[Discussion] Police, White Nationalists, and the Rise of Fascism

If the mob was really just in it for lols they would have left Pence in a room with a female staffer.

~mod~ not an appropriate joke then nor here, and in poor taste. - Amoebic

gewy wrote:

Does anyone else occasionally have the extremely bleak thought that we’d be better off if the mob had gotten a hold of Pence or a Democratic target on January 6th? Maybe that would have shocked the country out of its complacent slide toward authoritarianism and even worse violence to come. Maybe there’d be some consequences. Although I’m not sure even then.

This is such a great question: what would have *truly* shocked US citizens? Unfortunately, I think only mass death (police, insurrectionists) might have done it and maybe not even then. If Pence had been killed, that would have only encouraged the MAGA crowd, and the GOP would have been more radicalized with their base. In the current instance, the MAGAS looked like a bunch of Three Stooges buffoons, but now that's a problem, because moderates don't take the threat seriously. If they had executed Congress members, I have a hard time seeing that the response would have been any more dire than it was.

Gabby Giffords was LITERALLY SHOT IN THE HEAD AT POINT-BLANK RANGE, and Democrats didn't grow a spine or start playing hardball. So, no, I don't think a murder in the capitol would measurably move the needle.

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