2020/21 Soccer Thread: Messxit?

Almost a third of West Brom's goals this season have been against Chelsea.

100% of Callum Robinson's five career Premier League goals have been against Chelsea.

BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG SAM

So the key to Liverpool's season: Stop playing at home.

Thank God Jonathan David's injury doesn't sound too serious. (Scored to help Lille win 1-nil over PSG today and go 3 points up at the top of the table). Gonna need him for the more difficult WCQ matches.

Prederick's panda bear about to turn around and smile at the camera.

no talk me im angy

Or, more accurately: F**********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************K

It looked so good for almost 20 minutes.

Something-something "where the f*ck is Ted Lasso when I need him" something-something.

EDIT: At least we've also reached the "it's everyone's fault but me" portion of the Mourinho managerial arc.

Couldn't do me that ONE favor, eh "Special One"?

Prederick wrote:

Something-something "where the f*ck is Ted Lasso when I need him" something-something.

Ted Lasso is fool's gold. He didn't do anything to end Tottenham's trophy draught.

Prederick wrote:

Liverpool v. Real should be very interesting, because right now, that's two teams I don't think anyone would be terrified to draw.

Make that one team.

Prederick wrote:
Prederick wrote:

Liverpool v. Real should be very interesting, because right now, that's two teams I don't think anyone would be terrified to draw.

Make that one team.

Real haven't been that good, Liverpool just haven't really turned up. Trent Alexander Arnold needs to remember sometimes, he has to defend.

"Ipswich Town: Marcus Evans sells club to American investment fund ORG"

I had to do something with all those stimulus cheques.

You have to be careful what you wish for, etc, and there's no guarantee this will be good, but it can't be worse than the slow strangulation we've suffered under Evans.

Good GOD is Mbappe good.

And this is a fantastic game of football between Bayern and PSG.

Goddammit.

I tune in, and literally a minute later Wolves score.

EDIT: Oh thank God it's offside. Thank goodness for VAR, a perfect system I support and have no complaints about.

Prederick wrote:

EDIT: Oh thank God it's offside. Thank goodness for VAR, a perfect system I support and have no complaints about.

This made me genuinely laugh out loud!

This one hurts.

EDIT: Well, a point wasn't really helpful anyway, but it was better than no points.

That may be it though. Fulham need at least nine points from their remaining six fixtures to have a shot at staying up, I think, and those remaining six are...

at Arsenal
at Chelsea
Burnley
at Southampton
at ManU
Newcastle

Basically, the hope now is that Newcastle are so monumentally terrible that we can stay within touching distance. Because if they are even half competent (with two games in hand, no less), we're dead.

Prederick wrote:

This one hurts.

Oooof. Last kick of the game too

The sooner VAR is removed from football the better. It is. cancer on the game.

Remember when VAR was only going to overturn decisions when it was "Clear and Obvious"?

What a bald-faced lie that was.

VAR isn't the problem. It's a tool to help officials get more calls right. The problem is the officials.

US sports have had instant replay for years, and it's not a problem. There are still tons of bad calls, but there are many that are improved because of replay. The problem is human - honest human error, but sometimes human arrogance. Both are on full display in soccer as well.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

VAR isn't the problem. It's a tool to help officials get more calls right. The problem is the officials.

US sports have had instant replay for years, and it's not a problem. There are still tons of bad calls, but there are many that are improved because of replay. The problem is human - honest human error, but sometimes human arrogance. Both are on full display in soccer as well.

It absolutely is a problem in North American sports and has been for years.

In some, like football with long, natural breaks and more ads than Times Square it can be tolerable but in basketball, baseball, and hockey they spend interminable time splitting hairs on stuff like whether a guys is.offside or who the ball grazed off to go out of bounds (when they aren't ignoring a blatant foot in the crease).

I think NBA analyst Seth Partnow is spot on:

https://twitter.com/SethPartnow/stat...

So what? Teams are going to get the shaft about as often as they benefit, but we’re all worse off because of the stoppages and confusion. The minor improvements to accuracy of calls do not make the product more entertaining, so it’s a failed innovation.

https://twitter.com/SethPartnow/stat...

Once you accept the degree to which the variance in a sporting event controls the outcome (and indeed without that variance, the games would be pretty boring) it becomes a lot easier to view officiating as another source of exogenous variance and get on with your fan life.

The tradeoff in entertainment for accuracy is nowhere near worth it with the way non-rugby sports implement video review.

Roke wrote:

In some, like football with long, natural breaks and more ads than Times Square it can be tolerable but in basketball, baseball, and hockey they spend interminable time splitting hairs on stuff like whether a guys is.offside or who the ball grazed off to go out of bounds (when they aren't ignoring a blatant foot in the crease).

This actually just came up two days ago with the Mets.

Man City shots 29
Leeds shots 2

Score Man City 1
Leeds 2

All while down to 10 men for the whole of the second half, smash and grab by Dallas, what a team. 9th/10th in the League with what is pretty much the same side that got us up from the championship.

onewild wrote:

Man City shots 29
Leeds shots 2

Score Man City 1
Leeds 2

All while down to 10 men for the whole of the second half, smash and grab by Dallas, what a team. 9th/10th in the League with what is pretty much the same side that got us up from the championship.

It's really great to see you guys and Bielsa doing so well. Been a long time coming.

Happier memories. (Peter Drury is pure poetry in this one.)

I imagine I thought the same thing then as Middlesbrough fans thought in 2006. It's nothing but up from here.

Instead, I'm staring down the barrel of a third relegation since I decided they were my team.

Sports. Not even once.

Jesse Lingard for Ballon d'Or?

Prederick wrote:

I imagine I thought the same thing then as Middlesbrough fans thought in 2006. It's nothing but up from here.

Instead, I'm staring down the barrel of a third relegation since I decided they were my team.

In 2001 my team finished fifth in the Premier League and George Burley won manager of the year. The next season we beat Inter Milan at home, got relegated and went bankrupt.

We're now a middling League One team who didn't manage a shot on target in either of our last two games.

Saint-Maximin rescues Newcastle! (though we should have had a penalty for the high boot in the box). Dude came on and completely changed the game.

First match I've watched in full this season.

More in VAR Wars.

https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/stat...

It’s extraordinary how ludicrous VAR has become. Not only with their many errors but that it sucks the life out of the game. The joy of celebrating, which is what makes football so special, has been completely diluted.