2021/22 Soccer Thread: It's Euro 2020 until it becomes 2021

Tasty Pudding wrote:

Not really, actually. England fans do the same thing - glorifying Beckham's goal against Greece in 2001, Platt against Belgium in 1990, beating the Netherlands in 1996, etc. .

Please don’t mention the Dutch game. That dribbly Kluivert shot through Seaman’s legs to make it 4-1 and out Scotland out still haunts me. Putting Ally Mccoists single goal scored from outside the box in his whole career to waste.

Tasty Pudding wrote:

Not really, actually. England fans do the same thing - glorifying Beckham's goal against Greece in 2001, Platt against Belgium in 1990, beating the Netherlands in 1996, etc. .

That game against the Netherlands though in '96 - it remains the only time I've seen an England team completely outclass a side who were their equals (if not better) with ease and confidence and beat them easily. The 5-1 against Germany doesn't really count, as Germany were far from their best then, the same for the 2-0 victory in the Euros.

Beckham's goal was all about the moment and someone stepping up when everything was on the line.

Liverpool and Manchester United heading for Bangkok – at a big cost

Pre-season tours are back next month, with Liverpool and Manchester United bringing a taste of north-west England to south-east Asia. “For this part of the world, these are the two single biggest football clubs – we couldn’t get anything bigger,” Marcus Luer, the CEO of Total Sports Asia, who brokered the deal to bring the teams to Thailand, says. “This is the biggest match ever in Asia – the revenue will be the highest in Asia.”

The rivals meet in ‘The Match: Bangkok Century Cup’ on 12 July at the Rajamangala Stadium, one of Asia’s iconic arenas, where the best way to arrive is to take a motorbike taxi from the closest station and weave in and out of the traffic in the Thai capital with thousands of fellow fans. If that offers a thrilling taste of Thai football culture, the price of entry would make even Premier League fans in England wince, notwithstanding the promotors Fresh Air Festival putting on a pre-match appearance from the K-Pop star Jackson Wang. The cheapest tickets at the 51,000-capacity venue are 5,000 baht (£115), about 60 times more than fans pay to get into Thai Premier League matches, and most cost considerably more.

“I don’t make enough money to spend 10,000 baht on a football match,” the local Liverpool fan Thesis Laohajarastsang says. “Prices are too high as the average salary here is around 30,000 baht per month. I understand the cost of hosting the event is up in the tens or hundreds of millions range, but most Thai football fans cannot afford to attend the match. I feel for the diehards who will be forced to watch the game on television.”

European teams have often been guilty of overstating their popularity across Asia but Thailand is a country where Liverpool and Manchester United do have considerable and long-established support desperate to take this rare opportunity to see their heroes play their rivals. “I am more than excited as it has been nine years since Man United came to do a pre-season in Thailand, and every time they came, they would be playing a Thailand team,” says Warunthorn Somkitrungroj. “But this time it’s Man United against their all-time rival, Liverpool. I don’t know when I will have a chance to watch the game with my own eyes like this.”

Whatever it takes, this United fan will be there. “I’ll take a day off from work, I’ll drag myself to the game even if I’m sick. I need to witness and be a part of this historic red war in Asia.” She admits the prices are steep but says it could be worse. “It’s way cheaper than flying to England to watch the game as the visa fee alone will almost be as much as a ticket, then there is the plane ticket, hotels and the game ticket that comes at a high price with a low chance to get.”

I mean, they are truly, truly the die-hards, because they're up for this like it's a real derby and not a pre-season friendly whose major goal is to get the players fit for the new season and will likely be missing several stars.

Wales, Golf, Los Angeles.

In that order.

bbk1980 wrote:
Tasty Pudding wrote:

Not really, actually. England fans do the same thing - glorifying Beckham's goal against Greece in 2001, Platt against Belgium in 1990, beating the Netherlands in 1996, etc. .

Please don’t mention the Dutch game. That dribbly Kluivert shot through Seaman’s legs to make it 4-1 and out Scotland out still haunts me. Putting Ally Mccoists single goal scored from outside the box in his whole career to waste.

Please don't mention the Platt game I was only 8 at the time, and with my parents hating soccer never saw the game... but even they were disappointed! Belgium reached the semi's in 1986 based on a solid defense and a healthy dose of luck, but in '90 we played our best soccer until arguably the 2108 WC. We dominated the English as well until Platt went all ice bucket challenge on our hopes and dreams Or at least that's our narrative

Prederick wrote:

Wales, Golf, Los Angeles.

In that order.

I'm already planning my return to watching the Dynamo in person for when LAFC comes to town.

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I'm sure we all had this landing in LA, right?

Arsenal trying to pull me back in with an active transfer flurry.

Fabio Vieira already in.
Gabriel Jesus agreed to but not confirmed officially. (Cornering the Gabriel market also)
Raphinha rumoured, Edu is all in grabbing Brazilians.

Jesus is 25. He feels like he's been at City for ages that he would be older. For a team that was so poor scoring last year it's a pretty exciting signing even if you are taking City's hand me downs. Automatic upgrade for Arsenal that can play in Artetas system and at 25 if he has any room left to grow there's that possibility also? I can't complain.

Vieira is also exciting but it could take some time to still adjust.

Raphinha would be the icing as he already has Prem experience and is also 25.

You’ve apparently given Jesus a 5 year contract. Madness. I don’t think he’ll be any better for you than Nketia is now.

I'm not sure if that's a compliment to Eddie Nketiah or an insult to Gabriel Jesus.

I personally don't really rate Nketiah. Already 23 and hasn't really broken into the squad to demand playing time. Second half of last year he became default by lack of any real options.

And not to confuse things it's not that I think Jesus is amazing but when you have no options a player with Prem experience with 159 apps and 58 goals is a start. (stats are for all City competitions).

Jesus could be a nice holdover until Arsenal find some actual world class players. So pretty much the exact same role he served at City.

jowner wrote:

Arsenal trying to pull me back in with an active transfer flurry.

Fabio Vieira already in.
Gabriel Jesus agreed to but not confirmed officially. (Cornering the Gabriel market also)
Raphinha rumoured, Edu is all in grabbing Brazilians.

Not sure if you know that already, but Fábio is Portuguese, not Brazillian.

Prederick wrote:

Wales, Golf, Los Angeles.

In that order.

“I love going to Los Angeles on holiday,” chirped Gareth Bale in 2020. “I play a lot of golf. I’ve played Pebble [Beach] a couple of times. I played Cypress Point which is a private members’ club which is next to Pebble Beach – that was probably the best course I’ve ever played so far.” Thankfully his latest sojourn to the west coast will allow him to tick off a few more of California’s glorious greens and play the odd football match.

I WAS MAKING A JOKE GARETH

“As of 26 June, LAFC’s fan subreddit has already made available a user flair which uses emoji to signify ‘Wales, Golf, LAFC, in that order’. This is what radical acceptance looks like, folks” – Harriet Osborn.
slazev wrote:
jowner wrote:

Arsenal trying to pull me back in with an active transfer flurry.

Fabio Vieira already in.
Gabriel Jesus agreed to but not confirmed officially. (Cornering the Gabriel market also)
Raphinha rumoured, Edu is all in grabbing Brazilians.

Not sure if you know that already, but Fábio is Portuguese, not Brazillian.

I did.

Watched him play a bunch for the Portugal youth teams. Exciting player, TBD if his game translates to England. I'll give him a long leash to adjust develop but Arsenal will need some more now players.

More was reference to Edu having Brazilian connections.

Remember when Willian was on Arsenal for some random reason? I do and I'm trying to forget it. He was actually ok but it still didn't really make any sense.

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I mean, credit to PSG, that must've been a really tough negotiation.

Semi automated offside?

I wonder of all the sports maybe Soccer (also hockey at times) will need to adjust the rules to accommodate for technology.

I'm 100% fine with goal line technology. Nice to know if the the ball actually crossed the line.

Offside? I don't care if they speed it up to instant. Getting so granular that a persons thumb was offside is not entertainment for me. Maybe I'm in the minority but I don't see the benefit in an already low scoring sport to get even more safe with disallowing goals.

Woo, and indeed, Hoo!

Liverpool’s most important signing of the pre-season.

Neymar to Chelsea?

Put me on team "Neymar to literally any English club other than perhaps Man City is a disaster waiting to happen."

He'd instantly become the most hated player in the PL, wherever he goes.

I mean, you can't blame ManU for trying to hold on to Ronaldo, he was literally one of the only two competent things on the team last season.

All of that said, I mean, we can say definitely now that the Glazers' ownership of ManU has been an unmitigated disaster, yes?

Prederick wrote:

I mean, you can't blame ManU for trying to hold on to Ronaldo, he was literally one of the only two competent things on the team last season.

All of that said, I mean, we can say definitely now that the Glazers' ownership of ManU has been an unmitigated disaster, yes?

Fans aren’t happy, no trophy for 5 years, and no apparent coherent plan. It does not look good for them nor do they look like selling up….

Prederick wrote:

I mean, you can't blame ManU for trying to hold on to Ronaldo, he was literally one of the only two competent things on the team last season.

All of that said, I mean, we can say definitely now that the Glazers' ownership of ManU has been an unmitigated disaster, yes?

ESPN understands that Chelsea, Bayern Munich and Napoli, among other clubs, are interested in adding Ronaldo

Bayern would be pretty funny. Would be automatic title giving him domestic titles the 4 major leagues. I dunno if that has been done. If it has I'd assume it's pretty obscure random pub trivia answer.

I see Ligue 1 has been downgraded. Guess Carlo's not as impressive.

Also, CR7's rumored reason is UCL play, and frankly, I get it. Ronaldo gave them a season of Europa League, and they f*cked that up. Even at this point, he is a player with the pedigree and the ability that he can reasonably be like "I'm here to play in the Champions League, and if you're not playing in it, I'm not here."

I'm reading that Leeds has added Tyler Adams to their already impressive selection of Americans.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

I'm reading that Leeds has added Tyler Adams to their already impressive selection of Americans.

He's going to keep following Jesse Marsch around.

Bielsa would've LOVED him.

Eriksen to ManU = Probably good, although I'm not sure why he's joining that shambles right now.

Standing back at Wembley!

Also, we should not forget to mention that Euro 2022 starts Wednesday.

(The funniest possible outcome would be England losing in the exact same manner.)

Also, an as-of-yet unnamed PL star has been accused of rape.

Prederick wrote:

Also, an as-of-yet unnamed PL star has been accused of rape.

A leading Premier League footballer arrested on suspicion of rape has been further arrested on suspicion of two incidents of rape against a different woman.

The player has been released on bail until August by the Metropolitan police after questioning and inquiries are ongoing.

The 29-year-old, who is a high-profile member of his side but is not being named for legal reasons, was arrested in the early hours of Monday at his north London home on suspicion of an offence alleged to have occurred last month. The two further allegations pertain to dates in April 2021 and June 2021.

A statement from Scotland Yard read: “On 4 July, an allegation of rape of a woman in her 20s was reported to police. It was reported the alleged rape happened in June 2022. On 4 July, a 29-year-old man was arrested at an address in Barnet on suspicion of rape and taken into custody.

“While in custody, he was further arrested on suspicion of two incidents of rape that were alleged to have been committed in April and June of 2021 against a different woman in her 20s. He has subsequently been released on bail to a date in August. Enquiries into the circumstances are ongoing.”

The player’s status in his club’s pre-season preparations is unclear.

UK friends, is the word out on who this might be quite yet? The "lives in north London" part may have narrowed it down a bit. At least one of the possibilities is... uh... pretty jaw-dropping.

Not yet. There is one mention of Lucas Moura, but I wouldn't pin anything on anyone at this stage. All that's being said it that he is in his 20's, and has been charged with two further counts...