2020/21 Soccer Thread: Messxit?

Liverpool transfer saga for Thiago Alcântara finally seems to be coming to a close

A good signing I think that adds to Liverpool’s midfield. You do wonder if that the green light for Wijnaldum to go to Barcelona though. I suspect it might.

Yeah, Liverpool doing a decent job of finding value with their (relatively) limited spending this window.

Oh, and Football Manager is free on the epic game store. Worth a shot of you have a PC.

Roke wrote:

Yeah, Liverpool doing a decent job of finding value with their (relatively) limited spending this window.

Oh, and Football Manager is free on the epic game store. Worth a shot of you have a PC.

Well, on the basis I prefer being married I'll be avoiding the Epic launcher like the plague for the next couple of days then........................

This just in, in an unprecedented move, Wolves and the Portuguese national team have merged.

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Have we mentioned that Alex Morgan has joined Spurs this week, in addition to Gareth Bale and the many other signings we've made? Who is in charge of the club's finances, and what have they done with Daniel Levy?

slazev wrote:

This just in, in an unprecedented move, Wolves and the Portuguese national team have merged.

I believe you mean "Lobos and the Portuguese national team have merged."

Meanwhile, in Germany, Bayern need to stop playing on Semi-Pro.

Prederick wrote:
slazev wrote:

This just in, in an unprecedented move, Wolves and the Portuguese national team have merged.

I believe you mean "Lobos and the Portuguese national team have merged."

Meanwhile, in Germany, Bayern need to stop playing on Semi-Pro.

Ouch. If you're Schalke

Oh wow, Diogo Jota to Liverpool.

Well, if Liverpool will have anything, they'll have competition for first-team places. Sheesh.

Prederick wrote:

Oh wow, Diogo Jota to Liverpool.

Well, if Liverpool will have anything, they'll have competition for first-team places. Sheesh.

Possibly looking for another CB too. This is good business to my mind (my biases notwithstanding!) - this season of all seasons there are going to be a lot of games played in a condensed season, a large squad that will need to be rotated is going to be essential. Expect injuries etc. I really hope we keep Brewster as well, I think he's good enough for the EPL.

Jota was definitely out of the blue. Didn't even see that rumor floating around.

Good piece of business by Liverpool. Hopefully it doesn't stunt his development as he is still 23.

Huuuuuuuuuuuurgh.

There's a reason why, in my FM game, my FIFA game and my PES game, one of the first things I did was get rid of Dennis Odoi when we got promoted.

Leeds and 4-3 then.

I'd love for them to be involved in 38 4-3's this season.

Our opening day game against Everton doesn't look quite as bad today. Nice to see James scoring!

Also, Palace 3-1 ManU! You love to see it!

It's frustrating here in the US that more and more soccer content that was available with a decent cable or streaming package is getting shuffled behind paywalls. CBS All Access has taken Champions League for $5/month. NBC/Comcast has moved most of the Premier League content behind their new Peacock pay service at $5/month.

Grrr.

Godzilla Blitz wrote:

It's frustrating here in the US that more and more soccer content that was available with a decent cable or streaming package is getting shuffled behind paywalls. CBS All Access has taken Champions League for $5/month. NBC/Comcast has moved most of the Premier League content behind their new Peacock pay service at $5/month.

Grrr.

It does stink, but on the other hand, you can get all the EPL for $5/mo with no cable subscription. If you could do that for US sports leagues and have a true ala carte system, it would be awesome, and much cheaper than cable.

Edit: I erred grievously in this post. Peacock has most of the games, but not all. Totally rubbishes the entire concept, imho.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

Our opening day game against Everton doesn't look quite as bad today. Nice to see James scoring!

Also, Palace 3-1 ManU! You love to see it!

Jonathan Wilson could write an entire column about the posession numbers in this game.

Godzilla Blitz wrote:

It's frustrating here in the US that more and more soccer content that was available with a decent cable or streaming package is getting shuffled behind paywalls. CBS All Access has taken Champions League for $5/month. NBC/Comcast has moved most of the Premier League content behind their new Peacock pay service at $5/month.

Grrr.

Premier league services in the UK are locked behind two main platforms - Sky (Rupert Murdoch’s old company) or BT Sport. Amazon have a few games they put on Prime but That’s about it. That includes all the Premier League games and champions league, Europa league and quite a bit of the FA Cup although the BBC still get quite a few of those free to air.

The cost of those packages ranges from about £40 ($50 ish) for each service, to about £100 ($150 give or take) for a service (Virgin Media basically) that’ll provide all the streams. That’s a month, not yearly. If you want Sky & BT Sport you’ll have to pay both providers.

I’d take your arm off for £4 a month for all games. To be blunt, it’s why so many people in the UK either go to the pub to watch the games or ‘stream’ the games off the Internet.

Yeah, sorry, it's $5 for Peacock (most games) plus $50+ for cable to have NBCSN to get the games the owners of Peacock put on that channel. Cable could easily be more than that to get a package that includes NBCSN.

Full EPL is USA would be $60+, easily. Again, my prior post was incorrect.

Four for Son, but Dele Alli to PSG?

I signed up for Peacock, which I guess is an improvement. We'll see how I feel about CBS All Access, although it was mostly fine during the CL (the trial period took me all the way through the final).

How much did Kepa cost again? He’s worse than Karius.

He's got more assists for Liverpool than Karius.

Oh my God, Kepa.

Sorbicol wrote:
Godzilla Blitz wrote:

It's frustrating here in the US that more and more soccer content that was available with a decent cable or streaming package is getting shuffled behind paywalls. CBS All Access has taken Champions League for $5/month. NBC/Comcast has moved most of the Premier League content behind their new Peacock pay service at $5/month.

Grrr.

Premier league services in the UK are locked behind two main platforms - Sky (Rupert Murdoch’s old company) or BT Sport. Amazon have a few games they put on Prime but That’s about it. That includes all the Premier League games and champions league, Europa league and quite a bit of the FA Cup although the BBC still get quite a few of those free to air.

The cost of those packages ranges from about £40 ($50 ish) for each service, to about £100 ($150 give or take) for a service (Virgin Media basically) that’ll provide all the streams. That’s a month, not yearly. If you want Sky & BT Sport you’ll have to pay both providers.

I’d take your arm off for £4 a month for all games. To be blunt, it’s why so many people in the UK either go to the pub to watch the games or ‘stream’ the games off the Internet.

I don't envy the system in the UK, for sure. And I don't like how the US is drifting toward that sort of a system.

What's it like to watch La Liga, Bundesliga, Serie A, or Ligue 1 in the UK? Are they part of the same packages?

None of this is surprising, but Tifo remains informative as always. I had no idea about the future deal Tottenham had signed with Amazon either.

Gonna put "The Glory Game" on my future reading list though, see if it stands up to "The Breaks of the Game."

Peacock tv App finally has made it to Roku. This will probably lure me to sub for the EPL season.

Prederick wrote:

Four for Son, but Dele Alli to PSG?

There certainly is smoke for Dele possibly making a move - he's been left out of the last two squads.

Son, what a game! Went looking for my fifth Son jersey during the game, but held off.

I believe I'm at 66% "Worth it!" for waking up for a 6am soccer match in my life. One was Messi's amazing Clasico just before Christmas a few years ago. The other was the first Australia game from the 2018 World Cup (I was just so excited for the World Cup to have started).

I was not aware of Suarez to Juve, much less how hilariously corrupt and absurd it had become.

This is a scandal that revolves around one person not speaking enough Italian, and another speaking too much. Somehow the public prosecutor has got wind of a few things Suárez’s personal tutor – helpfully also the director for Perugia’s centre for linguistic certification – reportedly let slip about her star student, such as: “He barely speaks a word, he can’t even conjugate verbs” and “Might pass? He has to pass, you don’t chuck out someone on €10m a year just because he can’t get a certificate.” Though Perugia’s University for Foreigners insisted on Tuesday that “correct examination procedures were followed” and “the authenticity of the process will become clear at the end of the investigation”, the city’s chief prosecutor – who has been poking around their affairs since February – is alleging a conspiracy.

According to Perugia’s primary prosecutor, Raffaele Cantone, not only did Suárez turn up for his exam already knowing what he was going to be asked, but his examiners turned up already knowing what mark they were going to give him. Yet perhaps the funniest thing about this entire episode – if the allegations prove correct – is that examiners didn’t adequately hide their failure to adequately test Suárez on the Italian he didn’t adequately learn in an effort to facilitate a transfer that isn’t even actually happening. It is a full circle of failure. What Cantone is suggesting is that of the crucial elements of the story – Suárez’s Italian, the exam to test it and the transfer that would follow – not one of them was real. Even the visit of Boris Johnson revealed in the press release Perugia Airport put out following Suárez’s visit for his test wasn’t real. The entire business sounds like the most ridiculous combination of deceit and incompetence that has come to The Fiver’s attention since, well, all right, there’s a lot of deceit and incompetence about, but that wouldn’t make it OK.

The imaginary cherry atop this fake cake is the suggestion that Suárez was issued with the all-important intermediate B1 qualification after a test lasting just 15 minutes, while others sitting the same test on the same day (albeit in Rome) were subjected to an additional written paper lasting fully two-and-a-half hours. This entire plot is the kind of half-ar$ed, knocked-out-in-a-rush nonsense, entirely lacking even basic quality control, that Fiver readers must find both infuriating and also strangely familiar.

Meanwhile, with ominous warnings in the UK about coronavirus restrictions, it's not going great for football clubs living without fans.

'We have got a week to two weeks left': Dover face fan-less threat to future

For Dover Athletic, the outlook could not be starker. The National League club are, according to their chairman, Jim Parmenter, as close as a week away from going out of business unless they receive reassurances the fifth-tier season will soon begin with supporters in attendance.

It is a sickening thought for Parmenter, who has invested more than £4m in the club over 15 years, but confirmation the government has shelved the phased reintroduction of fans has left clubs throughout the pyramid fretting over their immediate futures.

Parmenter had previously warned Dover could become the first professional club to collapse as a result of the coronavirus pandemic, and the reversal on fans being allowed into matches from October could be the final straw for the club, who cannot plough on without match-day income as they continue to foot monthly bills of about £80,000. On Thursday, the National League board is expected to postpone the new season because many clubs fear it is not viable to start without supporters.

“We have got a week to two weeks left, without some kind of decision on when we can start,” says Parmenter. “We have to start with fans; it is impossible without fans. We have already spent significant amounts of cash on training and preparations for the start of the season, so that money has gone. We are reliant on sponsorship, gate money, tea and bar revenue, things like that to pay the bills, and none of that looks likely.”

UK government ready to rescue up to eight sports facing financial black hole

Lastly, as a Fulham fan, I hate them, but I totally agree with Les Ferdinand and QPR here.

Down in the Football League there's none of the tight Covid bubbling we have in the Premier League and the two methods are going to cross streams this week as some Premier League teams bump into lower sides in the Carabao Cup.

Slightly concerned about this Sputs paid for all of Leyton Orient's first team to get tested before the two were due to meet in their Carabao game tonight. Which is good, because it turned out most of the Orient team tested positive.

Before their game with Mansfield on Saturday Leyton Orient's manager said that he had nine players "struggling" because of a "bug" but that it was "not a covid issue."

Mansfield are now testing their entire team and coaching staff and Plymouth who played against Orient last Tuesday plan to do the same. Mansfield also announced they intend to lodge a complaint with the Football League.