units.
In early 2022, well-trained Russian artillery crews could regularly bring Russian artillery firepower to bear on targets in as little as three minutes, obtaining target data from multiple sources (anti-battery radar, UAV reconnaissance, or auditory triangulation).
Finally, Russian artillery aimed to achieve effective engagement through either precision munitions or “weight of fires.”
Their primary precision-guided munition was the Krasnopol guided artillery shell, a laser-guided munition that could theoretically target Ukrainian artillery armored targets effectively.
However, the Krasnopol’s guidance systems performed erratically and inconsistently. Low hanging cloud cover, certain terrain disruptions, and electronic warfare can severely disrupt the Krasnopol’s accuracy. Furthermore, the Russian munitions industry failed to provide the Krasnopol in sufficient quantities to provide a decisive effect in 2022.
Thus, Russian artillery units predominantly relied on the classic solution to this problem: weight of fire. That is, Russia relied on the quantity of shells to make up for a lack of precision strike capability. Russian artillery might not be able to narrowly hit a target with an individual shot, but if they drop enough shells in an area, the chances of hitting the targets increased.
For example, if a 12-gun Russian battery of self-propelled howitzers targets its 12-gun enemy counterpart with 600 rounds within 15-20 minutes, the odds are good at least one of those rounds will hit something. That’s how you end up with moonscapes like this one, around Dovhen’ke.
Dovhen'ke satellite imagery
Russian artillery “weight of fires” in action. Did any of that hit anything of value?
Russian howitzers cannot fire more than three rounds per minute without doing harm to their barrel longevity and accuracy; thus that 600-round target requires a 12-gun Russian battery to remain in place firing continuously—for a full 15 minutes.Russians anticipated fighting classic “artillery duels” where opposing gun batteries would spend 10-20 minutes exchanging fire, until one side was destroyed or forced to relocate. Russian planners were confident that the sheer weight (quantity) of fire from Russian artillery units would make up for any precision munitions by the enemy, maintaining Russian superiority.
With sufficient ammunition, sufficient number of guns, sufficiently trained crews, sufficient reconnaissance and counterbattery radar assets, the Russian army could bring a fearsome amount of firepower down on Uranian positions. That’s why Ukraine’s first request of its Western partners was artillery, and that’s why American M777 howitzers were the first heavy Western system delivered. Few observers would dispute the idea that Russian artillery maintained a significant advantage over their Ukrainian counterparts on most engagements, and at some points, Ukraine pegged the disparity at 10:1, with Russia firing up to 50,000 shells per day.
RUSSIAN ARTILLERY DOCTRINE HAS BEEN NEUTRALIZED
However, beginning in the summer of 2022, then more rapidly in 2023, this Russian advantage began to disappear. By this summer, at the start of Ukraine’s counteroffensive, Russian observers were warning of a “genocide” of Russian artillery units.Oryx tracking of publicly available losses of both sides of the conflict began to show a massive disparity in artillery losses. Whereas earlier in the war, artillery losses remained largely even, by this summer, Ukraine was losing only a single artillery gun for every three to four Russian losses.
What changed?
First, and arguably one of the most important Ukrainian tactical innovations was to disperse its artillery assets. Placing a 12-gun battery in close proximity to each other would obviously make such coordinated and choreographed fire sequences simpler for a battery commander to execute. The first three to four minutes in a barrage are considered crucial, as they represent a golden opportunity to strike an unready enemy target, before crews have a chance to take cover, or even drive away.
However, Ukrainian batteries tend to operate in much smaller groups, choosing to disperse their artillery assets over a broad area. So to coordinate, they employ radio communications and more sophisticated electronic tools to coordinate their fires, while maintaining dispersion.
As such, rather than target fields with 12 Ukrainian guns with a decent chance of scoring kills, Russian artillery units have struggled to bring sufficient weight of fire on dispersed Ukrainian artillery. Instead of a single locale, Russian batteries may be forced to divide their attention among six, eight, or 10 separate targets. Saturating their vicinity with sufficient shells to obtain a hit would quickly drain Russian ammunition, thus Russian batteries are forced to shorten their barrages. This significantly reduces the effectiveness of Russian counterbattery fire.
Second, particularly across the southern front, where the fighting has been heaviest, Ukraine has increasingly moved from relying on towed artillery, like the American M777 howitzer, to relying on self-propelled howitzers like the M109 Paladin.
GRAFENWOEHR, GERMANY - MAY 19: Soldiers of the Spanish Army fire a M777 howitzer artillery cannon during live fire exercises at the Grafenwoehr military training grounds on May 19, 2021 near Grafenwoehr, Germany. The exercises are taking place in the context of the "Fire Shock" series of long range, precision artillery exercises by the U.S. military with regional partners in Europe and Africa. (Photo by Lennart Preiss/Getty Images)
M777 towed howitzer
M109 Paladin in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
M109 self-propelled artillery gun
Towed artillery requires several minutes to pack up and hitch to its towing vehicle, leaving the crew vulnerable to counterbattery fire. Western self-propelled guns like the M109 Paladin can stop, fire several rounds, and then be ready to move again in under two minutes.By continuously staying on the move and not relying on long barrages of stationary and sustained artillery fire, Ukrainian artillery batteries remain elusive and difficult to target with conventional counter battery fire. The sustained “artillery duel” Russia planned for has simply ceased to exist. Artillery crews of both sides now consider lengthy stationary artillery positions to be impossible to survive. Dispersion and positional fluidity are the new norms.
In essence, Ukrainian artillery breaks Russia’s kill chain by relocating before Russian artillery are prepared to engage. Ukrainian artillery have not similarly suffered for two reasons: precision munitions and DPICM shells (also known as cluster munitions).
Precision munitions radically reduce Ukraine’s need for “deployment” and “engagement” as part of its kill chain, providing a decisive advantage.
Precision munitions, like the 155mm Excalibur GPS guided shell, have a range of 50km, allowing Ukrainian guns to theoretically operate deep behind friendly lines, well outside the 20-25km range of Russian artillery. However, Ukraine is so confident in its ability to avoid Russian counterbattery fire, it chose to operate as close as 10km from the frontlines. allowing leaders to strike even deeper behind enemy lines if they so choose.
And of course, Ukraine frequently uses GMLRS rocket artillery’s 70km range to destroy Russian guns. Those rockets, launched from either HIMARS or M270 launchers, so badly outrange Russian weaponry that Ukraine has yet to lose a single confirmed launcher—despite being in theater since last June, over a year ago, and being one of Russia’s highest priority targets.
It is impossible for a Russian artillery gun to open fire without being in range of Ukrainian guns.
Furthermore, while Russian artillery must generally sustain a barrage for several minutes to bring sufficient weight of firepower on a target to destroy it (recall the moonscape picture shared above), Ukrainian artillery can quickly and effectively respond with small numbers of guided munitions to take out their opposing counterparts with ruthless accuracy. Not only are these strikes more precise (and require fewer shells), the engagement phase is merely the time to load and fire a single precision round—as little as 15-20 seconds.
As if things weren’t bad enough for Russia, the arrival of cluster munitions has made things even worse. Ukrainian artillery are making nearly constant use of cluster munitions shells against Russian soft targets (trucks, troops, trenches, anything without armor or concrete). A RUSI analysis showed that U.S. conventional shells required 13.6 rounds to obtain a hit, but a DPICM cluster munition—which scatters grenade-like bomblets over a wide area—could strike a target every 1.7 shells.
Thanks to the wide area of effect, a Ukrainian howitzer does not need to remain stationary for an extended period, firing 10-15 shells at a target to destroy it. It can stop, fire two DPICM cluster rounds, then relocate. And there are millions of those rounds in U.S. stocks.
The same way that precision munitions reduce the engagement time for Ukrainian artillery, DPICM shells improve both the deadliness of Ukrainian artillery, as well as reduce Russian opportunities for counterbattery fire.
Furthermore, improvements in Ukrainian counterbattery radar equipment have made their identification portion of the kill chain faster, and sustained targeting of Russian counter battery radar assets have degraded Russians’ ability to identify Ukrainian artillery assets in turn. Drones have further changed the game, both in identifying targets, and in striking them.
RUSSIAN COUNTERBATTERY FIRE HAS DWINDLED
The net effect of these developments has been a major Ukrainian advantage in the artillery war.Massive losses have forced a change in how Russia uses its artillery guns. Whereas pre-war doctrine placed brigade artillery assets 4km from the front, Russian artillery units now hide 15-20km behind the frontlines, advancing only for brief periods to conduct fire missions.
While this may improved the survivability of those Russian guns, their continued communication problems mean that Russian units on the contact line suffer from poorly timed and coordinated fire support.
It is now Ukrainian artillery that operate close to the frontlines with impunity, and Russian batteries that have largely been forced back to a safer distance.
Czech Viktor SHORAD Systems in service with the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Czech VIKTOR SHORAD System
Russian batteries are struggling to provide sufficient weight of fire on Ukrainian guns due to ammunition issues, leading Russian strongman Vladimir Putin to beg North Korea for artillery supplies, an international humiliation. Recent reports claim that Russia will double its annual production of artillery shells to 2 million, which sounds impressive—until you do some math and realize that amounts to less than 5,500 shells per day. It’s a pittance, given Russia’s doctrinal needs.RUSI noted an increasing and overwhelming reliance on Russian loitering munitions like the Lancet drones for a counterbattery role. In fact, drones have become one of the only ways left for Russia to fight back in the artillery war.
Still, Lancet drones and other loitering munitions are susceptible to electronic warfare countermeasures, or short-range air defenses like the Flakpanzer Gepard or the Viktor SHORAD system, providing inexpensive anti-drone firepower to protect key artillery assets. “Cope cages” made of chain-link can actually protect from much drone damage. And even when they hit, the smaller warheads mean that the chances of outright destroying the gun are far lower. Damaged systems can be towed to the rear and repaired.
Nonetheless, due to doctrinal shortcomings that have left Russia unprepared for this highly disperse, highly mobile artillery battlefield in Ukraine, Russian artillery commanders have been left with fewer and fewer effective alternatives in 2023.
A further problem for Russia is its loss of experienced artillery crews and battery commanders to counterbattery fire. Oryx has recorded over 1,000 lost Russian towed, self-propelled, and rocket artillery systems. And these are almost assuredly severely undercounted, as destroyed artillery guns aren’t as visible as frontline armor.
As such, it is fair to say that Russia has already lost thousands of trained artillery crews and officers. And given the poor to nonexistent training policies of the Russian army, it’s entirely doubtful that the artillery crews are being replaced with anything but inexperienced and poorly trained personnel, which may help explain friendly fire incidents such as this one:
Or this incident. Or this incident, or this incident.
These types of friendly fire incidents provide some of the most dramatic examples of poor Russian coordination and training, but ineffective fires or instances of poorly coordinated support likely represent a far more common form of Russian training issues in artillery.
Furthermore, there are persistent reports of Russian artillerymen being repurposed as cannon fodder infantry for commanders desperate to hold ground in the face of Ukrainian advances.
As Ukraine continues to severely degrade the Russian artillery corps—to the tune of 30-40 guns per day—its advantage is likely to only continue to grow. This is the end result, as relayed by a Russian on the front lines:
So the artillery doesn't help you?
Not that it doesn't help. The command does not allocate shells to them.
Are you promised help and support?
People die for nothing. People go one way and don't come back.
We work here in the same helmet. There is no interaction with anyone else. Everything happens very slowly; either the artillery does not shoot, or you have to wait for the shot for a very long time.
In fact, this Russian claimed that the artillery shortage is so severe, that Russian commanders are sending their artillerymen as storm infantry on the front lines.
Are there more losses?
We have twenty-five people leaving for the task, six are coming back. Our artillerymen have now stormed. They were told: you don't have any ammunition anyway, go as an infantry.
This isn’t the first time we’ve seen claims that Russian commanders are using artillerymen as cannon fodder to desperately hold onto ground in the face of advancing Ukrainian forces.
This degradation of Russian artillery will have a more dramatic impact on the eventual success of Ukraine’s counteroffensive than counting square kilometers thus far liberated.
It is also a fantastic example of how an institution can fail/be on its way to its final failure.
"Leadership" doesn't work.
External environment challenge A
Strategy doesn't work.
Systems don't work.
External environment challenge B
Processes don't work.
Individuals down on the factory floor, working in the trenches get the receiving end of all of the above.
Repeat.
Repeat.
Repeat.
Collapse.
The Ukrainians and Russians are fighting very different wars.
The Ukrainians are primarily fighting a war of military superiority. The Russians are attempting to fight a war primarily of political influence.
If the Ukrainians defeat the Russians in the field, they gain their independence and ensure their survival.
If the Russians erode western support, they complete their goal of genocide and expansion.
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