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A lot of good for campaign players, some horrible (the new duffelbag system), and not much change at all for PvPers. You can try out the new campaign content without buying the season pass if you just join the party of someone who owns the DLC.

I see the season pass is on sale again. Anyone play the two dlcs?
I played through the main game and had a great time. Wondering whether the season pass is worth the $20 for a casual player?

Thanks!
Chad

chooka1 wrote:

I see the season pass is on sale again. Anyone play the two dlcs?
I played through the main game and had a great time. Wondering whether the season pass is worth the $20 for a casual player?

Thanks!
Chad

I haven't put a ton of time into the DLCs, but they were fun.

Thank you. Pass just went off sale. Maybe the next time.

Updated Swarm PvP tier list! It had not been changed in over a year. July 2023. And probably won't change again.
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Note that this tiering is games by B4Bers who know the game and is not precisely the tier list for PUBLIC games against/among newbie randoms. For that, Evangelo and Stalker will be a bit higher, but otherwise essentially the same.

Within each row, picks to the left are generally better than picks to the right. Based on pick rates in the final Swarm tournament, pick-up games ("PUGs"), the few premade-team scrimmages, & others' thoughts & feedback:

--CLEANERS--
S Dan
A Mom > Karlee
B Doc > Walker
C Sharice > Heng
D Hoffman > Holly > Jim > Evangelo
F Tala

CHANGE NOTES
- Doc is a more important pick than Walker. For instance in Dan games, teams sideline Walker and still pick Doc.
- Hoffman isn't the worst pick anymore. In weird-ruleset matches, his ammo and offensive items can be significant. Still overall trash though.
- Jim moves past Evangelo. A few players are able to get good use from his reload speed and weakspot damage.

--RIDDEN--
S n/a
A Tallboy > Shredder
B Retch > Bruiser
C Crusher > Ripper > Hocker > Exploder
D Stalker > Urchin > Stinger > Reeker
F n/a

CHANGE NOTES
- (Crusher v. Ripper for the top spot in C tier is still too close to call. Both can be great, but both can be wasted spawns. I still believe that Crusher squeaks past for having more hp and requiring less expertise.)
- Urchin is relegated to D. Hocker is the only stinger-family class worth having without upgrading at all, so is the only one not in trash tier.
- Hocker moves past Exploder because although both can make exceptional plays sometimes, Hocker has been proven to do so more often and more reliably
- Stalker moves past Stinger because it can actually be a worthwhile pick for anyone in the right circumstances whereas almost no one has been able to make a Stinger spawn effective since they removed jumpspitting

Thanks everyone at and using @RiptideGamers Discord for keeping regular Swarm PvP PUGs alive! Without those games, B4B would no longer still have the best PvP games available today.