Xbox Series X|S Catch-All

Not sure if this is quite the right thread to bitch about this, but I've got a gnarly problem with Dolby Vision. This weekend I started playing Ghost Recon Breakpoint with its latest patch. When it started up, I noticed that it switched into Dolby Vision mode on my LG C7. And, it looked absolutely gorgeous. But the more I played, the more it felt "off" - laggy, unresponsive, with a lot of overshooting on the control inputs. Now, Ubisoft games aren't really known for tight controls, but after a while it really started bugging me. Eventually, I tried turning off Dolby Vision and HDR in the Xbox settings and restarting. Now the visuals are notably flatter and muddier, but the controls are MUCH more responsive.

Anyway, my guess is that there is massive input lag / frame delay with Dolby Vision on the C7 series. The newer TVs may not have this problem. I think the C7 was the first year they had Dolby Vision as a feature. But, I wouldn't be surprised if other tvs had some significant lag.

The big problem is that there is no real way to disable Dolby Vision without turning it off at the system level. Dolby Vision is great with Netflix, which is, I think, the only other application that used it.

Dolby Update: Did more research. It wasn't a Ghost Recon / Ubisoft problem. Rather, in one of the latest beta updates, Microsoft activated Dolby Vision rendering/tone mapping in place of HDR. Now, it can be turned off at the system level and I can go back to standard HDR, but there are a couple of problems. One, it's a pain to turn back on with apps where lag isn't an issue (video streaming). Two, it looks freaking great. It's a substantial upgrade to the visuals. It's hard to describe, but it feels closer to the natural way my eyes perceive colors in the real world. Maybe another way I could describe it is that there seems to be a much greater range of contrast in very dim scenes and very brightly lit scenes. And, it seems to pretty much work properly without having to fight with HDR brightness and paperwhite settings.

Anyway, the real answer to the problem seems to be to buy an LG CX. The newer LG OLEDs have faster image processing computers. Unfortunately, that's not an option right now. And, I'm kind of bummed that the fancy TV that I spent a lot of money on a few years ago, and which still has an incredibly great screen, has now become sort of obsolete (no 120hz, no VRR, image processing computer isn't fast enough to avoid perceived frame lag).

Edit: Problem is worse than I thought. After testing a few games, I'm pretty sure that the LG C7 can't hold 60 fps in Dolby Vision mode. I'd had some suspicions in the past few days when 60 fps games were looking oddly jerky to me. I attributed it to random slow downs. But, I just tested Gears 3 and Crackdown and Biomutant and Dolby Vision mode had a clearly lower and more inconsistent framerate.

OtterBox has announced a new battery pack for the Xbox One and Series line of controller that features a quick swap cage that has it's own smaller internal battery so you don't lose connection while swapping:

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For $60 you get two cages (one for Xbox One and one for Xbox Series controllers), two batteries, a dock for charging both batteries at the same time, and a USB-C cable.

I think it is a very cool idea as I loved how quickly you could swap the Xbox 360 controllers batteries if you had an extra holder with fresh batteries nearby (I could swap in like 3 to 4 seconds using this method), but I am not sure I would want to ruin the ergonomics of the newer controllers with an odd shaped lump of a battery pack sticking off the back of the controller.

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That's a truly neat feature.

Lots of Game Pass/Xbox Cloud Gaming news out today.

Microsoft have announced Xbox branded streaming sticks and Xbox Cloud Gaming is going to be launching for compatible Smart TVs.

They are opening up Xbox Cloud Gaming to all Game Pass Ultimate subscribers. They are also upgrading their data centers to provide an Xbox Series (does specify S or X) like experience to Xbox Cloud Gaming users (current server blades were based off of the Xbox One S design).

They are also adding more regions to both Game Pass Ultimate subscriptions and Xbox Cloud Gaming.

The Xbox app on Windows is going to get Xbox Cloud Gaming support and there will be a game trial feature that will let you demo games via Xbox Cloud Gaming before you buy them.

They are also committing to launching one new first party title to Game Pass each quarter of each year.

When those new blades go live I'll use it more than I have. Right now I'm mostly using streaming from my Series X for the speed of startup, etc.

Rykin wrote:

They are opening up Xbox Cloud Gaming to all Game Pass Ultimate subscribers.

Sweet. Now maybe I can finish DQXI before it is taken off Game Pass.

TUNIC DEMO NEXT WEEK!!!!!

Also many more demos starting next Tuesday, but come on TUNIC!!!!!

Rykin wrote:

They are opening up Xbox Cloud Gaming to all Game Pass Ultimate subscribers. They are also upgrading their data centers to provide an Xbox Series (does specify S or X) like experience to Xbox Cloud Gaming users (current server blades were based off of the Xbox One S design).

The official news post says they are upgrading to Xbox Series X hardware in their datacenters:

We’re in the final stages of updating our Microsoft datacenters around the world with our latest generation of hardware, the Xbox Series X.

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2021/06/...

So is Microsoft going to be first to TVs with a game streaming app, no additional hardware required?

Top_Shelf wrote:

So is Microsoft going to be first to TVs with a game streaming app, no additional hardware required?

Could be. Gamepass is so far ahead of the field right now. Do Sony not have PSNow on their own TVs, though? What a miss.

There was a Sony TV with a PS2 built into it. It was hardly a roaring success though :).

I had a Sony TV that supported their streaming service but then Sony updated it and removed it.

TheGameguru wrote:

I had a Sony TV that supported their streaming service but then Sony updated it and removed it.

Hahaha. Oh Sony. Are we going to look back at that like Kodak and the digital camera?

TheGameguru wrote:

I had a Sony TV that supported their streaming service but then Sony updated it and removed it.

Oh, the unintentional comedy!

pandasuit wrote:

It’s that magic moment in a new console generation where I get stick drift in my first new generation controller.

I’m not surprised it happened as I’ve burned through so many Xbone controllers over the years but this might be a new record for how many months it took. In fairness I did put a ton of hours of use onto it since November.

Anyone here had success replacing the stick sensors on an Xbone controller? I have a stack of them on a shelf with left stick drift and I keep thinking I should try to fix some of them. I’ve replaced buttons and triggers and other parts before but never the stick sensor. Are the replacement sensors on Amazon any good?

And now the replacement I bought has broken but it's not stick drift this time. This time the plunger under a shoulder button snapped in half. Took the shoulder buttons out of the controller with stick drift and put them in the new one. At least that part has always been easy to fix in Xbone controllers and I'm happy to say it's even easier in the XBSX controller. The tabs holding things together are nicer than in previous Xbone controllers. Unfortunately that plunger under the shoulder button looks even thinner and less resilient than in previous models. I think I'll be breaking that a lot over the years with the way I use my controller.

Gonna have to look for a pack of replacement shoulder buttons online. They changed the design again so I can't use shoulder buttons for previous models. Anyone seen them for sale at a good price?

Top_Shelf wrote:

So is Microsoft going to be first to TVs with a game streaming app, no additional hardware required?

I think the main issue for this is how many TVs support Bluetooth or Wifi Direct? We have a Visio, an LG, and a Samsung at my house but I don't think any of them support Bluetooth or Wifi Direct. None of them are high end devices and they are all a few years old.

The Series X upgrade for Metro Exodus is coming out on June 18th!

The much-awaited Next Generation upgrade for Xbox Series X|S and PlayStation 5 owners has finally arrived. Offering Ray Tracing throughout, as well as implementation of Ray Traced Emissive Lighting, FOV Slider, increased FPS and resolution as well as utilising hardware features such as Haptic Feedback for PlayStation 5 users and Spatial Audio on Xbox. Out on June 18.

This upgrade will be free for all current owners of Metro Exodus on Xbox One or PS4 (either on disc or digitally). Plus, the Metro Exodus Complete Edition is out on June 18 physically on Xbox One|Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5 for budding Spartans who have not entered the world of Metro yet.

If you haven't played the Tunic demo on PC / Xbox, you should go spend less than an hour enjoying the heck out of it.

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Doom Eternal getting the next-gen treatment: 60fps with Ray Tracing, a solid 4k mode, and for the absurdists out there, 120fps.

trueheart78 wrote:

If you haven't played the Tunic demo on PC / Xbox, you should go spend less than an hour enjoying the heck out of it.

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Damn work getting in the way of playing Tunic... and Mass Effect 3... and with my wife

https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/16/2...

Couple things of note: 1) Microsoft is finally moving to next gen exclusive games (Yay!) and 2) making next gen exclusive games available on original Xbox One hardware via video steaming.

I was pretty sure they were going in this direction. I'm kind of surprised that it has taken them this long to announce it and I wonder why they are soft pedaling the announcement.

They were likely waiting for the upgraded server blades to be installed. Otherwise the news would be "stream Xbox One games on your...Xbox One".

Not as cool.

Looking forward to Psychonauts 2 on GamePass. I saw the purchase price is $59.99, I didn't expect that for some reason.

Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition: Xbox Series X|S DF Tech Review

Just got my first notification of Series X availability on Amazon.jp. Gone in a few minutes of course.

pandasuit wrote:

Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition: Xbox Series X|S DF Tech Review

Is this on game pass?

Balthezor wrote:
pandasuit wrote:

Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition: Xbox Series X|S DF Tech Review

Is this on game pass?

Not any more. It used to be. It’s been on deep sale off and on tho.

Xbox Design Labs now lets you do next gen controllers. They also have a couple of new color and button options.