Coronavirus Tales

It will be quite some time before I'm willing to go maskless inside a public building or around strangers outside. The people most likely to have and be spreading covid (the defiantly unvaccinated) are also the most likely to lie about being vaccinated get out of having to wear a mask. And wearing a mask even though I'm vaccinated is such a small thing. It's like saying I'm living in fear of the sun because I use sunscreen even of I'm going to be in the shade most of the time.

As for places that still require masks even though they're not mandated anymore, I'm using that as a quick indicaction of how clean a place will be and whether they have a decent manager or not.

Pretty sure I'll wear a mask on airplanes for the rest of my life. I used to wonder at some people doing that when they traveled, if they were sick or something maybe they shouldn't be on the plane? But this last year+ has been a real wakeup. And this past winter's flu numbers prove to me that masks do a lot of good.

merphle wrote:

2) So I can still make funny faces at people without them knowing.

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*Legion* wrote:

I'm of the opinion that masks should remain a tool in our public health tool belt going forward.

I don't think wearing them in perpetuity is necessary. But when an airborne virus is actively on the rise, we should be able to temporarily slap on masks as a preventative measure, the way we slap on sunscreen in preparation for a day under the sun.

It should be a lightweight, low impact, early intervention measure.

Along with that, I think we should also prioritize better distancing when it comes to the development of public spaces.

Also, we should murder Close Talker Guy that works in every office.

I freaking hate that guy.

I regret keeping my mask in my back pocket during my Hollywood trip this weekend because it inevitably started to smell like my back pocket.

merphle wrote:

I've gotten all my shots, but I still wear a mask when I go into stores, for two reasons:

1) Solidarity! Many of the employees are still required (encouraged?) to wear masks, so I'll do what I can to help make them more comfortable.

2) So I can still make funny faces at people without them knowing.

… so I can curse people out under my breath without anyone being able to read my lips.

*Legion* wrote:

I'm of the opinion that masks should remain a tool in our public health tool belt going forward.

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Also, we should murder Close Talker Guy that works in every office.

Um, turns out that the entire country of Greece are Close Talker Folks. Something I've gotten used to, and now...well, I assume at some point I'll have to get used to this again. Greek personal space is roughly half of what the U.S. considers personal space. When I've gone to Italy...theirs is slightly smaller than Greece. Something to do with people in Greece kissing you two times in greeting, while in Italy, there's a third time.

One of the reasons I pushed my doctor not to let me teach in person until fully vaccinated is that I know the teens are still talking to each other, hugging, kissing, I'm going to bet licking each other, when nobody is supervising them. Big nope, nope, nope, nope to that.

Also, I get my second Moderna tonight.

Roo wrote:
*Legion* wrote:

I'm of the opinion that masks should remain a tool in our public health tool belt going forward.

...

Also, we should murder Close Talker Guy that works in every office.

Um, turns out that the entire country of Greece are Close Talker Folks. Something I've gotten used to, and now...well, I assume at some point I'll have to get used to this again. Greek personal space is roughly half of what the U.S. considers personal space. When I've gone to Italy...theirs is slightly smaller than Greece. Something to do with people in Greece kissing you two times in greeting, while in Italy, there's a third time.

One of the reasons I pushed my doctor not to let me teach in person until fully vaccinated is that I know the teens are still talking to each other, hugging, kissing, I'm going to bet licking each other, when nobody is supervising them. Big nope, nope, nope, nope to that.

Also, I get my second Moderna tonight.

Licking? Is that a thing now?

garion333 wrote:

Licking? Is that a thing now?

Not for Batman.

staygold wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Licking? Is that a thing now?

Not for Batman.

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Mixolyde wrote:
staygold wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Licking? Is that a thing now?

Not for Batman.

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I think we jumped threads.

lunchbox12682 wrote:
Mixolyde wrote:
staygold wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Licking? Is that a thing now?

Not for Batman.

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I think we jumped threads.

Said the artist to the DC suit.

Went to pick up my kids from daycare today. Was greeted by my 5 year old announcing to me "Dad, no masks tomorrow!!!" To which I said "...what?" And the teacher at the door said "Yeah, starting tomorrow vaccinated people don't need to wear masks at pickup and the kids don't need to wear masks." I was stunned and confused so I just said "...okay..." and put the kids in the car and went home. Vermont did just end its state of emergency due to hitting 80% of eligible population being vaccinated, which meant all mask requirements were gone, but also, the Department of Health still recommends that unvaccinated people, including kids under 12, continue wearing masks when inside.

I told my wife, who was even less thrilled about this than I was, and we emailed the owner of the school to express our confusion about what the policy was (maybe I had misheard the teacher or missed some nuance or the teacher had expressed it unclearly) and also explained that, assuming our kids are allowed to wear their masks, we would still want them to, which meant it was pretty sh*tty of them to tell our kids they didn't need to wear masks anymore, because of course having to correct the teacher and explain to our kids that they would still have to wear masks inside led to lots of tears.

The teacher basically wrote back saying "oh sorry, I'm on vacation right now so didn't have time to communicate about it, will try to do better next time, but yeah the policy is kids wearing masks inside is optional and no masks outside."

My wife and I engaged another dozen or so parents from the school on facebook basically to say "hey, WTF?" Some hadn't even heard (since the school did not communicate this any way other than yelling it at some of the kids as exciting news). There was some variance how alarmed everyone was. Some felt like the risk is pretty minimal--all the teachers are vaccinated and our county has had a total of 10 cases in the last week and odds are pretty good all of the parents are vaccinated (given Vermont's 80% vaccination). Some felt like there is zero reason they should adopt a policy less restrictive than the state health department's recommendations, even if masking the kids is hard and everyone is anxious to get back to normal. I felt both of those things! But everyone agreed this was abysmal communication and that completely haphazard way they have done this does not inspire confidence that they really thought any of it through. Why couldn't they have a)announced it in a clear written communication b)more than a few days in advance and c)solicited parents' input?

It's so frustrating. Given the state of childcare options, we pretty much just have to keep our fingers crossed and hope it works out. We're just gonna tell our kids they need to keep wearing their masks inside and hope everyone continues to be responsible and cases continue to stay low.

If it helps any, over here no kids up to 6 years old have to wear masks. Anywhere. Kindergarten has been either shut down (with emergency service for those who can't watch their kids/work from home), open but with separated small static groups of kids and personnel, or open as normal - depending on the incidence rate.

We've had zero cases that we know of with about 200 kids. There was only one scare when a kitchen worker tested positive. Everyone who had contact was home for 10 days and had to test negative at the end of it.

Germany has also been behind the US in vaccination percentage, and WAY behind Vermont. Kindergarten is in a middle/upper middle class area.

Back when I was teaching in person, in a mask, and kids were only required to wear masks inside the building, my summary of the situation was, "Great. So we start off the morning safe, and then during the first break, all of the kids go outside and lick each other."

If you see these kids talking to each other from a distance of....3 inches (10.5 cm) at best...you, too, would complain about being creeped out by all the kids licking each other. Especially when they're eating at that distance from each other.

AUs_TBirD wrote:

If it helps any, over here no kids up to 6 years old have to wear masks. Anywhere. Kindergarten has been either shut down (with emergency service for those who can't watch their kids/work from home), open but with separated small static groups of kids and personnel, or open as normal - depending on the incidence rate.

We've had zero cases that we know of with about 200 kids. There was only one scare when a kitchen worker tested positive. Everyone who had contact was home for 10 days and had to test negative at the end of it.

Germany has also been behind the US in vaccination percentage, and WAY behind Vermont. Kindergarten is in a middle/upper middle class area.

Same for Belgium, up to 10 years old in school. And everyone is being cool about it too, I haven't seen much of the under-nose thing lately nor people complaining about mask mandates.

Roo wrote:

"Great. So we start off the morning safe, and then during the first break, all of the kids go outside and lick each other."

I have such a clear and vivid picture of this happening in my imagination.

If you want to talk about kids licking each other, take it to Parler or 4chan.

Thanks, that is helpful. Certainly the thing that makes me most comfortable with all of this is just seeing just how poorly my 2 year old wears his mask...hard to imagine how well that's protecting anyone. It's probably going to be fine. I just wish they hadn't rushed into this and that they hadn't told the kids "hooray no more masks!" without having talked to parents. Will be interested to hear how today goes... If my kids are among the few still wearing masks, is it worth telling them they need to keep it up? I dunno.

One of the things I still find so confusing about masks . . . I ran into a store last night where most people weren't wearing masks, but there was a couple in front of me who were both older and very overweight, so clearly had some additional COVID risks factors, and both were wearing masks. Under their nose.

I mean, I have no issues with people still wearing masks, and I have no doubt I'll put them on when flu season starts again or if COVID starts kicking up again, but, if you're still wearing masks, why are you not wearing them properly?

Those are the same people who get COVID and then say, “But I did everything I was supposed to. How did this happen?”

I have friends who got COVID and then used that line while my inner dialogue screams, except for that concert you went to at church and that water slide park where you took your kids and maybe some other places you went that you haven’t told me about.

Second Moderna last night. Brain is melting with fever. Looking forward to it just suddenly getting better. The people at the vaccine center, mostly military, were simply amazing, again.

I still feel like I should wear a mask as much to tell the other person, "look how much I'm not infecting you.". Once my two weeks are up...I still see going half and half. Barbecues with my vaccinated friends, no masks, but any kind of random crowd...mask. Many restaurants got the message here, and have outdoor, socially distanced seating.

Greece is going very fast with a variety of vaccines, and huge numbers getting their shots each day, because tourism...we need a bunch. I can now print my euro vaccinated pass, and/or have proof as an app.

Hopeful. Kind of hopeful.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

One of the things I still find so confusing about masks . . . I ran into a store last night where most people weren't wearing masks, but there was a couple in front of me who were both older and very overweight, so clearly had some additional COVID risks factors, and both were wearing masks. Under their nose.

I mean, I have no issues with people still wearing masks, and I have no doubt I'll put them on when flu season starts again or if COVID starts kicking up again, but, if you're still wearing masks, why are you not wearing them properly?

I've seen this too. It's so confusing. The only explanation I could come up with is that they're anti-vax morons that are too dumb to realize that they can just lie about being vaccinated.

Got my first Pfizer shot about 24h ago. I asked the doctor about the tip I saw here, to leave you arm hanging to avoid stiffness, and he said that as long as you try to relax your arm as much as possible it's okay.

Which I did, and so far (emphasis on so far) absolutely no side effects!

(I jinxed it now, didn't I)

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Oof lol

I had been feeling pretty smug about not getting any symptoms from either of my Moderna shots. Well, yesterday I went and got the shingles vaccine. Right after dinner tonight I started to feel a little fever coming on. At this moment I’ve got the chills something fierce. At 50yo I really shouldn’t be having delusions of invincibility, but I really did think that I was going to eat that shingles vaccine for breakfast. The doc who administered the shot even told me that the shingles vaccine has a much higher rate of causing flu like symptoms than the COVID shots. Now I’m watching Looney Toons from 1966. Before that i finished watching the last few episodes of Rick and Morty. Both feel like I’m watching a fever dream with the accompanying fever to boot.

Yeah I've heard that one is rough. But not as rough as shingles

Stele wrote:

Yeah I've heard that one is rough. But not as rough as shingles

Good news! In 8 or more weeks I’m due back for my second shingles shot.

SHOT ON A SHINGLE! SHAT ON A SHINGLE! WILLIAM SHATNER ON A SHINGLE!

The doc didn’t tell me that the vaccine would up my joke writing abilities.

RawkGWJ wrote:
Stele wrote:

Yeah I've heard that one is rough. But not as rough as shingles

Good news! In 8 or more weeks I’m due back for my second shingles shot.

SHOT ON A SHINGLE! SHAT ON A SHINGLE! WILLIAM SHATNER ON A SHINGLE!

The doc didn’t tell me that the vaccine would up my joke writing abilities.

Good news! It didn't!