NFL 2020: Week 6

garion333 wrote:

Where's that sweet, sweet Jags jersey with all the QB names? They deserve one too.

Eh, it wouldn't be that long, it's just there's a post-Gabbert curse on the team. Brunell, Leftwich, and Garrard were all at minimum capable, and then the wheels fell off with the Curse of Gabbortles. There was reasonably stable QB play for a healthy chunk of that franchise's history, and one of the reasons it's just notable is Gabbert was historically awful, and Bortles was just good enough in year four to sucker the team into a year five. Those two are basically eight years of epic sucking.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Those two are basically eight years of epic sucking.

Eight long f**king years

Speaking of Jags QBs, Minshew's performance is flying under the radar a bit, thanks to how bad the team's defense is. And how bad is that defense? 56% of opposing drives end in a score. I'm pretty sure no team in NFL history has finished a season above the 50% mark in that stat. (I checked as far back as 2000, and given that scoring only goes down the further back we go, odds are good that that assertion would hold true.)

The Giants are currently at 50% and the Jets at 46.4%. And there's actually 3 more teams above the 50 mark (Vikings, Cowboys, Raiders), speaking further to the increase of scoring we've seen so far over previous averages. But nobody else gets as high as 56%.

The only reason the Jags aren't as bad at points yielded as some other teams is because Minshew and the offense can actually put together a drive and possess the ball - 13th in total offense, 9th in time of possession per drive, 8th in yards per drive. Small victories for a 1-5 team, but for once QB isn't the source of the team's ills.

Bonus points in my book for those two. Enough with military pageantry at sporting events.

Belated Steve Beuerlein memory:

After leaving Jax, Beuerlein ended up in Carolina in 1996 as Kerry Collins' backup. Beuerlein didn't play much until 1998, when Collins was benched for (among other things) being a racist drunken douchebag who walked into the HC's office and quit.

Fast forward to Dec 1999, when the Panthers traveled to Green Bay. Carolina won thanks to a (not making this up) walk-off QB run right up the middle. Beuerlein could barely run from the sideline to the huddle, but that's one of the 5 best runs in Carolina history and, yeah, I'm including the Cam years.

Here's the video; it's awesome. Watch how the O-line triple-teams the NG right into the end zone from 5 yards out.

Fun fact: anytime someone says the word "Mandalorian," the theme song gets stuck in your head.

That was an incredible throw and catch.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Where's that sweet, sweet Jags jersey with all the QB names? They deserve one too.

Eh, it wouldn't be that long, it's just there's a post-Gabbert curse on the team. Brunell, Leftwich, and Garrard were all at minimum capable, and then the wheels fell off with the Curse of Gabbortles. There was reasonably stable QB play for a healthy chunk of that franchise's history, and one of the reasons it's just notable is Gabbert was historically awful, and Bortles was just good enough in year four to sucker the team into a year five. Those two are basically eight years of epic sucking.

Dammit, Dan, I was simply trying to make a joke!

The Jags in the 2010's had the Garrard curse (from not doing right by him the whole damn time simply because of his lower draft position):

David Garrard
Todd Bouman
Trent Edwards
Luke McCown
Blaine Gabbert
Chad Henne
Blake Bortles
Cody Kessler
Nick Foles

Oh well, you're right, it's not as amazing of a list as the Browns.

garion333 wrote:

Dammit, Dan, I was simply trying to make a joke!

I spent years watching the Bucs, so you have to have a pretty awful list of starting QBs to actually shock me.

Spoiler:

The Browns do, in fact, shock me.

Official HOT TAEKS for the Cowboys:
--I feel if you throw 54 passes, you should probably break 300 yards.
--I feel if you have 8 receptions, you should probably have more than 31 yards.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

--I feel if you throw 54 passes, you should probably break 300 yards.

Dalton's 4.9 YPA still not as elite as Flacco's 4.2 YPA this week. 186 yards on 44 attempts is downright amazing.

garion333 wrote:

David Garrard
Todd Bouman
Trent Edwards
Luke McCown
Blaine Gabbert
Chad Henne
Blake Bortles
Cody Kessler
Nick Foles

Oh well, you're right, it's not as amazing of a list as the Browns.

The Browns list is more than just a list of QBs who happened to start a game for them, though. What makes the Browns list special is the number of names who were put on the field as attempts to find a starter because the guy before them was trash.

The Jags started Edwards and Bouman for 1 game each because Garrard was banged up for 2 games in 2010, neither was ever meant to start. Every team's QB list has those.

Whereas the Browns intentionally made Kevin Hogan a starter for 1 game by benching Kizer. The Browns have so many years where they had anywhere from 2-4 guys who were elevated to QB1 on the depth chart as "well let's try it with you" efforts.

Granted the Browns have their own share of Connor Shaws and Thad Lewises who were just injury replacement fill-ins, but it's the rotation of actual anointed QB1s that makes the Browns list magical.

It is indeed The Factory.

How many 1st round QBs can you take and keep missing? Stay tuned! I feel a new experiment coming in the next couple of seasons.

Ironically, one of our Connor Shaws was Connor Shaw.

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Rat Boy wrote:

Tua to start.

People hating this move, I like it. (3-3) guarantees you nothing in the NFL, and people acting like a Fitzpatrick has been Dan Marino reborn after 2 of those wins were vs Jags and Jets. It is going to be very hard for Miami to make the playoffs, and if they do, you’re looking at facing one of KC, Tenn, Balt/Pitt in the first round if you don’t win the division.

See what you got in Tua and use that to prepare him for a 2021 run.

Rat Boy wrote:

'Pretty good chance' Washington Football Team remains in 2021, says team president. They're going to keep that name out of spite.

Translation: we are too busy trying to clean up from all of the lawsuits we are facing from our cheerleaders and depressing the team value to screw our limited partners as well as our crappy team to actually figure out a name

The Panthers have the Covid Cooties. The team now has four players on the Covid reserve list - three backup O-linemen and the kicker.

I really hope Carolina doesn't sign a new kicker. I want to see a lot of two-point conversions and going for it on fourth down. Go big or go home, right?

Enix wrote:

I really hope Carolina doesn't sign a new kicker.

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Kush15 wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

Tua to start.

People hating this move, I like it. (3-3) guarantees you nothing in the NFL, and people acting like a Fitzpatrick has been Dan Marino reborn after 2 of those wins were vs Jags and Jets. It is going to be very hard for Miami to make the playoffs, and if they do, you’re looking at facing one of KC, Tenn, Balt/Pitt in the first round if you don’t win the division.

See what you got in Tua and use that to prepare him for a 2021 run.

Also, Kyler Murray got started in year 1, as did Russell Wilson. And didn't DeShaun Watson? Lamar?

If you're good, and can hack it, I don't see why not. Not everyone needs to wait.

So Raheem Mostert has a high ankle sprain and will be out a few weeks at least.

Ben Garland, the backup center whose been the starting center because the starter hasn't played this year, is now on IR too so the Niners are back to starting a practice squad center.

The team just put yet another CB I've never heard of on the active roster.

65% 49ers no more. The team playing the Patriots this week is gonna be somewhere in the 50s at best. Another injury and they'll be chasing Trump's polling numbers.

You're a bad bad man, MMD.

For the record, the Panthers cut Aguayo in 2017. But the joke might be on me, 'cause his Wiki page says he has been out of the league since 2018. Maybe he already has plans this weekend?

Enix wrote:

Maybe he already has plans this weekend?

Apparently Aguayo and his wife bought and run a little Barre exercise studio franchise location in Boca Raton.

I'm sure he can pull himself away and catch a quick flight out.