NFL 2020: Offseason

1. Legion, I will take either of your first round pics for OBJ. Call me...

2. Big Dick Nick is perfect for the Pats, where they have the biggest dicks in the NFL.

3. Is Austin Hooper really an upgrade over David Njoku?

4. Can the Browns do some trade with the Texans? Do they have any assets worth trading? We have some magic beans if Bill O is interested?

5. I look forward to Tom doing what everyone else in Boston does when they get old... moving to Orlando.

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Chris Mortensen reports:

The Panthers and Teddy Bridgewater are negotiating a 3-year contract in the $60 million range, per source. The deal is not done as they work out details but it is expected to be complete when new league year opens Wednesday.

Wow I would actually be happy the Panthers are on my local TV every week.

I might have to even go to some games finally.

Update from earlier: Panthers apparently will sign Teddy B. Meanwhile, Cam's still on the roster.

Way to step on all the rakes, Carolina.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

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3. Is Austin Hooper really an upgrade over David Njoku?

Oh yeah. Hooper is legit and likely been held back in the red zone due to Matty Ice.

I think Hooper and Njoku on the same team is ideal and hope to hell they don't trade Njoku.

UpToIsomorphism wrote:

1. Legion, I will take either of your first round pics for OBJ. Call me...

#31 for OBJ and the Texans compensatory 3rd.

3. Is Austin Hooper really an upgrade over David Njoku?

He would be, but Njoku is not who he's replacing. Your coach is now Kevin Stefanski, who ran more 2TE in Minnesota last year than any other team in the league. Hooper is taking your 3rd WR off the field.

There's a possibility they move Njoku if the new staff just doesn't like him, but one way or another, this team is likely to run 2TE heavily. And Njoku is cheap enough (and the Browns flush with cap space) that there isn't much cap reason to move him.

4. Can the Browns do some trade with the Texans? Do they have any assets worth trading? We have some magic beans if Bill O is interested?

You already sent them Duke Johnson for that compensatory 3rd that you're sending to SF along with OBJ. You got your turn at the Texans trade trough.

5. I look forward to Tom doing what everyone else in Boston does when they get old... moving to Orlando.

Orlando is part of Jacksonville's extended market area. Brady to Jags and Foles to Patriots, done.

Enix wrote:

Update from earlier: Panthers apparently will sign Teddy B. Meanwhile, Cam's still on the roster.

Way to step on all the rakes, Carolina.

Hardest part for Cam will be the fact that his medical is not at all assured, and teams aren't going to be able to get their doctors and him in the same place for evaluation.

It's no coincidence that the guys that have been moved to other teams have largely been players whose health isn't in question (Buckner, Diggs, Hopkins, Conklin, etc) - excepting, of course, if Bill O'Brien is the "GM" acquiring the player.

*Legion* wrote:

Orlando is part of Jacksonville's extended market area. Brady to Jags and Foles to Patriots, done.

I feel like based on recent relative success levels, the people of Orlando are going to have to consider whether that's an insult or not. Then again, their other option is Tampa, so . . .

Bears are releasing Leonard Floyd instead of picking up 5th year option. I know he hasn't been outstanding, but this likely has nothing to do with the $9 mil cap anchor Trubisky carries. Floyd carried a $13 mil price, which is the third highest on the team, so I get it from that perspective.

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garion333 wrote:

I know he hasn't been outstanding

That might be underselling it. Of edge rushers that had at least 290 pass rush snaps, he ranked 55 out of 60 in PFF's pass rush productivity metric in 2019. 3 sacks on 407 pass rushes.

And since I just looked at the table to check that, I couldn't help but notice that 58th out of 60 was Clelin Ferrell. *snicker*

EDIT: oh there's another piece to the Floyd story. The Bears just brought in Robert Quinn with a $70m deal.

*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

I know he hasn't been outstanding

That might be underselling it. Of edge rushers that had at least 290 pass rush snaps, he ranked 55 out of 60 in PFF's pass rush productivity metric in 2019. 3 sacks on 407 pass rushes.

And since I just looked at the table to check that, I couldn't help but notice that 58th out of 60 was Clelin Ferrell. *snicker*

EDIT: oh there's another piece to the Floyd story. The Bears just brought in Robert Quinn with a $70m deal.

Ooooooh, didn't realize he was meant to be an edge rusher. How can you not be amazing at rushing when the entire O is focused on Mack?

Robert Quinn, eh? Not terrible, but an awful lot of money. Ryan Pace going after the guy he wants, again.

garion333 wrote:

Ooooooh, didn't realize he was meant to be an edge rusher.

It's funny you say that, because I didn't either until I looked it up. I remember him in the draft as an off-ball LB.

But the Bears have been lining him up on the edge and rushing him on over 70% of pass snaps, so a little more dropping into coverage than some pure edge rushers, but still predominantly edge rushing.

My SO is pretty sure Brady is headed to Tampa /shrug

karmajay wrote:

My SO is pretty sure Brady is headed to Tampa /shrug

A lot of unconfirmed reports saying this right now.

Congrats on your new-to-you non-rapist QB, Bucs fans.

Jags sign Joe Schobert, meh.

Jags sign Joe Schobert to 5 year deal, meh.

Jags sign Joe Schobert to 5 year, $53.75 million deal... ehhhhh.

I mean, I could see Schobert bouncing back from a down 2019, but I don't think the Jaguars are in a position to be committing long-term deals to players at non-premium positions.

This absolutely should mean that Myles Jack is back at OLB, which would help his performance a lot.

*Legion* wrote:
karmajay wrote:

My SO is pretty sure Brady is headed to Tampa /shrug

A lot of unconfirmed reports saying this right now.

Congrats on your new-to-you non-rapist QB, Bucs fans.

Too little too late for the 2 people that used to be Bucs fans on the forum.

Rat Boy wrote:

Rivers to the Colts.

Might as well. Between the Jags leaning into another rebuild, the Texans just giving their team away, and the Titans betting big on Ryan Tannehill as a long-term success rather than being a Foles/Fitzmagick/McCown like half-season wonder, the AFC South is pretty much free real estate.

karmajay wrote:

My SO is pretty sure Brady is headed to Tampa /shrug

So's Adam Schefter.

Edit: And ESPN's non-Sportcenter shows have found a way around the quarantines:

For the first time since 2006, Rivers has a good offensive line.

Bengals signed FAs! They gave a bunch of money to D.J. Reader and Trae Wayne.

Reader is an elite run stopping NT with some wiggle and I assume his signing is in large part due to the division they're in with teams who run the ball well. Smart move by the Bengals.

Trae Waynes I'm a little less sure about. The guy is fast? I'm reading that he's a better tackler than Kirkpatrick so the writing is on the wall for Kirkpatrick.

Both make sense for the Bengals based on their divisionmates. I think they're smart-ish moves because the price tags were awfully high. Then again, they're in the QB rookie contract phase so they have money to use.

Cowboys sign Gerald McCoy to a three year deal, which is fine, though he hasn't been elite in the past couple of seasons. Last time I checked he wasn't a DB so I don't know what they're doing.

The fact the Boys kept Dak and Cooper is surprising and welcome since that pairing is hella good for fantasy.

Omg, the Lions shelled out $50 mil over 5 years for OT Vaitai. You know, the backup to Jason Peters in Philly who is best known as a turnstile. He's played better the past two seasons, but he's far from good. This has to essentially be a two year deal with them free to run away afterward.

Just mind boggling to me.

Tom Brady, Tampa Bay Buccaneers QB. And, just as importantly, Jameis Winston, Not Tampa Bay Buccaneers QB.

Wow, maybe I can actually root for a team again that doesn't happily employ scumball rapists, and . . . wait, what are these stories about Antonio Brown doing here?

garion333 wrote:

Omg, the Lions shelled out $50 mil over 5 years for OT Vaitai. You know, the backup to Jason Peters in Philly who is best known as a turnstile. He's played better the past two seasons, but he's far from good. This has to essentially be a two year deal with them free to run away afterward.

Just mind boggling to me.

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Antonio Brown just livestreamed that he wants to play in Baltimore.

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Tom Brady, Tampa Bay Buccaneers QB. And, just as importantly, Jameis Winston, Not Tampa Bay Buccaneers QB.

I will never get used to seeing the GOAT wearing THAT jersey.

Rat Boy wrote:

Big Dick Nick is a Bear.

Huh. That makes it less likely that Cam winds up in Chicago, which was one of rumored landing places.

Edit: Just saw a Tweet from a guy who covers Carolina. Says Cam-to-Chicago was never a thing bc Bears are worried about Cam's health.

Next up: Chargers.

Rat Boy wrote:

Big Dick Nick is a Bear.

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