[Discussion] Haiti and the assassination of Jovenel Moïse

Jovenel Moïse's assassination and related and surrounding topics (i.e. the political climate in Haiti, the criminal investigation, etc.).

So I have not been keeping up with this story, other than it is weird that a modern day head of state was assassinated in his home. Some googling said he refused to hold elections and his opponents were calling for him to step down. Now various outlets are reporting a chase and a connection to a Florida man (well, a Haitian national living in FL).

Can someone catch me up, and maybe we can use this thread going forward for continued discussion.

There's still a ton of disinfo floating around, so it's tough to know exactly who ordered this and why. It's clear that many are more than happy to jump on the "America did it" bandwagon without seeming to ever give a clear why.

garion333 wrote:

There's still a ton of disinfo floating around, so it's tough to know exactly who ordered this and why. It's clear that many are more than happy to jump on the "America did it" bandwagon without seeming to ever give a clear why.

Probably because the op was run through a private security firm that was based in Florida, there were two American citizens arrested with the group, and at least two other assassins showing up as paid confidential informants for the DEA and FBI. (The DEA bit is of interest because there are reports that the assassins were able to get close to Moïse by screaming that the were with the DEA.)

The Haitian Americans are claiming that the assassins were only trying to pull a Michigan and just arrest Moïse.

A lead suspect in Haiti, Christian Emmanuel Sanon, is saying that he was contacted by people claiming to represent the U.S. State and Justice departments who wanted to install him as president. The outstanding question is whether Sanon was the mastermind or just a patsy for other forces.

Here's an account from his wife.

“In the blink of an eye, the mercenaries entered my home and riddled my husband with bullets … without even giving him a chance to say a word,” she said in the audio message.

When it comes to Haiti I am willing to entertain just about any possibility. As far as US involvement, well, mercenaries are gonna mercenary regardless of citizenship status.

imbiginjapan wrote:

When it comes to Haiti I am willing to entertain just about any possibility. As far as US involvement, well, mercenaries are gonna mercenary regardless of citizenship status.

True. They'll follow the objectives of whoever paid them.

So... who paid them?

OG_slinger wrote:
garion333 wrote:

There's still a ton of disinfo floating around, so it's tough to know exactly who ordered this and why. It's clear that many are more than happy to jump on the "America did it" bandwagon without seeming to ever give a clear why.

Probably because the op was run through a private security firm that was based in Florida, there were two American citizens arrested with the group, and at least two other assassins showing up as paid confidential informants for the DEA and FBI. (The DEA bit is of interest because there are reports that the assassins were able to get close to Moïse by screaming that the were with the DEA.)

Oh, I get that, I simply meant the US government is being blamed and I simply don't see anyone giving a great reason why we'd assassinate him.

garion333 wrote:

Oh, I get that, I simply meant the US government is being blamed and I simply don't see anyone giving a great reason why we'd assassinate him.

Do we need one?

Mixolyde wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Oh, I get that, I simply meant the US government is being blamed and I simply don't see anyone giving a great reason why we'd assassinate him.

Do we need one?

Well, I think they mean is there oil there.

The article wrote:

Capador said she knew almost nothing about the employer but shared a picture of her brother in a uniform emblazoned with the logo of CTU Security

For f*ck's sake, Jack Bauer.

Miami Herald: Colombian president says commandos knew they were on mission to murder Haiti’s Moïse:

Breaking a relative silence on the events in Haiti, President Duque told La FM radio in Colombia that his administration is providing good leads in the investigation to the middle-of-the-night assassination inside Moïse’s private residence in the hills above Port-au-Prince. His wife, first lady Martine Moïse, was wounded and is currently recovering at a Miami hospital. No one else, including any of the president’s 23-member security detail that night, was killed or apparently shot.

“Everything suggests that an important group of persons arrived in Haiti on a ‘blind hook,’ taken on a supposed protection mission and … a smaller group apparently had detailed information about the criminal operation and the intention to kill the president of Haiti,” Duque said.

The Colombian president revealed that one soldier — who was present in Haiti and returned to Colombia — has given testimony for the assassination’s investigation. Haitian authorities said 26 Colombians were involved in the armed assault; three were killed.

Duque’s revelations came on the same morning that Colombian National Police Chief Gen. Jorge Luis Vargas Valencia held a news conference that was equally explosive. Highlights of his presentation were tweeted out from his Twitter account.

Three more Colombians are being sought in connection with the assassination, Vargas said, in addition to the three “neutralized,” or dead, and 18 captured. He did not reveal their names, but said the three had met with Christian Emmanuel Sanon, a Haitian doctor from South Florida who is in custody in Port-au-Prince and has been called one of the alleged “intellectual authors” of the killing.

Vargas also shed light on the leadership of the group that traveled to Haiti through the Dominican Republic. He said a former army captain, Germán Alejandro Rivera García, was wired $50,000 from the United States. He did not say by whom, although Haitian authorities, in a news conference late Wednesday, identified both the Doral security company’s owner and a South Florida lender, Walter Vientemilla, as persons of interest. Neither man returned phone calls Thursday afternoon.

The Colombian police chief did not say whether Rivera actually was in Haiti or whether he is the ex-soldier who returned home and is cooperating with the investigation. Vargas also identified as one of the group’s leaders Duberney Capador, a Colombian killed in a firefight with Haitian police during the manhunt for Moïse’s killers.

Vargas said Capador entered Haiti via the Dominican Republic on May 10, months before the assassination. Capador’s sister has told Colombian media she believes her brother was tricked.