Xbox Series X|S Catch-All

I have a 4K TV only because that's what was recommended and widely available when our old HD TV gave up on us. The 4K sets were affordable. They offered HDR. That seemed the best future proof path. So I opted in.

I don't believe we've put any 4K content through it yet, a few years on. I've toggled HDR off more than I have on. PS3, 360, Wii U, PS4, Switch. Our cable provider is also SD and HD, no 4K to speak of. The SD channels are the only eyesore. Everything else is upscaled delightfully. I may as well have stayed with a 1080p television, honestly, and I likely would have if they were more readily available when I was in need.

Whichever console version doesn't sound like a leafblower will get my money.

Docjoe wrote:

But everyone else is having such a great time and I feel left out!

I would tell just about anyone to get BotW (which you must already own) and give it five or ten hours. That game is amazing!

Do you not enjoy Mario Kart with the family? We've put many hours into that, Smash, and Mario Party.
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As long as we're off-topic, whenever people mention the Vita I feel like I dodged a bullet, but then I shake my head and think about how much I loved my PSP. Such a great device for the pre-smartphone, pre-iPad era.

SallyNasty wrote:

Whichever console version doesn't sound like a leafblower will get my money.

My X1X has started getting louder than my PS4 Pro, which I didn't think was even possible.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
Docjoe wrote:

But everyone else is having such a great time and I feel left out!

I would tell just about anyone to get BotW (which you must already own) and give it five or ten hours. That game is amazing!

Do you not enjoy Mario Kart with the family? We've put many hours into that, Smash, and Mario Party.
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Thought I’d love BotW but just too cartoony for me. Mario Kart is OK but much prefer co-op Forza Horizon with my daughter. Smash was meh. Bought Switch Lite for me and my daughter plus a copy of Animal Crossing each thinking it would be great to do together. I made it 2 hours and realized it was not for me. Even bought Cub but realized I’d much prefer playing it on my 32” monitor on my Pc.

Maybe I’m just weird.....

I play the sh*t out of my Vita (see the game club). I like the library better than the PSP. Of course, PSP games look great on the Vita screen (perfect 2x upscaling).

ClockworkHouse wrote:
SallyNasty wrote:

Whichever console version doesn't sound like a leafblower will get my money.

My X1X has started getting louder than my PS4 Pro, which I didn't think was even possible.

I still have not heard a thing from X1X. It is also on far fewer hours since I no longer use the HDMI IN for TV.

The noisiest thing I have now is my PC. My graphics card is pretty nice, an RX 5700, but it gets LOUD. Reviews mentioned it, they weren't kidding. I guess it is fitting for MSFS, if I could sync it for take-off.

Would really love if consoles get quieter. Both PS4 and PS4Pro are ridiculously loud. Nearly can’t hear my pc even at full load.

I would be willing to pay extra for a quiet version of consoles.
I guess streaming will solve this in a few decades...

I thought it was just controllers but it I'm reading that any accessory that connects wireless (direct) or USB will work with the new consoles. That is huge. I always feel bad about the old accessory waste when getting a new consoles so I tend to hang on to them until I can find someone who needs them. I still have PS3 controllers and Wii wands sitting in drawers. The 360 controllers got re-purposed as PC controllers.

Jayhawker wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:
SallyNasty wrote:

Whichever console version doesn't sound like a leafblower will get my money.

My X1X has started getting louder than my PS4 Pro, which I didn't think was even possible.

I still have not heard a thing from X1X. It is also on far fewer hours since I no longer use the HDMI IN for TV.

The noisiest thing I have now is my PC. My graphics card is pretty nice, an RX 5700, but it gets LOUD. Reviews mentioned it, they weren't kidding. I guess it is fitting for MSFS, if I could sync it for take-off.

If I play anything that is 4k, it becomes distractingly loud and audible even through my headset.

This thing is huge.

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It is a chunky boi, is it not?

Can fit a whole lot of Vapor Chambers in that large lad.

I am totally in for an X. I upgraded to a decent 4k Bravia with HDR when the PS4 Pro came out. Also, I need something to play my 4k movies on.

Mr GT Chris wrote:

I play the sh*t out of my Vita (see the game club). I like the library better than the PSP. Of course, PSP games look great on the Vita screen (perfect 2x upscaling).

Every now and then I think about digging my PSP out and playing Metal Gear AC!D.

Seriously, the feels I associate with the PSP... those were good times.

Xbox Series S Won’t Apply Xbox One X Enhancements, Microsoft Confirms

Launching 10th November for just £249.99/$299.99, the Xbox Series S appears to offer phenomenal value for money and a cheap way to access the next generation of games. But its cut-down specs will apparently come with a drawback.

Though the Xbox Series S will undoubtedly be a more capable machine than the Xbox One X overall, Microsoft has confirmed with us that when playing backwards compatible titles, the Xbox Series S won’t apply any Xbox One X-centric enhancements. When asked to clarify how the Series S deals with Xbox One X enhanced games, a Microsoft spokesperson provided the following statement:

“Xbox Series S was designed to be the most affordable next generation console and play next generation games at 1440P at 60fps. To deliver the highest quality backwards compatible experience consistent with the developer’s original intent, the Xbox Series S runs the Xbox One S version of backward compatible games while applying improved texture filtering, higher and more consistent frame rates, faster load times and Auto HDR.”

The news may come as a disappointment to some, but as the statement mentions, backwards compatible games will still look better on Xbox Series S due to improved texture filtering and other enhancements.

Games with dynamic resolutions and unlocked framerates will also see a benefit. And finally, many first party games that were enhanced for Xbox One X, such as Forza Horizon 4 and Gears 5, are going to be updated to make use of the extra power afforded by both Xbox Series S and X.

Does the Series X offer those BC enhancements?

According to Digital Foundry, yes it does.

Cool. That settles which model I'm after, then. I like my enhanced BC games.

Yup looks like I’m going X as well. I’m assuming these things are going to go fast, I’d imagine their first run supply will be limited? GameStop/Best Buy I’m guessing won’t have events for the presale due to Covid so will be a race to order online?

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Does the Series X offer those BC enhancements?

The Series X does even more than the One X does but it sounds like the Series S does less than the One X (with the exception of just having faster IO and better texture filtering and the auto HDR stuff). Ugh these names come on Microsoft. Xbox 4.5 and Xbox 5 just do it.

Actually I think their Series S and Series X naming is likely part of a longer term plan where there is an S and X model refresh every 3-4 years. The S model will be the casual affordable model with some rough specs on par with the previous X, but with a couple of the new X features. The new X will be the full price machine pushing the specs hard. Then repeat. Like the phone model, but at slower frequency.

So, Microsoft has gotten themselves into the position where they have to curate the optimum enhancement profiles for each backwards compatible game for each iteration and variation of their hardware.

This is going to turn into a headache for them very quickly.

polq37 wrote:

So, Microsoft has gotten themselves into the position where they have to curate the optimum enhancement profiles for each backwards compatible game for each iteration and variation of their hardware.

This is going to turn into a headache for them very quickly.

Yeah, that's what doomed the PC gaming industry.

From @Xbox on Twitter:

Fun fact: Xbox Series S is so small @XboxP3 had it sitting on his bookshelf back on July 1 and nobody noticed.

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It does make things slightly harder but it is still way fewer variables than in the PC world. Heck there is probably just a single bit of code with checks for the platform that flip various code switches in their emulation layer at runtime. In the end all the games are making use of the same assets and Microsoft isn't doing anything to the actual game code, they are just tweaking options at runtime and doing some pre and post processing of graphic resources.

The Series S is a weird beast though. In some ways it might be more powerful than a One X but it is being held back by it's limited amount of RAM.

I wasn’t planning on getting any launch consoles, but I’m in for the series X now...I skipped an xbox generation and my PC isn’t that great so I’m keen to get game pass and play all the stuff I’ve missed.

This is insanity.

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2020/0...

"Users who have both Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and EA Play purchased through Xbox will have their EA Play membership canceled and any remaining time over 50 days will be rounded up and converted to the nearest month of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate at a ratio of 3:1 based on ERP"

Basically, this means you'll benefit from any extra months you have on your Xbox-bought EA Play subscription in the form of more Xbox Game Pass Ultimate time, which sounds good to us!

I actually had just renewed EA Access this month for the next year. So I will have 10 months when it goes live. That becoming 30 months adds 2 and half years to my GPU subscription. And since I maxed out the upgrade when I transferred it from GP to GPU, my sub went from expiring in June of 2022, to January 2025.

It adds up, as my EA Access renewal was $30, and it is adding 30 months to my GPU, which was the same deal when they upgraded from GP. It's not a bad way to lock in a ton of loyal customers, all the people in the ecosystem already.

Jayhawker wrote:

This is insanity.

https://www.purexbox.com/news/2020/0...

"Users who have both Xbox Game Pass Ultimate and EA Play purchased through Xbox will have their EA Play membership canceled and any remaining time over 50 days will be rounded up and converted to the nearest month of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate at a ratio of 3:1 based on ERP"

Basically, this means you'll benefit from any extra months you have on your Xbox-bought EA Play subscription in the form of more Xbox Game Pass Ultimate time, which sounds good to us!

I actually had just renewed EA Access this month for the next year. So I will have 10 months when it goes live. That becoming 30 months adds 2 and half years to my GPU subscription. And since I maxed out the upgrade when I transferred it from GP to GPU, my sub went from expiring in June of 2022, to January 2025.

It adds up, as my EA Access renewal was $30, and it is adding 30 months to my GPU, which was the same deal when they upgraded from GP. It's not a bad way to lock in a ton of loyal customers, all the people in the ecosystem already.

I think it's the other way around. So 10 months of EA Access converts to 3 or 4 months of GPU. That still saves some compared to buying those months straight, but nothing quite that crazy.

Yeah, I think you are right.