Xbox Series X|S Catch-All

That's awesome, panda! The fact that an OG Xbone, One X, and Series X are all part of the same ecosystem is big there, too! I could see us using this at some point as well. Half a screen in Rocket League is fine for me for casual play, but a quarter of a screen is no good.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

I think I got Dark Void for a couple bucks used years ago, and it was fun for maybe 20 minutes. So, there's my huge recommendation.

Games for Gold is kind of meaningless these days anyways with the rise of Game Pass. I'm sure they'll just dump it entirely at some point pretty soon.

Vikings: Wolves of Midgar was more fun than I expected. If you like Diablo but don't like the ENDLESS FOUNTAINS OF LOOT™ gameplay that that series has devolved into, it's worth taking for a spin.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

That's awesome, panda! The fact that an OG Xbone, One X, and Series X are all part of the same ecosystem is big there, too! I could see us using this at some point as well. Half a screen in Rocket League is fine for me for casual play, but a quarter of a screen is no good.

I've been hoping they add something to Game Pass Ultimate to make it work across more than 2 Xbones. I used to pay for the Xbox Family Plan back on the 360.

We are frequently trying to get 4 people into one game together and lots of coop stuff doesn't support split screen. My wife and kids are currently really into "Plants vs. Zombies: Battle for Neighborville". It supports 2 player split screen on one console and coop across consoles except as soon as you do cross-console coop the host of the session is not allowed to be in splitscreen. So we can easily get 3 of us into the game together but not a fourth. Even if I buy a copy of the game on disk for a third console that player can't play without also paying for Xbox Gold.

Yep, that hasn't been a true issue for my family yet, but I can see the day coming.

Whoa! MLB The Show is going to be on Gamepass Day 1 (for cloud and console).

Had to check the date to make sure it wasn't an April Fool's joke.

Glad I preordered that.

DSGamer wrote:

Glad I preordered that. :(

Can't you cancel a preorder?

Also, never preorder software.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
DSGamer wrote:

Glad I preordered that. :(

Can't you cancel a preorder?

Also, never preorder software.

I preorder most of the games I buy... two or three days before they release so that they can preload

I actually didn’t know they’d let you cancel a pre-order. Also I’m on vacation and assumed the game had come out since the season started. Went and canceled and it worked. Thanks for the heads up.

TexasRay wrote:

Whoa! MLB The Show is going to be on Gamepass Day 1 (for cloud and console).

Had to check the date to make sure it wasn't an April Fool's joke.

Actual link. Xbox seems to be... on the ball.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

Also, never preorder software.

You remind me of a wise man named John Bain that made that same proclamation. RIP TotalBiscuit.

It’s that magic moment in a new console generation where I get stick drift in my first new generation controller.

I’m not surprised it happened as I’ve burned through so many Xbone controllers over the years but this might be a new record for how many months it took. In fairness I did put a ton of hours of use onto it since November.

Anyone here had success replacing the stick sensors on an Xbone controller? I have a stack of them on a shelf with left stick drift and I keep thinking I should try to fix some of them. I’ve replaced buttons and triggers and other parts before but never the stick sensor. Are the replacement sensors on Amazon any good?

Might be worth looking into an Elite controller. My wife used to wear out about one controller per year. I suggested that we get the Elite to see how it held up. It's lasted long enough that we've definitely saved money. The rubber started to peel so she just pulled it all off, and we had to get new sticks because she wore through the rubber on the ones that came with it, but the core functionality of the thing is still going strong.

Vargen wrote:

Might be worth looking into an Elite controller. My wife used to wear out about one controller per year. I suggested that we get the Elite to see how it held up. It's lasted long enough that we've definitely saved money. The rubber started to peel so she just pulled it all off, and we had to get new sticks because she wore through the rubber on the ones that came with it, but the core functionality of the thing is still going strong.

I love my Elite v1. I put it on my wishlist one time on a lark, my wife bought it, and I've been loving it ever since.

I am finding the Series X controller to be just a tad cramped for my dad hands. It's too bad because the textures feel amazing. I'll likely be switching back to my Elite v1 soon. But I'm dropping the paddles. Never was able to feel truly comfortable supporting the weight of the controller with my pinkies (middle and ring fingers being used to awkwardly rest on the paddles, but not too hard, but not too soft, but not too hard...!).

My Elite has lasted several years now, but I don't put nearly the mileage on that you all apparently do!

Vote for Elite x1. One of the best purchases I’ve made.

I wanted to love the Elite 2, and I much prefer the stock controller of the Series X|S. I sold my Elite 2 a few months ago because it had been collecting dust for months.

Top_Shelf wrote:

My Elite has lasted several years now, but I don't put nearly the mileage on that you all apparently do! :lol:

I think this is a player to player thing with grip and pressure. If my memory serves right I have only made one xbox controller drift ever (360) and it's when I lived with roomies so it likely could have been one of them. I still use my 360 controllers too! On the other hand I have a buddy who goes through a controller every year and has had to also replace his switch joycons.

@pandasuit I will ask if he has replaced xbox controller stick mechanisms. It would only be Xbox one though since he just got his series X.

EvilDead wrote:
Top_Shelf wrote:

My Elite has lasted several years now, but I don't put nearly the mileage on that you all apparently do! :lol:

I think this is a player to player thing with grip and pressure. If my memory serves right I have only made one xbox controller drift ever (360) and it's when I lived with roomies so it likely could have been one of them. I still use my 360 controllers too! On the other hand I have a buddy who goes through a controller every year and has had to also replace his switch joycons.

@pandasuit I will ask if he has replaced xbox controller stick mechanisms. It would only be Xbox one though since he just got his series X.

I had a couple of 360 controllers develop drift, but it was only in a few games. Mostly seemed to be Unreal based games with no option to adjust the deadzone. Doing game dev stuff and working with analog sticks it can be tricky to get deadzones right. I have been testing against my Xbox One controllers and one of them is good at about .12 and the other needs closer to .2 for the deadzone (i.e. I have to ignore the first 12 to 20 percent of the sticks range to eliminate drift/false input since the sticks almost never return 0 and just changing the orientation of the controller can cause gravity to change the value being returned).

Turns out it's a lot more involved than I thought to replace analog stick sensors on an Xbone controller because you have to calibrate the new part to the individual controller. Each controller is factory calibrated to it's original parts. I have almost all the tools required and some experience with this stuff. Might have to make a weekend project of it some time. Until I can dedicate some time to learning how to do it right I guess I'm still stuck buying entire controller replacements. Ordered a couple more XBSX controllers for now.

AFAICT I'm not seeing evidence the Elite controller is any more resilient than the stock controllers (but if you find evidence please share). In fact there is some evidence they have higher and more variable input latency than stock ones. I'm not interested in the other features of the Elite controller. I used to use SCUFs with all the bells and whistles and now I'd rather do without. Those didn't last long enough either. I am waiting for some longer term evidence of whether the Thrustmaster ESWAPX Pro survives heavy use as all the testing I've seen shows it to be a much better controller than the Xbone Elite and you can easily swap out sticks that drift (built in feature). It's just, that's a lot of cash for an unproven device and the replacement sticks are $25 USD a piece so depending on how long those last it might be cheaper to just buy 3 or 4 stock controllers. The way I play Rocket League puts a lot of strain on the left analog stick, the right shoulder button, and the B button.

I was looking for the Xbox Design Lab where you could pick different color combinations and it looks like that's not available for XBSX controllers until later this year. They are releasing a neon green XBSX controller this month.

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For those using Xbox Elite v1 controllers have you compared it to the v2? Thoughts?

pandasuit wrote:

It's just, that's a lot of cash for an unproven device and the replacement sticks are $25 USD a piece so depending on how long those last it might be cheaper to just buy 3 or 4 stock controllers. The way I play Rocket League puts a lot of strain on the left analog stick, the right shoulder button, and the B button.

With the way you go through controllers the cheap option probably makes the most sense. If you don't care about the dedicated share button I have even bought Xbox One controllers (not series X) for as low as $30.

I haven't watched the full video but I imagine the calibration settings are saved on the mainboard? If so maybe you could mix and match bad controllers depending on what's bad on them.

Edit: That stick replacement / calibration would make me throw everything against the wall. I mean I don't mind small solder jobs but that looks like a nightmare.

EvilDead wrote:

With the way you go through controllers the cheap option probably makes the most sense. If you don't care about the dedicated share button I have even bought Xbox One controllers (not series X) for as low as $30.

So far always seems to. I used to buy a couple Xbone controllers every time I see a major sale on. Haven't seen one recently (likely just no stock due to COVID).

EvilDead wrote:

Edit: That stick replacement / calibration would make me throw everything against the wall. I mean I don't mind small solder jobs but that looks like a nightmare.

Yeah that calibration part I have no experience with.

The Elite V2 allows you to tighten up the sticks using a tiny little screw that is under the thumbsticks.

I have bot a V1 and V2 and prefer the V2. My V1 is still usable, but I had to replace the bumpers and the guts of the controller seem to be loose.

V2 isn't perfect, but it is is quite nice and love having the case with the recharger in it. It has the perfect heft feel to it.

If you are interested in MLB the show on Game pass, you can preload it and get it patched up ahead of the launch next week.

I read somewhere that the v2 doesn’t come with as many sticks. For some of the shapes they only give you one stick, which is problematic if you like to use say, the long one on both. That wouldn’t be an issue for me but probably should be noted.

Here's an actually list of Games Featuring FPS Boost.

This list will be updated regularly as more games receive the FPS Boost feature.

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Games like Titanfall 1 & 2 now support 120FPS?

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trueheart78 wrote:

Here's an actually list of Games Featuring FPS Boost.

This list will be updated regularly as more games receive the FPS Boost feature.

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Games like Titanfall 1 & 2 now support 120FPS?

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So games like BF5 and TF2 where already at 60fps? Or am I misunderstanding something here?

I think TF2 runs at 60 on Xbox One X, but not one older models.

Rykin wrote:

I think TF2 runs at 60 on Xbox One X, but not one older models.

Yeah, it got some patches to do it but on the XB1X Enhanced version, the goal was a solid 60fps. Same as PS4 Pro, to be clear.

IIRC Battlefield 4 was the first BF running 60fps on consoles and they all have since. They did cut the resolution to 720p to get there tho