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Seems deeper than I thought it would be.

Rat Boy wrote:

Succession:

Lacking a separate spoiler thread, I'll just say this after tonight's episode...

Spoiler:

... did Kendall try to drown himself?

Spoiler:

I definitely wouldn't say he tried to. I think it's slightly ambiguous as to whether he was at risk of doing so anyway (he was kind of sliding face first into the water, but IMO that wasn't a suicide attempt as much as just a dangerous level of apathy). I'll be curious whether the next episode addresses that moment or if he's just back at it like his normal self (one of them, anyway).

Some people seem to think so, but I'm not there yet. Kendall has been through a lot of sh*t (most of it of his own making) and seems to always somehow hang on.

Shout out to Kieran Culkin on the last episode. That ending just knocked me out. That body language, that look. So good.

"ROMAN!"

Succession, again:

Spoiler:

So who had Tom coming out on top?

Watched the first two episodes of Station Eleven. This is a post apocalyptic dark comedy(?). Really not 100% what genre this falls under. I have laughed a few times. But it has me interested. Some good characters and a the way the world works and the people in it has me curious. It jumps around in time quite a bit. Sometimes 2 years in to the future, mostly 20 years ahead, but also days before the world fell apart. So if you hate shows that jump all over the place at any given moment this may not be for you.

The second episode gives off a Carnivàle type vibe with the odd wandering theatre troop but dark stuff afoot.

I’m going to keep with it just for the mystery and general oddness of it. I give it a check it out recommendation.

Guess it's time to sign up for a month for the Matrix.

Stele wrote:

Guess it's time to sign up for a month for the Matrix.

Only three days before it's here!

I'm late to the party, but I'm starting the third season of The Leftovers, and holy crap that's one hell of a show. I like it a lot.

Also late to the party, we're halfway through the first season of Doom Patrol. That's also a hell of a show. I love that Brendan Fraser is in it, though I kind of wish he wasn't mostly a voice actor. We just finished the episode where not-Crowley came in, and I want a game or book series that's just about that magic stuff. Wife was kind of weirded out by the show at first, because it's weird and not what she was expecting from a comic book show, but she's warming up to it. Even though it's more violent than she strictly likes.

And we're halfway through the season of The Nevers. I think we're both a little torn on this one. I love the lead actress, Victorian superpowered folks is interesting. Not totally sold on their mystery box. Don't love that it's Joss Whedon. I probably wouldn't have suggested it if I'd caught that before we watched two episodes.

Chaz wrote:

And we're halfway through the season of The Nevers. I think we're both a little torn on this one. I love the lead actress, Victorian superpowered folks is interesting. Not totally sold on their mystery box. Don't love that it's Joss Whedon. I probably wouldn't have suggested it if I'd caught that before we watched two episodes.

Well, he's no longer involved with the show, if that makes you feel better about watching it.

Chaz wrote:

And we're halfway through the season of The Nevers. I think we're both a little torn on this one. I love the lead actress, Victorian superpowered folks is interesting. Not totally sold on their mystery box. Don't love that it's Joss Whedon. I probably wouldn't have suggested it if I'd caught that before we watched two episodes.

If you're already halfway through, you should definitely do whatever it takes to stick around until the end of the season.

Chaz wrote:

I'm late to the party, but I'm starting the third season of The Leftovers, and holy crap that's one hell of a show. I like it a lot.

I keep meaning to do a rewatch of The Leftovers. It is so fantastic. I know you aren't there yet, but I was a wreck when it ended, for numerous reasons.

Matrix Resurrections is bizarre- it sort of feels like Lana Wachowski resented making it. The film incessantly recapitulates the original movies, recreating shots and occasionally entire scenes from the trilogy as well as having flashbacks to the originals every few minutes in the first half.
Meanwhile there’s constant meta commentary throughout the entire movie about sh*tty remakes and reboots and pandering to nostalgia. There’s a fight scene in the latter half with a roomful of agents and humans fighting while a side character from Reloaded screams from a catwalk about how everything used to be better and the new Matrix sucks.
I enjoyed it well enough. It’s got some neat ideas but also a couple deeply stupid ideas. It directly continues the story from the original trilogy but I don’t really think it adds anything meaningful to it.

ruhk wrote:

It’s got some neat ideas but also a couple deeply stupid ideas. It directly continues the story from the original [Matrix] but I don’t really think it adds anything meaningful to it.

Oh, so it's a Matrix sequel then.

I just finished it, and I thought it was... okay. I enjoyed it more than the other two sequels (which, I'll grant you, I hated when I saw them in theaters and have never watched again), but it's not a movie I'm going to recommend people watch. It is just fine.

One of the big plot points that make me think Lana didn’t really want to make this movie and sort of resents it is at the beginning of the movie it’s revealed that Neo/Thomas Anderson is a popular game dev who once created a hit videogame trilogy called “The Matrix” but hasn’t had any comparable successes since. His studio’s parent company, explicitly named as Warner Bros, has been bugging him for years for a new Matrix game and finally tells him that if he won’t make it they’ll give the rights to a studio that will.
The Wachowski’s have been saying for years that Warner Bros has been bugging them for more Matrix since the trilogy concluded. I wonder if there was some rights issue that spurred the creation of this movie.

Some contracts definitely have time in them. That's why FOX made the even more useless Fantastic 4 reboot, so they wouldn't lose the property back to Marvel.

Some of the articles about the Wachowskis mentioned that WB dumped them after Jupiter Ascending bombed at the box office.

Not sure why they are back with them just 5 years later.

I enjoyed the matrix. Not as big if a splash as the first one but I didn't expect it to be as good. Glad I watched it.

My main complaint was none of the action scenes felt original or even all that exciting. I kinda liked all the meta stuff at first but by the end you realize it was just lampshading, and yeah pointing out that your tired sequel with recycled ideas is just that, a tired sequel they got railroaded into doing is just another unoriginal corporate remake, well thanks for being honest I guess? Hugely disappointing.

merphle wrote:
Chaz wrote:

And we're halfway through the season of The Nevers. I think we're both a little torn on this one. I love the lead actress, Victorian superpowered folks is interesting. Not totally sold on their mystery box. Don't love that it's Joss Whedon. I probably wouldn't have suggested it if I'd caught that before we watched two episodes.

If you're already halfway through, you should definitely do whatever it takes to stick around until the end of the season.

We finished last night. Woah. Definitely in for season 2.

Chaz wrote:
merphle wrote:
Chaz wrote:

And we're halfway through the season of The Nevers. I think we're both a little torn on this one. I love the lead actress, Victorian superpowered folks is interesting. Not totally sold on their mystery box. Don't love that it's Joss Whedon. I probably wouldn't have suggested it if I'd caught that before we watched two episodes.

If you're already halfway through, you should definitely do whatever it takes to stick around until the end of the season.

We finished last night. Woah. Definitely in for season 2.

I was all here casually enjoying my time with that show - neat premise, cool characters, good writing - and then that last episode pulled the rug out from under me and left me utterly speechless. I can't remember the last time I had a "what the actual f*ck" moment like that, and I loved it.

AcidCat wrote:

My main complaint was none of the action scenes felt original or even all that exciting. I kinda liked all the meta stuff at first but by the end you realize it was just lampshading, and yeah pointing out that your tired sequel with recycled ideas is just that, a tired sequel they got railroaded into doing is just another unoriginal corporate remake, well thanks for being honest I guess? Hugely disappointing.

The me that saw The Matrix on opening day would have been pissed off about all this, I think.

The pushing 50 version of me that exists now has some bitter appreciation for Lana Wachowski's complaints and is just happy that the movie was competently entertaining for 2.5 hours.

I came into this movie with very low expectations. Groff, NPH, and New Morpheus are all good. The 'commentary on the film industry' stuff that is getting so much attention is mostly in the first half hour of the film. The rest of it is a rather sweet middle-aged love story with occasional action scenes.

I'm glad others enjoyed it, but I thought The Matrix 4 was just terrible. I had trouble finishing it. The plot was nonsense, the action scenes boring, and none of the motivations other than Neo's made any sense. I can't even say I was glad I watched it. Oh well, I've wasted my time on worse movies before.

I liked Matrix 4. Maybe it's because 2 and 3 lowered my expectations? 4 was less talky-explainey and more shooty-kung-fooey. Sure, there was plot silliness, but the action scenes were pretty good. I thought the meta commentary was humorous. Also, more cool sunglasses.

This was just an excuse to reunite the cast from Sense8, wasn't it?
Btw, Catrix, really? That should've gone to the deleted scenes and even that is being too nice.

deftly wrote:

I liked Matrix 4. Maybe it's because 2 and 3 lowered my expectations? 4 was less talky-explainey and more shooty-kung-fooey. Sure, there was plot silliness, but the action scenes were pretty good. I thought the meta commentary was humorous. Also, more cool sunglasses.

Yeah, I enjoyed it too. More than 2+3, not as much as 1. The flashbacks and homages that various professional critics disparaged, hit just fine with me; they were an essential part of the story being told - and the reminders of wtf happened in the earlier films was helpful.

I liked it a lot more upon rewatch.

I saw Matrix 4 last night. I guess given what they had to work with it was good. I mean the originals didn't leave a lot of wiggle room for a sequel but they made it not too painful.

One thing that I noticed which really annoyed me, so much I had to comment over and over again to my friends which I am sure pissed them off - the last 3rd of the movie there was a heavyset white guy with frosted white hair on Neo's "team". He wasn't part of the team at the beginning, I don't recall him being added. He just suddenly appeared with them working along side them. It was so jarring I couldn't stop talking about it every time he was on the screen. Perhaps there was some scene on the cutting room floor where he joined the crew.

Other than that the movie was fine. My son was upset there wasn't more shooting - to much talking he said which I kind of agree with. It was a franchise based on some cool fight scenes and this one was lacking on that front.

Still I am not unhappy they made it. I just don't think it was great.

farley3k wrote:

the last 3rd of the movie there was a heavyset white guy with frosted white hair on Neo's "team". He wasn't part of the team at the beginning, I don't recall him being added. He just suddenly appeared with them working along side them.

He was one of the other captains / volunteers, right? Except since they were then inside the Matrix his visual appearance was slightly different from in the “real world” city, Io.