NFL 2021: The Week 9 thread

Paris Hilton? What is this, 2002?

Wow, the Titans just trashed the Rams after losing Derrick Henry. They're for real. Especially since this happened on the day the Bills lost to one of the worst teams in the league and the Ravens barely escaped with an OT win against a mediocre team. This is shaping up to be a really interesting postseason.

Fresno State chokes:

San Francisco chokes:

Jacksonville anti-chokes:

Los Angeles chokes:

Pink Stripes wrote:

Wow, the Titans just trashed the Rams after losing Derrick Henry. They're for real. Especially since this happened on the day the Bills lost to one of the worst teams in the league and the Ravens barely escaped with an OT win against a mediocre team. This is shaping up to be a really interesting postseason.

Give it a week. The Titans have plenty of "f*ck you, we aren't just Henry and the Titanettes" energy to win a game, but lets see how they look when they don't have him next week.

Stafford spotted them two pick sixes and then couldn’t figure out how to find the end zone if you sewed it in his jockstrap. That was a win the Colts needed because the rest of the Titans schedule looks like a glorified bye month. They can basically sleepwalk their way to a division title

Lamar Jackson is still 13-1 to win the league MVP, which puts him behind

Tom Brady
Josh Allen
Kyler Murray
Matthew Stafford
Dak Prescott
Aaron Rodgers

I am more than a little mystified by this.

The Cards handled their business against a division rival without Murray
Brady was on a bye and went up in the rankings
Stafford was the reason the Rams lost to a Titans team without Henry
Josh Allen got ROFLstomped by Josh Allen
and Dak Prescott lost to a Denver team a week after his backup beat the Vikings on the road

If you take Lamar off the Ravens for a week, the wheels fall off the cart. He was responsible for over 400 yards of offense and either passed or carried the ball on nearly 60 snaps.

This feels like the the greatest value bet in NFL history.

I was actually considering taking Lamar for MVP.

Just need to review the Ravens schedule + where Lamar sits counting stats wise currently.

Not sure how he's not even ahead of Rodgers, just won it. Is a clown. His YTD counting stats are meh. Did I mention he's an asshat?

Sadly if Brady just stuffs the stat sheet it's probably going to be him. I feel like if it's even close they would love to throw Brady one more MVP.

My Jonathan Taylor yards + Stafford yards is looking like they are in play.
Davante yards or receptions trending bad.
LaFleur coach of the year just took a hit.

Jonathan Taylor has an outside chance, but I don't think he's having enough of a great season to supplant a QB.

Paleocon wrote:

Lamar Jackson is still 13-1 to win the league MVP, which puts him behind

Tom Brady
Josh Allen
Kyler Murray
Matthew Stafford
Dak Prescott
Aaron Rodgers

I am more than a little mystified by this. ...

I think there's a tendency to want a shiny new penny when it comes to NFL MVPs. Jackson is just two years removed from winning one of these things, and Allen, Murray, Stafford and Prescott are still sitting at zero.

Besides, if Jackson wins two, then he enters the Manning/Brady/Rodgers tier of All-Time QBs. The betting lines suggest that lots of folks aren't yet ready to have that conversation.

I'm not saying that it's right or fair, however. Dude is balling out in a big way this year.

Paleocon wrote:

The Cards handled their business against a division rival without Murray
Brady was on a bye and went up in the rankings
Stafford was the reason the Rams lost to a Titans team without Henry
Josh Allen got ROFLstomped by Josh Allen
and Dak Prescott lost to a Denver team a week after his backup beat the Vikings on the road

The other four items in your list are probably the reasons why Brady moved up in the rankings on a bye week.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

Give it a week. The Titans have plenty of "f*ck you, we aren't just Henry and the Titanettes" energy to win a game, but lets see how they look when they don't have him next week.

Fair enough, but who else in the AFC has been more consistent than that? The answer is no longer the Bills.

Paleocon wrote:

Lamar Jackson is still 13-1 to win the league MVP, which puts him behind

Tom Brady
Josh Allen
Kyler Murray
Matthew Stafford
Dak Prescott
Aaron Rodgers

I am more than a little mystified by this.\

The league figured him out!

The Panthers' drives on Sunday (aka their record of futility)

3 plays, 1 yard*, punt
5 plays, 6 yards, punt
7 plays, 12 yards, FG**
3 plays, 3 yards, punt
6 plays, 3 yards, FG**
1 play, 5 yards, first half ends
3 plays, 4 yards, punt
8 plays, 64 yards, INT (pick 6)
6 plays, 22 yards, INT (Jamie Collins LOS pick)
8 plays, 61 yards, INT (end zone)
9 plays, 14 yards, turnover on downs

*net yards
** short field after Pats turnover

Woof.

Enix wrote:
Paleocon wrote:

Lamar Jackson is still 13-1 to win the league MVP, which puts him behind

Tom Brady
Josh Allen
Kyler Murray
Matthew Stafford
Dak Prescott
Aaron Rodgers

I am more than a little mystified by this. ...

I think there's a tendency to want a shiny new penny when it comes to NFL MVPs. Jackson is just two years removed from winning one of these things, and Allen, Murray, Stafford and Prescott are still sitting at zero.

Besides, if Jackson wins two, then he enters the Manning/Brady/Rodgers tier of All-Time QBs. The betting lines suggest that lots of folks aren't yet ready to have that conversation.

I'm not saying that it's right or fair, however. Dude is balling out in a big way this year.

I think that might be part of it. I think another part is that folks are simply in disbelief that this level of play is at all sustainable and that it is only a matter of time before he regresses to a perceived mean. The fact that we are now on the cusp of week ten though should be at least enough to move the needle though.

Taven Bryan, the defensive tackle whom the Jaguars drafted when they passed on Lamar Jackson, had 2 sacks this week.

He's had 3.5 sacks in his career to that point.

I bring this up only because Taven Bryan actually doing something on the football field reminded me that Taven Bryan exists, which just reminded me of who the Jaguars passed on in order to draft him.

If Lamar Jackson isn't MVP the only other reasonable option is Justin Tucker at this point.

Considering the Ravens injury status, those 2 guys are carrying an insane load and winning games.

*Legion* wrote:

Taven Bryan, the defensive tackle whom the Jaguars drafted when they passed on Lamar Jackson, had 2 sacks this week.

He's had 3.5 sacks in his career to that point.

I bring this up only because Taven Bryan actually doing something on the football field reminded me that Taven Bryan exists, which just reminded me of who the Jaguars passed on in order to draft him.

As a Ravens fan, I can't flex too hard. We passed on him too in favor of Hayden Hurst.

I keep running into people who keep saying "Lamar Jackson can't throw" and wonder if they even watch football.

I wish my qb couldn't throw like Lamar. Baker, a second, and ... oh.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

I wish my qb couldn't throw like Lamar. Baker, a second, and ... oh.

I'd add "bj" to that sentence, but, uh, guessing even you aren't enough of a Browns fan to do that to get Lamar.

The irony is that it is mostly Steeler fans I know who are saying it.

Ben R

CMP % 65.1
Yards 1,781
TD 8
INT 4
Rating 87.6

Lamar J

CMP % 65.0
Yards 2,209
TD 13
INT 7
Rating 96.2

Kareem drops the hammer on Karon

His lies, his illogical defense, and his hubris damage all professional athletes.

One of the few Raider picks that wasn't from the 2019 Alabama/Clemson CFP championship game.

Probably not by design: Atlanta sniped Clemson cornerback A.J. Terrell three picks before the Raiders took Arnette. Terrell was a very popular mock draft pick for the Raiders.

Paleocon wrote:

I keep running into people who keep saying "Lamar Jackson can't throw"

It's true though. Lamar Jackson can't throw.

He only knows how to play with maximum effort. Intentionally sandbagging to lose a game is not in his character.

hmm, no Manning-cast tonight. Guess I have no reason to watch outside of maybe to see how my dynasty QB fares.

Where are Peyton and Eli? These guys are terrible, at this rate I would take Tirico and Kornheiser, or even JR and The King.

I can't help but think that the Raiders would be a Super Bowl frontrunner if their DE and CB picks they made in the 1st were worthwhile picks and not major whiffs.

Ruggs wasn't a fave of mine, but at least he was kinda OK.

Instead they're winning games despite the lack of 1st round talent on the team.

Just imagine if Chucky wasn't so damn clever.

Are my eyes and/or competing fandoms playing tricks on me, or does the player name font for Pittsburgh's jersey look like the credits from the original Star Trek?