NFL 2021: The preseasoning

iaintgotnopants wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Buccaneers legend Josh

I got to this point and was very surprised that the post didn't have a picture. Then I saw the last name and was disappointed.

I bet if we tallied up every post in this whole forum referencing someone named Freeman, Josh would give Gordon a run for his money.

It'd be the only running Josh ever did, granted.

*Legion* wrote:
iaintgotnopants wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Buccaneers legend Josh

I got to this point and was very surprised that the post didn't have a picture. Then I saw the last name and was disappointed.

I bet if we tallied up every post in this whole forum referencing someone named Freeman, Josh would give Gordon a run for his money.

It'd be the only running Josh ever did, granted.

Gordon will show up in Half-Life 3 right around the time Josh appears in another NFL game.

The right man

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in the wrong place

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can make all the difference in the world

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Here's something lovely: Football Outsiders has put together its Anti-Dynasty rankings.

The TL,DR: FO uses lots of maths to pull together what it calls "a very silly idea": ranking the worst franchises over a period of years.

The first batch of rankings (No. 51-57) are out now. The Niners (1973 to 1980) are on there along with the late 70s Chiefs and the pre-Barry Sanders Lions (1984 to 1990).

Five teams (Ravens, Panthers (!), Seahawks, Dolphins and Vikings) don't appear in FO's rankings. They had this to say about the Vikes:

... (the Vikings are the) franchise that has existed the longest without ever being truly terrible. ... More so than any other franchise, the Vikings have just never been very bad for very long. They have only had five seasons with more than 10 losses in their history. They're not terrible — they're heartbreaking, or disappointing, or underachieving, however you want to think about it. If this were a list of the most agonizing teams in history (note to self, possible list for next year), the Vikings would be at or near the very top. But if you don't care much for postseason success, and just want your team to win more often than they lose, year-in and year-out, the Vikings are the team for you. My God have mercy on your soul.

I'll have to dive into that link but no Seahawks!? Not even the Tom Flores Seahawks when Rick Mirer was the..."quarter...back?"?

Very disappointed that the 2008-2020 Jaguars missed the top 10 somehow.

Enix wrote:

The Niners (1973 to 1980) are on there

Yeah, that window between the end of John Brodie's career and the beginning of the Montana/Walsh years was rough. Granted I wasn't alive for any of it, but it's this black hole in 49ers history. Plunkett before he got to LA/OAK and actually got good, Steve DeBerg's first few years of his long journeyman career, and Spurrier, one of the now 4 QBs that the 49ers have spent #3 overall picks on (YA Tittle in 1951, John Brodie in 1957, Spurrier in 1976, and Trey Lance).

*Legion* wrote:
iaintgotnopants wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

Buccaneers legend Josh

I got to this point and was very surprised that the post didn't have a picture. Then I saw the last name and was disappointed.

I bet if we tallied up every post in this whole forum referencing someone named Freeman, Josh would give Gordon a run for his money.

It'd be the only running Josh ever did, granted.

Be right back.....

Edit: There are 638 instances of the reference "Josh" in the forums.

The fact the Vikings don't show up in the Anti-Dynasty lists and the Bucs show up three separate times is pretty funny. I mean, not to Vikings fans, but, based on many conversations, they really do expect failure in the end.

Top_Shelf wrote:

I'll have to dive into that link but no Seahawks!? Not even the Tom Flores Seahawks when Rick Mirer was the..."quarter...back?"?

Looks like Seattle had just one awful season (2-14 in 1992) surrounded by a ton of mediocre seasons. The Seahawks won between 6 and 9 games a season every year from 1985 to 2002 except for two. (There were 10-win and 2-win seasons in there.)

That's the very definition of mediocrity, which my Panthers have for pretty much their entire existence. Sad thing is, I'd be thrilled if Carolina won 8 games this year.

Enix wrote:

Sad thing is, I'd be thrilled if Carolina won 8 games this year.

That would indeed be uncharted territory for Darnold.

Five bucks says my team is in the top spot, and in the top 10 at least twice.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

Five bucks says my team is in the top spot, and in the top 10 at least twice.

Ha ha! You are wrong!

They're only there once, because the entire 1999-2019 stretch is one single run of futility. Last in their division 15 times in that span. 15!

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

They're only there once, because the entire 1999-2019 stretch is one single run of futility.

Damn, that is brutal.

I bet if they did like Gretzky in fantasy hockey, and split them into two, the two would still have ranked near the top.

They’d be one and two.

Good interview with Lavonte David regarding Brady coming to the Bucs. Anything that gets Lavonte more press is a good thing, maybe he'll finally get the recognition he deserves.

I bet the Bucs have 2 or 3 in the top 5 worst year teams.

Watched a bit of Spring League football on Fox today. Generals vs Sea Lions.

Wow...

I straight up didn't know that was going on.

Looked up highlights on YouTube. It's apparently five weeks into the season.

Also, team names; Alphas? Linemen? Jousters? Why?

Yeah I googled and apparently it's been a thing since 2017 but mostly for scouts to watch. Fox Sports picked up the TV contract this year.

Stele wrote:

Yeah I googled and apparently it's been a thing since 2017 but mostly for scouts to watch. Fox Sports picked up the TV contract this year.

Yeah, previously it was more like the Senior Bowl: teams thrown together for exhibition games for talent demonstration purposes.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Also, team names; Alphas? Linemen? Jousters? Why?

Imagine being a professional sports team and calling yourselves the "Blues". So dumb.

So, I'm looking through the rosters, and there's a very low recognition factor. Still, here is my guide on why to cheer for each team:

ALPHAS
RB Brian Burt, FRESNO STATE

AVIATORS
WR Delvon Hardaway, FRESNO STATE

CONQUERORS
Head coach Jerry Glanville
WR Vinny Papale, son of "Invincible" Vince Papale
CB Prince Charles Iworah, former 49ers 6th round pick

LINEMEN
*shrug*

BLUES
DL Dwayne Wallace from Cal (you're welcome Carlbear)

JOUSTERS
Head coach Kevin *punch* Gilbride
QB Luis Perez, our AAF favorite
K Ricky Aguayo, brother of Roberto

GENERALS
QB Ryan Mallett
DE Ethan Westbrooks, former Rams edge rusher

SEA LIONS
K Garrett Hartley, Super Bowl winning kicker for the Saints back in 2008.

Obviously, the Jousters have to be the official GWJ NFL thread team.

Sounds like no salary retention is involved, which probably is what won it for Tennessee. And now Tennessee has to do a bunch of restructuring to fit him.

Somehow I don't know if Julio is going to love that ball control, near-league-bottom-in-pass-attempts Titan offense.

Jerry Glanville is still alive?!

I am actually relieved that all the Julio to Baltimore talk is over and he ended up going someplace else. That would have demolished our cap maneuverability with so many folks coming off rookie contracts next year. Jones is a hell of a WR, but I found most of the talk about him being the final piece we needed for a deep playoff run to be way overblown.

Aaron Rodgers now expected to hold out from mandatory minicamp.

Green Bay's current strategy of ignoring the problem doesn't seem to be working out so far.

*Legion* wrote:

Aaron Rodgers now expected to hold out from mandatory minicamp.

Green Bay's current strategy of ignoring the problem doesn't seem to be working out so far.

I'm not sure if GB is ignoring it at this point. There's not really much to do. I haven't exactly seen any solutions being proposed.

Did anyone tell him that Devin Funchess is back? Like come on!

I would work out more if someone would pay me $500,000 to do it.

jowner wrote:

I'm not sure if GB is ignoring it at this point. There's not really much to do. I haven't exactly seen any solutions being proposed.

The choices are pretty simple.

Option 1: Trade him

Option 2: Negotiate big contract extension (and probably trade Jordan Love)

Option 3: Do nothing and hope for a better Option 3 to magically materialize << we are here

Rodgers either wants the commitment from the team or he wants to leave. Expecting him to accept any other outcome is a severe misreading of Aaron Rodgers, IMO. Like, expecting him not to be stubborn on this? Have they met their QB before? He's dug in, and absolutely nothing in the past 16 years of Aaron Rodgers behavior suggests he's likely to cave in.