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THIS IS HOW THE BRITS TRY TO TAKE BACK THE COLONIES

Interesting. Was wondering the other day if the UK strain had taken over in US as well. Looks like it has. In Denmark more than 90% of new cases are apparently the UK variant, so it has completely replaced the other ones.
Should have made that sea wall as part of Brexit :/

Does this mean we can start calling it "the British virus" now and throw racial epithets at anyone we see walking around wearing a bowler hat or eating a scone?

Asking for a friend.

Vaccine Development, Covid-19, and MRNA

Keldar wrote:

Does this mean we can start calling it "the British virus" now and throw racial epithets at anyone we see walking around wearing a bowler hat or eating a scone?

Asking for a friend.

I heard it came from a lab in Ipswich!

Quintin_Stone wrote:
Keldar wrote:

Does this mean we can start calling it "the British virus" now and throw racial epithets at anyone we see walking around wearing a bowler hat or eating a scone?

Asking for a friend.

I heard it came from a lab in Ipswich!

I heard it was brought here from outer space by some kind of fake doctor who's also an alien.

Got my J&J shot this morning, let the follow up symptoms waiting begin!

Quintin_Stone wrote:
Keldar wrote:

Does this mean we can start calling it "the British virus" now and throw racial epithets at anyone we see walking around wearing a bowler hat or eating a scone?

Asking for a friend.

I heard it came from a lab in Ipswich!

I heard it was from Notlob, and is particularly deadly for the Norwegian Blue.

Spoiler:

Poor thing; it had such beautiful plumage.

Keldar wrote:

Does this mean we can start calling it "the British virus" now and throw racial epithets at anyone we see walking around wearing a bowler hat or eating a scone?

We really do need variant names that are more memorable than the phylogenetic keyboard-mashing that gives us "B.1.351," for example. So we keep coming back to "the [nation or region] variant."

Experts also want to do away with names that associate a variant with the country or region in which it was identified. “We would like this nomenclature to be easily understood and not include country names, because we want to remove any of the geopolitical issues,” Van Kerkhove said. “We are trying to avoid ‘the UK variant’, ‘the South African variant’, ‘the Brazil variant’ — and there will be more variants.”

Variants are not necessarily identified in the country where they emerged, and fast-spreading variants such as B.1.1.7 (or VOC 202012/01, if you prefer) that are spotted in one nation will eventually spill out into the wider world. Geographical associations could also stigmatize countries and so discourage surveillance, Pybus adds. “The last thing we want to do is dissuade any particular place from reporting they’ve got a new concerning variant — in fact, we want to do the opposite.”

When South African researchers identified a worrying variant, they avoided including the country in its name at the request of South Africa’s president and health minister, says team member Tulio de Oliveira, a bioinformatician at the University of KwaZulu-Natal in Durban. They opted to call it 501Y.V2; it is now also called B.1.351 under the system that Pybus’s team developed. Until researchers agree on a less confusing naming system, de Oliviera expects the media and public to continue to use ‘the South African variant’. “The nomenclature is a bloody mess at the moment,” he adds.

I mean... Covid 19.1 | Covid 19.2 etc
Problem Solved.

BRITISH INVASION!

Oh yeah, I'll tell you somethin'
I think you'll understand
When I say that somethin'
I want to hold your ACE2
...
And when I touch you
I inject my RNA inside
It's such a feelin' that my love
I can't hide
lunchbox12682 wrote:

Got my J&J shot this morning, let the follow up symptoms waiting begin!

Fwiw, my wife's and my own symptoms took about six or eight hours to manifest and then it was a wave of tired.

24 hours later pretty much normal.

That guy hasn't travelled much, right?
We already require vaccinations when travelling between some countries.

Got my 2nd Pfizer shot at lunch. I was the 81st person my nurse had stuck today.

polypusher wrote:

I mean... Covid 19.1 | Covid 19.2 etc
Problem Solved.

In theory it would be COVID-20, COVID21.1, and COVID-21.2.

I had my second Moderna shot Wednesday afternoon. Arm felt achy that night. Woke up and my whole body was aching. Went from slightly depressed temperature to low grade fever in the morning. Stayed in bed and watched the Snyder Cut of Justice League. Woke up today feeling fine.

Moggy wrote:

watched the Snyder Cut of Justice League. Woke up today feeling fine.

I feel the need to rush in and remind folks that correlation != causation.

garion333 wrote:
lunchbox12682 wrote:

Got my J&J shot this morning, let the follow up symptoms waiting begin!

Fwiw, my wife's and my own symptoms took about six or eight hours to manifest and then it was a wave of tired.

24 hours later pretty much normal.

Yeah, last night kind of sucked, but I think other than tired I'm through it.

Got my second Moderna shot this morning!

Just got my J&J shot. Yay for gaining 40lbs during the pandemic to make me qualified.

TheGameguru wrote:

Just got my J&J shot. Yay for gaining 40lbs during the pandemic to make me qualified.

Oof. I feel this one. =(

my coworkers in Kansas are telling me that folks there are opting to stay on waiting lists rather than get the J&J shot. I think that's a little silly.

Paleocon wrote:

my coworkers in Kansas are telling me that folks there are opting to stay on waiting lists rather than get the J&J shot. I think that's a little silly.

Absolutely. J&J will keep you out of the hospital and the ground.

It was a no-brainer for me.

Got a Pfizer shot because it was the first available, but was talking with a friend a few weeks ago that we'd happily take J&J. I have no doubt getting COVID would be really unpleasant, but I've had really unpleasant bouts of the flu and other stuff, and the peace of mind knowing I wasn't going to get COVID so bad I'd be stuck on a ventilator or die was enough. Any vaccine is good enough if it keeps you from being hospitalized.

Regarding J&J, I'm scheduled to get mine on Saturday. Should I be worried that North Carolina has stopped using that vaccine due to a higher number of adverse reactions?

I don't think so. CDC says it's normal and to keep going.

According to Wake County officials, a vaccine clinic at the PNC Arena in Raleigh was put on hold around 3:30 p.m. after 18 people had “adverse reactions” to the Johnson & Johnson vaccine during the required 15-minute post-vaccination monitoring period.

Officials said 14 of those people had minor reactions and were treated on site. Four others were transported to area hospitals where they were evaluated. All but one have since been released,

According to the CDC, the patients experienced symptoms like nausea, dizziness, fainting and one allergic reaction. Wake County health officials said all the reactions to the vaccinations were “consistent with known common side effects from receiving the vaccine.”

Edit: AND

Two UNC Health clinics plan to resume appointments for the J&J vaccine on Saturday after the CDC informed them on Friday morning that it “found no evidence of a safety concern for the J&J vaccine" after looking at cases in North Carolina and other states.

I wonder what the proximity was between the people experiencing side effects was? Was anxiety heightened of people seeing others have reactions or ambulances arriving?

My head was swimming a bit during my 15 minutes. I couldn’t decide if that was excitement and relief, or anxious anticipation of a reaction that never happened, or an actual reaction. After my time was up I drove home without incident.

Nevin73 wrote:

Should I be worried that North Carolina has stopped using that vaccine due to a higher number of adverse reactions?

North Carolina only paused using the J&J vaccine at three sites after the reports of adverse reactions. Most of the adverse reactions--which, again, was *way* less than 1% of the people vaccinated at those sites--were just people fainting. I'd reckon that a portion of the people attracted to the J&J vaccine are folks who hate needles and would much rather get jabbed only once which could have contributed to the fainting.

The CDC also analyzed the lot the vaccines came from and didn't find any cause for concern. They gave the all clear for those three NC sites to resume using the J&J vaccine last night and again this morning.

Paleocon wrote:

my coworkers in Kansas are telling me that folks there are opting to stay on waiting lists rather than get the J&J shot. I think that's a little silly.

No one I know. Everyone i talk to hopes for the JnJ.

That said, just got Pfizer no. 2!