[News] Coronavirus

A place to discuss the now-global coronavirus outbreak.

FiveIron wrote:

I was supposed to come home from europe this last week but my partner got covid so i was forced to go my parents instead. It's been about 10 days since she started showing symptoms and 8 since a positive test. she is still showing mild symptoms and positive at home tests. we are really wanting to see each other, but it still seems risky considering how close of contact we would have. everything we can find on the internet though says that she would not be contagious at this point though. Can a person really not be contagious when they have a positive at home test?

If she still has symptoms and still tests positive, assume she's still contagious. Her quarantine shouldn't end until 5-10 days after her symptoms end or when she stops testing positive.

CDC guidelines: Quarantine and Isolation

Pfizer says their third shot for kids under 5 is doing what they hoped and will submit it for authorization soon. The FDA is set to review it on June 15th. June 15th is also when the FDA will finally get around to reviewing what Moderna submitted for their under 5 vaccine back on May 9th. Still no reasonable explanation has been offered on why the FDA has dragged its heels on reviewing the Moderna vaccine.

Yeah some bullsh*t about not wanting to approve one and then find out the other is better. But if one of my kids catch covid in the next month it's their fault.

Edit: 2 months I guess? Sounds like the 3rd dose has to wait, so almost 90 days until full coverage. Good grief

T cells protect against COVID-19 in absence of antibody response

When the researchers vaccinated the mice either through the nose or by injection, the animals developed T cells that could recognize the early SARS-CoV-2 strain and the Beta variant. The vaccines also caused the mice to develop antibodies that could neutralize the early strain. However, they failed to create antibodies that neutralized the Beta variant.

The team exposed the mice to SARS-CoV-2 around 3 to 5 months after vaccination. Vaccinated mice had very low levels of virus in their lungs compared with unvaccinated mice and were protected against severe illness. This was true of infection with the Beta variant as well. This showed that the vaccine provided protection against the Beta variant despite failing to produce effective antibodies against it.

Amazed he lasted this long. Hope he recovers well.

Fauci tests positive for Covid-19

Both Moderna's and Pfizer's vaccine for kids 6 months to 5 years were unanimously recommended for FDA approval. The FDA still has to actually approve them, and then the CDC has to convene it's own advisory committee before it grants authorization. Assuming all those happen (there's no reason to expect they won't), kids will be able to start getting vaccinated on June 21st. Moderna's vaccine is two 25 microgram doses 28 days apart. Pfizer's is three 10 microgram doses spread out over 11 weeks (21 days between the 1st and 2nd doses, and 8 weeks between the 2nd and 3rd doses).

Stengah wrote:

Both Moderna's and Pfizer's vaccine for kids 6 months to 5 years were unanimously recommended for FDA approval. The FDA still has to actually approve them, and then the CDC has to convene it's own advisory committee before it grants authorization. Assuming all those happen (there's no reason to expect they won't), kids will be able to start getting vaccinated on June 21st. Moderna's vaccine is two 25 microgram doses 28 days apart. Pfizer's is three 10 microgram doses spread out over 11 weeks (21 days between the 1st and 2nd doses, and 8 weeks between the 2nd and 3rd doses).

Florida is not going to order any doses, because...yeah.

Hoping we can jump on that next week. Dodged all this time with 2 kids under 5 and don't want them to get it this close to finally getting a vaccine

My old manager went to a wedding last weekend.... Ended up being a super-spreader event with the majority of people they know that attended the wedding getting it (including him and his wife), and parents of both the bride and groom.

I'm going to continue to avoid small enclosed spaces....

Looks like CDC approval happened for the kids under 5 today. Doses shipping as we speak.

Thankfully, King Desantis caved to pressure from literally everyone and will actually do something ti protect Florida kids.

Facing withering pressure from medical professionals and the federal government, Florida began to allow pediatricians, children’s hospitals and other physicians on Friday to order coronavirus vaccines for the youngest children, according to state and White House officials. The shift would ensure that families would be able to get the shots at doctors’ offices, though later than in every other state in the country.

The White House praised the move as an important first step, calling it a “reversal” by Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican with presidential ambitions who frequently casts himself as a foil to President Biden.

Well, back here in South Africa, we are completely back to normal. All Covid regulations have been dropped.

The last wave we had was minor and almost everyone in my immediate circle has now had Covid.

Guess we'll see how this turns out...

I'm a week and a half removed from a trip to Las Vegas and I feel like no symptoms afterwards is the real jackpot.

Just in time for the 4th of July

Omicron subvariants BA.4 and BA.5 appear to escape antibody responses among both people who had previous Covid-19 infection and those who have been fully vaccinated and boosted, according to new data from researchers at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, of Harvard Medical School.
However, Covid-19 vaccination is still expected to provide substantial protection against severe disease, and vaccine makers are working on updated shots that might elicit a stronger immune response against the variants.

BA.4 and BA.5 caused an estimated 35% of new Covid-19 infections in the United States last week, up from 29% the week before, according to data shared by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Tuesday.

BA.4 and BA.5 are the fastest spreading variants reported to date, and they are expected to dominate Covid-19 transmission in the United States, United Kingdom and the rest of Europe within the next few weeks, according to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control.

Rat Boy wrote:

I'm a week and a half removed from a trip to Las Vegas and I feel like no symptoms afterwards is the real jackpot.

You should immediately go back because it sounds like you're on a lucky streak!

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OG_slinger wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:

I'm a week and a half removed from a trip to Las Vegas and I feel like no symptoms afterwards is the real jackpot.

You should immediately go back because it sounds like you're on a lucky streak!

The only night I had any gambling success on that trip was when I put a $20 bill into an old fashioned video blackjack machine and came out with $21. I hiked half a mile across the casino to find a machine to cash out my ticket, even though there was one two feet from the blackjack machine in the direction I didn't look in. I figured I was getting out of Vegas with an extra dollar and my dignity. Next day flying out, TSA tells me I was randomly selected to go through the X-Ray vision contraption, and there went my dignity.

President Joe Biden Tests Positive For COVID

I hope he has a mild bout but I do wonder how different things would be if he died, Kamala became pres and had two years in office.

He's a lot healthier than the last guy and he survived

farley3k wrote:

President Joe Biden Tests Positive For COVID

I hope he has a mild bout but I do wonder how different things would be if he died, Kamala became pres and had two years in office.

If you think the Obama years were bad on the dog whistle racism, the GOP base will lose its collective mind over a non white woman in the White House.

farley3k wrote:

I hope he has a mild bout but I do wonder how different things would be if he died, Kamala became pres and had two years in office.

The meme of 2023: "Thanks Kamala".

I still don't get why no one is talking about the latest variant. Practically everyone is getting it.
My wife finally tested negative this morning after first testing positive on the 11th.

It can't get any closer to me than that and we are very careful and live in a careful county.

fangblackbone wrote:

I still don't get why no one is talking about the latest variant. Practically everyone is getting it.
My wife finally tested negative this morning after first testing positive on the 11th.

It can't get any closer to me than that and we are very careful and live in a careful county.

I think they're not talking about it (much) because there isn't anything they can really do at this point. They could take action, but they're not going to reverse all the relaxing of rules.

Case in point...

My girlfriend and I are both 2nd timers now. She got it last week, I developed symptoms this past Sunday but didn't pop a positive till Tuesday. I called the company I work for last Thursday to advise them of the situation and explain that she was positive and I was still negative and assumed that would soon get it. I was told that because I still had a negative test I was encouraged to return to the office and wear a mask. Which is just dumb.

I declined, isolated, and worked from home the rest of last week because I didn't want to run the chance of getting my team sick prior to developing symptoms.

Sometimes I think that people imagine the modern Presidency has a lot more power than it actually does. Most everything a President can do can be reversed by the next one, and their legislative power is limited to the veto...

JC wrote:
fangblackbone wrote:

I still don't get why no one is talking about the latest variant. Practically everyone is getting it.
My wife finally tested negative this morning after first testing positive on the 11th.

It can't get any closer to me than that and we are very careful and live in a careful county.

I think they're not talking about it (much) because there isn't anything they can really do at this point. They could take action, but they're not going to reverse all the relaxing of rules.

I think the other reason is that the new variant's more contagious than the last one, but it's still not more severe. You're not more likely to die or be hospitalized from this version than you were from the last one, and we actually have some relatively effective treatments now for people who do get a severe case. Plus the vaccines.

And at this point I think everyone is just tired of hearing about it. The people who haven't gotten a vaccine by now probably aren't going to, and people are still going to not wear masks or tear them off the instant they set one foot outside whatever building requires them. It's been over two years now - people know what they're supposed to do. Some will keep doing it, and some will just not care.

Keldar wrote:

It's been over two years now - people know what they're supposed to do. Some will keep doing it, and some will just not care.

Glossing over the giant amount of nuance in that over that two years, official advice on "what you're supposed to do" has varied wildly from "don't leave your home" to "maybe wear a mask if you're immunocompromised". It's no wonder a lot of people don't even know what the official advice even is anymore.

My wife tested positive on the 11th.
There is no one stop shop for what I'm supposed to do.
She continued to test positive and I for whatever reason continued to test negative.
She isolated. I mostly remained at home. I always wore an n95 mask when I did things like go to the grocery store. We did nothing but order in for at least 3 days. At some point I decided to wear the n95 and do 5-10 minutes in the store.
We are both double vaxed and boosted.

But finding all the "If I am repeatedly negative, can I still carry enough disease to infect someone?"
"After how many days do the risk of infection drop?"

I saw that people with more severe infections can stay infectious up to 20 days.

The fact that we are not keeping up with informing the public is a tragedy.
And we just in the last week have started seeing commercials for the antiviral, which would have been helpful last week...

The problem is what you should do is generally not what many employers want people to do. I picked it up but didn't get any symptoms for a week, then isolated as best I could after I tested positive. We were pretty certain that at least one of our kids had already gotten it from me before the symptoms started (we were right), one had. We considered my wife as having recurring close contact so she worked from home until 5 days after everyone had tested negative again. We did contactless pickup for everything we needed, and if it wasn't available we decided we'd just have to wait. Only me and then one of our kids ever tested positive (she was completely asymptomatic, not so much as even a cough), but it was still about three weeks of isolation before we felt it was safe to go anywhere. My wife and other kid were both vaccinated, and my wife had a booster back in December. They were both exposed to it plenty, so we credited them not getting it to the vaccine, and my mild symptoms to the vaccine too (the one that did get it is 4, and the day I likely picked it up was the day before the vaccine got approval for kids under 5).

I found the relatively new Test To Treat program when I was looking up what I should do about treatment, but my symptoms were almost nonexistent and already going away so I didn't feel like it was worth going in for it. It might vary by state, but the locator tool on my state's .gov site had more locations than the federal one and the state info site also noted that not only was the testing free, most of the medications you could get prescribed are provided for free too. I don't think any of the federal sites that I found about the program mentioned that the medications could be provided for free, which is pretty important information when trying to convince people to go to them.

2 and a half years after all this started and I’ve tested positive for the first time. Balls.