E3 2020 Predictions & Wishes... Oh Wait

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Alright so obviously there is no E3 this year, but I still expect publishers and platform holders to release news and info that they were planning to release at E3 sometime this summer. This thread has becoming something of a community stable other the past few years so we might as well keep it going.

In lieu of E3 what do you expect to see announced this summer or what would you love to see announced?

We already have word that Microsoft is going to be showing off more Xbox Series X in just a week on May 7th at 11am ET via their InsideXbox stream. It is supposed to be the game-play world premiere of the first Series X games and not just old games running on Series X or on devkits/PC. This event will also serve as the world premiere of game-play for the new Assassin's Creed Valhalla.

I will try to update this post as more streams are announced.

Update 6-10-2020: Things have been pretty disorganized for me the past couple of weeks (buying a house and moving will do that I guess) and there have been a lot of changes to the schedules so I recommend getting your dates/times for events somewhere else for the time being. They don't cover everything but the Summer Game Fest page has a lot of stuff on it.

I'll throw in a few bold predictions. It's Nintendo heavy, but I tried to mix it up.

1. Bethesda shows off either Elder Scrolls VI or Starfield, and we get a release timeframe (probably at the launch of the next gen consoles).

2. We already have the word that Nintendo is rereleasing a bunch of 3D Mario games on the Switch, but I'll predict/hope it's in a Super Mario Bros. All Stars style package.

3. Either Mario Kart 9 or Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 gets announced for holiday 2020 as Nintendo's flagship title for the holiday season. I don't personally think of Mario Kart as being in the heavyweight class with Zelda, but then I look at the sales charts and realize that Nintendo probably does.

4. We get an unexpected Nintendo announcement of either a new Kid Icarus game or a new Pikmin game for Switch.

5. Geno is announced for Smash Bros. Ultimate as a DLC character.

6. Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles remake gets an announce date for summer 2020.

7. Watch Dogs Legion gets a release date for holiday season 2020. (Hard mode: It actually comes out in the summer, less than a month after the announcement)

8. Another Paradox game get announced for consoles. They mentioned on their podcast that the got really good response in terms of numbers from announcing Empire of Sin last year, so they'll try to hop into one of the big announcement parties again this year.

Delays, delays, delays. That's what I'm expecting to see. Lots of games with vague release windows and games that were expected to release in 2020 suddenly being talked about for 2021.

It's going to be a quiet year for gaming with subdued console launches.

I'm hoping to hear something... anything, about the new Batman game soon.

Sundown wrote:

I'll throw in a few bold predictions. It's Nintendo heavy, but I tried to mix it up.

1. Bethesda shows off either Elder Scrolls VI or Starfield, and we get a release timeframe (probably at the launch of the next gen consoles).

Todd Howard stated in an interview that Starfield will be out before ES6 so hopefully they show that off and announce a release date. It does seem kind of off that there wasn't a new main series Elder Scrolls game out this generation. I recently tried ESO during the free play weekend and was very meh on it.

I am hoping we get to see the next Dragon Age game in action and get a release date for it. Anything Mass Effect related would be great. Maybe even if they were to detail the big Anthem reworking they were supposed to be doing.

Dragon Age 4 plz...

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Would love to see a next-gen Dragon Age, but even if it's announced, I'm skeptical it'll arrive this year, coronavirus or not.

As always, I'll continue hoping for a new Prince of Persia, along with word on Beyond Good & Evil 2.

Warhammer 3: Total War.

Hmm summer game fest.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Delays, delays, delays. That's what I'm expecting to see. Lots of games with vague release windows and games that were expected to release in 2020 suddenly being talked about for 2021.

It's going to be a quiet year for gaming with subdued console launches.

Yeah, I had mentioned how Microsoft's new Play Anywhere strategy actually allows them to deal with a soft launch, as all the new games, I suspect for at least a year, probably two, will be easily played on last gen consoles. They can have the software launch of a new gen, without having the new console having to be a blockbuster. It's really all just continuing along.

But that assumes games are there. And the last clip I saw of Spencer was him saying that he expected no issues with launching consoles, but that they had a lot more issues with games not getting done. That's the actual challenge at this point. But once done, digital makes it all work better for a pandemic.

Sundown wrote:

I'll throw in a few bold predictions. It's Nintendo heavy, but I tried to mix it up.

1. Bethesda shows off either Elder Scrolls VI or Starfield, and we get a release timeframe (probably at the launch of the next gen consoles).

2. We already have the word that Nintendo is rereleasing a bunch of 3D Mario games on the Switch, but I'll predict/hope it's in a Super Mario Bros. All Stars style package.

3. Either Mario Kart 9 or Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 gets announced for holiday 2020 as Nintendo's flagship title for the holiday season. I don't personally think of Mario Kart as being in the heavyweight class with Zelda, but then I look at the sales charts and realize that Nintendo probably does.

4. We get an unexpected Nintendo announcement of either a new Kid Icarus game or a new Pikmin game for Switch.

5. Geno is announced for Smash Bros. Ultimate as a DLC character.

6. Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles remake gets an announce date for summer 2020.

7. Watch Dogs Legion gets a release date for holiday season 2020. (Hard mode: It actually comes out in the summer, less than a month after the announcement)

8. Another Paradox game get announced for consoles. They mentioned on their podcast that the got really good response in terms of numbers from announcing Empire of Sin last year, so they'll try to hop into one of the big announcement parties again this year.

Bro, I'll have two of what you're having! I fear this list is a trifle optimistic... But from your lips to God's ears!

Fedaykin98 wrote:
Sundown wrote:

I'll throw in a few bold predictions. It's Nintendo heavy, but I tried to mix it up.

1. Bethesda shows off either Elder Scrolls VI or Starfield, and we get a release timeframe (probably at the launch of the next gen consoles).

2. We already have the word that Nintendo is rereleasing a bunch of 3D Mario games on the Switch, but I'll predict/hope it's in a Super Mario Bros. All Stars style package.

3. Either Mario Kart 9 or Zelda: Breath of the Wild 2 gets announced for holiday 2020 as Nintendo's flagship title for the holiday season. I don't personally think of Mario Kart as being in the heavyweight class with Zelda, but then I look at the sales charts and realize that Nintendo probably does.

4. We get an unexpected Nintendo announcement of either a new Kid Icarus game or a new Pikmin game for Switch.

5. Geno is announced for Smash Bros. Ultimate as a DLC character.

6. Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles remake gets an announce date for summer 2020.

7. Watch Dogs Legion gets a release date for holiday season 2020. (Hard mode: It actually comes out in the summer, less than a month after the announcement)

8. Another Paradox game get announced for consoles. They mentioned on their podcast that the got really good response in terms of numbers from announcing Empire of Sin last year, so they'll try to hop into one of the big announcement parties again this year.

Bro, I'll have two of what you're having! I fear this list is a trifle optimistic... But from your lips to God's ears! :lol:

One one hand, yeah, you're probably right. But I think Clock said in another thread that anything near the end of the production cycle will make it out but everything else will likely be delayed, which sounds about right to me, and there's still several on this list that potentially fit the bill. And so for for the sake of discussion, I'll defend and amend some of the predictions.

1. I still think that one of Bethesda's games (forgot the part about Starfield coming first, so thanks Rykin) will be a launch title for new consoles, but that launch will be pushed back. I think it's reasonable we still get a new trailer for at least one of them.

2. Both Watch Dogs Legion and FF Crystal Chronicles were supposed to come out this year. FFCC was slated to be release in Summer 2020 (as of last December), and Watch Dogs was originally for early March 2020 before being delayed (before the pandemic). Looking at those dates, I think FF:CC is by far the more likely of the two to still come out this year. I don't know how many people on this forum actually care about FF:CC, but I never finished the original and would love to be able to both finish it and have the opportunity to party up with others without trying to scrape enough GBAs and link cables together, so it's on my radar.

3. The leaks about Mario seemed pretty solid, and this is an anniversary year, so I expect Nintendo to throw the resources at it to hit their target date. I could see people getting pulled off of other projects to assist if needed. But if they're just getting emulators of older games to work on the Switch and not doing a full remastering, the work could already be done or close to done.

4. If I actually had to pick one of Mario Kart and Zelda to come out this year, my guess is that Mario Kart would be easier to get it ship-shape; Zelda will be open world, and need a lot of polish and QA to quash the bugs to get it in an acceptable place by the holidays.

5. And what better time to announce Victoria 3? Even if it's not fully baked yet it can still be fixed by subsequent patches and DLC, which was going to happen anyway. (PDXCON? Never heard of it)

We are way overdue for a new Mario Kart by historical standards, so I hope you're right! I am one of those people for whom Mario Kart is a system seller. 8 was the greatest ever, and I happily double dipped for DX on the Switch.

The announcement I'm actually waiting for is technically not an E3 announcement: NVidia was slated to announce stuff about their next gen graphics cards in March, but it's morphed into a May 14 online stream.

For E3, predictions:
COVID-19 is both a great excuse to delay stuff that was already in trouble and a genuine cause of delay. In other words, I expect a lot of delays.

I want Watch Dogs Legion to come out this year, but I'm not holding my breath.

If XBox X actually launches in Q4, it'll be with a limited launch selection of games but there won't be much Microsoft will be able to do about it.

Riot will have a major publicity push for Valorant, and it'll be one of the summer titles that actually ships.

Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 will get delayed, because RPG fans can't catch a break.

Psychonauts 2 will be a Q3 release.

Minecraft Dungeons will make an appearance, get released this month on schedule.

Microsoft Flight Simulator will be a summer release. There will later be an updated version for the XBox X.

Cyberpunk 2077 will be delayed to Q1 2021.

Kerbal Space Program 2 won't have much new to show this year.

Gremlin wrote:

Cyberpunk 2077 will be delayed to Q1 2021.

I hope you are wrong on this one but I could see it happening. CDPR is so tight lipped that it is super hard to tell just at what stage in the development cycle they are in. What they showed off two years ago looked pretty darn good, but it may have mostly been smoke and mirrors.

Here is the Summer Games Fest thing from today: a new version of old Tony Hawk games.

I am actually kind of excited about this one. I love Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2X on OG Xbox and was hoping it would be supported by on the Xbox One via backward compatibility.

Man, not even a new Tony Hawk? I have just as much nostalgia as anyone, but this may be the remaster that broke the camel's back for me. I've never been annoyed by them before, I think.

Might have to pick this up, though!

Fedaykin98 wrote:

Man, not even a new Tony Hawk? I have just as much nostalgia as anyone, but this may be the remaster that broke the camel's back for me. I've never been annoyed by them before, I think.

Rage! Rage against the dying of the---

Might have to pick this up, though! :lol:

You are the problem!

Two of my most anticipated games are pretty much guaranteed to come out this year (Desperados III and Cyberpunk 2077) so everything else is gravy. The weird thing, for me, is I've already played seven games to completion. I'm not even under lockdown. Once I'm done Gears Tactics and XCOM: Chimera Squad, I'll be at nine games. I also Kickstarted (well Figged) Wasteland 3 and I'm very confident that will be out in August. This has been and will continue to be a very jam-packed game year for me.

FEED ME ALL OF YOUR TURN-BASED TACTICAL RPG GOODNESS!

Also I don't think AC: Valhalla will slip much. They usually release at the end of October and I can see this get pushed to November. Given they have 14 studios working on it, Ubisoft is pretty unique in their ability to move work around to fit shifting schedules.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

Man, not even a new Tony Hawk? I have just as much nostalgia as anyone, but this may be the remaster that broke the camel's back for me. I've never been annoyed by them before, I think.

Might have to pick this up, though! :lol:

This is more of a remake than a remaster. It features a new engine and they have added in tricks like reverts and manuals that weren't added until later in the series. It is being done by Vicarious Visions who did the excellent Crash Bandicoot remake and some of the staffers there worked on some of the older Tony Hawk games. Also features online multiplayer and a new skate park creator with online sharing. It’s coming to Xbox One, PC, and PlayStation 4 on September 4th and if you pre-order you get early access to the Warehouse level from THPS1.

That whole preorder bonus thing vaguely reminds me that there was a demo disc for the first game with only a single level that we played for hours and hours.

I dislike preorder bonuses of that nature, but I guess I don't blame them for wanting to incentivize full price sales.

IGN has a non-E3 event today at 3:45 Central.

Sony has their big thing Thursday at 3pm Central.

Bring on the Diablo 2 Remaster already.

Fedaykin98 wrote:

IGN has a non-E3 event today at 3:45 Central.

According to their web site, it's

  • 3:30 pm Central today (June 10th),
  • 1:30 pm Central June 11th,
  • 4:30 pm Central June 12th, and
  • 10:30 am Central June 15th.

Give or take my screwing up the conversion from Pacific to Central time.

Currently watching the DOOM Eternal speed run and wondering if I ought to swallow my pride and drop to Easy since I'm watching this speedrun and thinking "I did not have as easy a time as this".

EDIT: May as well drop the embed I suppose.

Speedrunners aren't human, and thus not really a good basis for comparison.

I'm watching this IGN stream and I have to say, these more decompressed streams are like the filler we used to get during E3, and they're not really to my taste.

Been watching a while now, and it's not at all surprising to me that they have that same filler feel. Part of it is just the... I dunno, "culture" of games press? Or streaming? You definitely have that "I just drank ten cans of Red Bull to kill my anxiety" personality. When they have actual gameplay demonstrations is when it is most enjoyable. Watching the Observer remaster demonstration now, which is a game I've never played but been interested in.

Yeah, it just reminded me that the last few years the only parts of the show I watched were the major press conferences (and inevitably skipped through the parts of those I wasn't interested in). I was watching it while paying bills and even then wound up turning it off.

Agreed that yesterday's IGN thing was pretty meh. Second Extinction look neat but the dino AI looks really bad right now (it is pre-beta though). They are just about to start the show for today:

Sony Stream Live now:

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