Valheim - Valhallall, Meadhallall, Shieldwallall

Carlbear95 wrote:

Not knowing anything, I sort of just built on top of a broken house in the environment near where I started. But after wandering and doing stuff, I found this nice meadow area with a water view and figured I'd go there. The ground wasn't flat but I think I did more harm than good trying to fix it with the hoe :)

The hoe becomes pretty useful later on, and you'll get the hang of using it to level ground.

Carlbear95 wrote:

I think at this early point, I'm just going to have to live with "my house doesn't have 4 level walls" for now. I think in retrospect I would have built a few smaller buildings in a camp than trying to build a single big house, but a) Its not hard to just break it down and start over b) at least this early on I'm not too worried about just having one side of my house open to the elements As long as the roof is closed (which is also a bit harder than it should be), I think its ok.

I know this feeling, had the same problem at first. One word - foundations. Don't start by building the walls, or even the floors. Lay out a grid of beams on the ground. Use the hoe to level out big humps or depressions as needed. Put the floor and the walls on the beams. This guarantees level walls, and makes your roofing problems much easier as well.

Pointing at the sides of walls and roofs while building is I think the best way to get evenness. Roofs especially can be tough. I see a lot of videos of builders trying to point pixel-perfect at the tops of walls over and over again when they can just point at the side of the wall next to it (you still have to get that pixel perfect placement once, or stand on something to see the top) Snapping is pretty generous when you can see the surface you want to attach to.

I only get uneven walls when I hold shift while building to freely place something. It pretty much always comes out looking bad but I understand this is how folks come out with the most creative stuff.

First time on a raft, horrendous. Completely stuck in the middle of a channel, there is wind but whichever way I try to steer I just don't move.

kborom wrote:

First time on a raft, horrendous. Completely stuck in the middle of a channel, there is wind but whichever way I try to steer I just don't move.

You're probably bottoming out on a rock or a bit of raised ground that wasn't visible with the waves.

kborom wrote:

20 hours in solo and it feels sort of empty. Only trolls are an issue.
I am not sure where I should make my base so have several small ones but see that the 2nd boss is miles away. Guess I should keep with the strategy and work toward the next boss.

Have you discovered/visited different biomes?

I'll say I'm sure that more things will get added down the line. The mountains couls use some dungeons, etc. I think the game can give a lot of fun for its alpha state.

karmajay wrote:
kborom wrote:

20 hours in solo and it feels sort of empty. Only trolls are an issue.
I am not sure where I should make my base so have several small ones but see that the 2nd boss is miles away. Guess I should keep with the strategy and work toward the next boss.

Have you discovered/visited different biomes?

I'll say I'm sure that more things will get added down the line. The mountains couls use some dungeons, etc. I think the game can give a lot of fun for its alpha state.

Not sure, how can you tell?

I was on what I thought was a starting island but explored the very nearby ones and they were identical in feature and from what I could see, level. This is the first time I've jumped on a raft and tried to get somewhere I couldn't see, worked out well for me!

I definitely second "Build foundations/frames first" for all of your buildings. I wouldn't even level out the ground at all, because it's so much harder to judge how much to do that, while you can easily see if your frame snaps together or whether you need to raise/lower the ground. Unless you collect 300 stone and make a whole new flat ground, higher than the existing ground.

Also, (after a LOT of building) things seem to "snap in" much faster and easier if you are slightly above them, so it's also really helpful to build ladder/mini-platform scaffolding on the outside of where you're trying to build, and temporary flooring on the outside at ceiling level, to hop around on. It's really easy to knock all the temporary stuff down when you're done, so build lots of ugly extra bits to stand on for a good view.

Keep in mind, also, that regular wood makes one kind of basic frame for housing, while there's another kind of wood that's a definite upgrade (and you can build much taller structures).

Spoiler:

If you go to just the edge of the Black Forest, while your technology level is still wood/flint, you can chop down the really tall pine trees with even a stone axe. These will provide core wood, which seriously helps construction. And you can run away if any Black Forest stuff gets too close to you.

Also, bear in mind, the raft is pretty awful at controls. The Karve (next tier boat) controls much more easily, as well as having 4 storage spots for bringing home gear you grab in your travels.

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Karve

Thanks for the building tips.. I'll definitely do the foundation beams for Carlbear Town v2.0. For now it'll just have to remain a bit drafty in the ole level 1 long house

One of the things I love about this game: It gives you all of the materials back when you destroy a building piece with the hammer, and it does that fast!

My first build (crappy, lots to learn), became my second (nicer, using a sturdy frame), which then became my third (stone foundation and first story) without losing any materials. This included destroying furniture and crafting setups to rebuild them.

The way I kept all my early builds in line is to lay one piece of flooring down on the highest piece of ground, then snap all the other flooring pieces to the first, expanding from there, always snapping to an existing floor piece. I would then place one wall on the floor then attach all other wall pieces to another wall. It seems to have worked out well for unleveled ground.

The snapping works best when you are working at the proper angle for a piece. Floors have trouble snapping when you are looking down, walls and ceilings when you are looking up.

My (not-very-)longhouse (7x5 with a steep roof that touches the ground) is sorely in need of a remodel, but I've been irrationally putting it off until I get access to stone masonry.

kborom wrote:
karmajay wrote:
kborom wrote:

20 hours in solo and it feels sort of empty. Only trolls are an issue.
I am not sure where I should make my base so have several small ones but see that the 2nd boss is miles away. Guess I should keep with the strategy and work toward the next boss.

Have you discovered/visited different biomes?

I'll say I'm sure that more things will get added down the line. The mountains couls use some dungeons, etc. I think the game can give a lot of fun for its alpha state.

Not sure, how can you tell?

I was on what I thought was a starting island but explored the very nearby ones and they were identical in feature and from what I could see, level. This is the first time I've jumped on a raft and tried to get somewhere I couldn't see, worked out well for me!

The biome is listed in the top corner of the map. You start in Meadows. Trolls are usually in the Black Forest. The Black Forest has troll caves and dungeons called burial crypts(?). That biome is also where you find copper and tin to start upgrading your gear.

Sigh. I was way out there on the island with the merchant on it, having slain the T2 boss, and was way down south and encountered the Plains. I figured, hmm, that's probably too dangerous for me, but let's retreat into the forest and build a tiny forward base, so I can build a bed and a portal and then go poke my nose in a little and see if I can survive.

Well, I didn't go far enough back, and chopping trees pulled in some little jerks from the plains. I was able to kill the fire-wielder (who sets you on fire even if you block him), but the little dude with the club just wrecked me. Blew through my shield block and killed me.

Man, what a damn hike I'd have to do to get my stuff. In a solo world, I'd have to build a new boat and gradually stage myself there, but I think I'll use the merchant portal and try running naked through the dark forest on that island to see if I can get that far.

I'm on a multiplayer server, might as well take advantage.

I also answered my fundamental question, quite painfully: "Can I sneak out and explore the Plains?" The answer is NO.

I hate that going in water unequips your weapon and shield. So many times I’m hunting something or running from a pack of enemies and for a split second I go into too deep water and then I’m swinging my fists.

Managed to slay the first boss on my first attempt. Moved on to exploring the Black Forest and found a burial crypt almost instantly. Right behind that was a greydwarf spawner. Managed to take it all out. Haven't found any copper and tin yet but did mark another skeleton infested area on my map.

Congratz, Vector. I'm still in the Black Forest stage, on purpose, figuring out every item I can make (especially cooking...), all the building stuff possible, all the bronze, copper, tin, burial chambers.... Depends if you want to explore (Completionest Style (tm)) or advance up the tech tree quickly. Even in early access, I've found...dozens of hours of stuff to do at Black Forest/Bronze Age level.

karmajay wrote:
kborom wrote:
karmajay wrote:
kborom wrote:

20 hours in solo and it feels sort of empty. Only trolls are an issue.
I am not sure where I should make my base so have several small ones but see that the 2nd boss is miles away. Guess I should keep with the strategy and work toward the next boss.

Have you discovered/visited different biomes?

I'll say I'm sure that more things will get added down the line. The mountains couls use some dungeons, etc. I think the game can give a lot of fun for its alpha state.

Not sure, how can you tell?

I was on what I thought was a starting island but explored the very nearby ones and they were identical in feature and from what I could see, level. This is the first time I've jumped on a raft and tried to get somewhere I couldn't see, worked out well for me!

The biome is listed in the top corner of the map. You start in Meadows. Trolls are usually in the Black Forest. The Black Forest has troll caves and dungeons called burial crypts(?). That biome is also where you find copper and tin to start upgrading your gear.

I didn't realise those were biomes, have been through all the ones mentioned. However I was wandering and heard some music and plains or something popped up on the screen. I think those are biomes. I was then one hit killed exactly like Malor

I think tin is the only thing I have not forged yet, perhaps I should do that and aim to kill more trolls as the troll armour is much better than leather. I've tamed and bred boars, got loads of honey and got a forge but all I can do is make a copper knife. It's a big game world so I haven't built a huge settlement, but last nights failures put me off a bit.

Is it possible to breed and farm trolls? Or is that only a thing on the internet?

4 Million sales.... I wonder when this levels off? xD

https://steamcommunity.com/games/892...

Feb 2 launch
Feb 10 - 1 million sales (8 days)
Feb 15 - 2 million sales (5 more days)
Feb 19 - 3 million sales (4 more days)
Feb 24 - 4 million sales (5 more days)

That's very steady sales as word of mouth travels. AAA games see a massive drop after the first day or three because everyone who wants it knows about it and gets it basically right away.

omni wrote:

4 Million sales.... I wonder when this levels off? xD

Yea a bit insane. They also had 400k+ concurrent users!

they had 500k over the weekend! (498k. More than PUBG)

Top five concurrent players in a game on steam, *ever*!

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It is literally the new Minecraft, except that Minecraft started off with a year or two of no real sales to speak of. These guys hit it big coming out the gate. Once in a career moment for sure.

That is a lot of sales. $20 sweet spot with people still at home. Easy to pick up and start. Pretty cool to see. Happy for them.

omni wrote:

Top five concurrent players in a game on steam, *ever*!

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It is interesting that Terraria was in the number 6 spot considering a lot of people compare Valheim to it.

Yeah, I suggest not going into the plains unless you have a heap of silver stuff.

Plains are no joke. Ranalin, NLink, and I went into the plains last night to loot a goblin village and poke around. Even though all of us are in fully upgraded silver gear we had a couple deaths and a few really close calls. Ranalin barely survived one skirmish, somehow living with just 1 health. So even fully prepared Valheimians can get overwhelmed out there if they are not careful.

kazar wrote:

It is interesting that Terraria was in the number 6 spot considering a lot of people compare Valheim to it.

Yeah, I see that a lot. I have owned that game for oh-so-long, yet never really given it a true run. I think because I've only ever played it solo and it tends to take some form of co-op multiplayer to keep me engaged.

Maybe once the Valheim train slows down, I'll suggest it as a next game for my group.