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This 100-Year-Old PSA About The Spanish Flu Upscaled To 4K 60 FPS Is Eerily Familiar

1918. Dr. Wise on Influenza: 100 years of pandemics.

I’m fully expecting our Italy trip in April 2021 to be canceled again. This is the same previously planned trip that was postponed April of this year. A full year and we still wont have this under control.

WizKid wrote:

I’m fully expecting our Italy trip in April 2021 to be canceled again. This is the same previously planned trip that was postponed April of this year. A full year and we still wont have this under control.

I don't believe in the US we can even *start* getting a handle on this until we have a new president.

This is what happens when you don't implement lockdown's correctly;

There are several towns and cities in Northern England that were put into local lockdown measures due to the rate of infection (I'm in one, not any of those listed below though). Several weeks later the infection rates look like this:

In Bury, when restriction were introduced, the infection rate was around 20 per 100,000. Today it’s 266. In Burnley it was 21 per 100,000 when restriction were introduced. Now it’s 434. In Bolton it was 18 per 100,000. Now it’s 255.

Boris Johnson's own constituency (Hillingdon in North London) currently has an infection rate of 62 per 100,00. There are no local lockdown measures in place there at all.

The utter ineptitude of this government knows know bounds.

Can people stop acting like this is over?

COVID-19 cases rising in 39 states: 'We are overwhelmed'

U.S. coronavirus cases surpassed 7.5 million on Wednesday with most states seeing a rise in cases – nine months into the pandemic – and a startling nine states setting ominous, seven-day records for infections.

A USA TODAY analysis of Johns Hopkins data through late Tuesday shows Alaska, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Minnesota, Montana, North Dakota, Utah and Wyoming all set state records in the seven-day period. In all, 39 states reported more coronavirus cases in the last week than they had in the week before.

More than 210,000 Americans have died, and Wisconsin and Hawaii reported record numbers of deaths in their states for a seven-day period.

Based on the way that 1918 played out, I've been assuming that we're going to see a repeat, with the winter of 2020-2021 remembered as one of the deadliest periods in American history.

And it didn't have to be this way.

Yes. We tried half heartedly for a few months and then act like it is over.

There was never a real attempt to stop the pandemic.

This whole thing reads as a damning indictment of federalism, to be honest.

Because there were many smaller attempts at the state and local levels to stop the pandemic.

shocked face...not shocked ....

White House coronavirus outbreak may have exposed thousands from Atlanta to Minnesota

President Donald Trump and other White House insiders infected with COVID-19 carried the virus across the country in a matter of days, potentially exposing hundreds, perhaps thousands, of people as they went about their business, a USA TODAY investigation found.

The white house is still a COVID revolving door too. The total effects of this outbreak will not be revealed for a few weeks yet.

Buckle up.

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We're not better off in Europe, unfortunately. There's been a resurgence of cases.

There's not way to get a handle on this without a vaccine. Buckle up, people.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Buckle up.

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The projections are 3k dead a day by New Years...

slazev wrote:

We're not better off in Europe, unfortunately. There's been a resurgence of cases.

There's not way to get a handle on this without a vaccine. Buckle up, people.

Well, your resurgences are in the hundreds of cases. Our good days are in the tens of thousands of new cases..

OG_slinger wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

Buckle up.

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The projections are 3k dead a day by New Years...

And we'll have a checked-out (at best) lame-duck sociopath at the helm until Jan. 20.

Tanglebones wrote:
slazev wrote:

We're not better off in Europe, unfortunately. There's been a resurgence of cases.

There's not way to get a handle on this without a vaccine. Buckle up, people.

Well, your resurgences are in the hundreds of cases. Our good days are in the tens of thousands of new cases..

EU countries seems to be fair bit higher than US in daily cases right now. Assuming both are giving real numbers, and are testing enough to be accurate anyway.
However, deaths seems to be significantly lower.

Shadout wrote:

EU countries seems to be fair bit higher than US in daily cases right now.

I couldn't find any reporting for total new cases in the EU as a whole, so I added up the member states by hand, and you're right. There were about 61,000 new cases across the EU yesterday as compared with 46,000 new cases in the United States.

What struck me looking at each country's data was that with a handful of exceptions (go Cyprus and Estonia!) the curves were all up dramatically in the last month or two.

Are you talking about percentage or total cases? Cyprus & Estonia both have smaller populations than Hawaii. Cyprus, like Hawaii, has the Island in the middle of a lot of water advantage. I don't know much about Estonia but I imagine it isn't that population dense.

Side note: It's depressing that I potentially would have been traveling to Cyprus if it wasn't for the whole outbreak.

Cyprus and Estonia have both had 0 new cases for quite some time.

Jonman wrote:

This whole thing reads as a damning indictment of federalism, to be honest.

Because there were many smaller attempts at the state and local levels to stop the pandemic.

What angers me Among the things that anger me about this is the way those local and state efforts were thwarted or just shut down by fiat from higher-up. You've got the recent court decision in Michigan, KY's attorney general trying the same thing, GA and other governors blocking cities' mask orders... And then there's Kushner sabotaging states to steal PPE leading to farces like the MD police guarding shipments so the Feds don't seize them and the Patriots' plane secretly flying to China.

I'm a fan of Australian rules football, and I'm watching games played in front of real crowds with no masks. We could have that too except for our administration's utter malcompetence. When this started, I had boundless faith in the CDC being able to beat the virus here; the one thing I didn't consider is the administration telling the experts to go piss up a rope.

qaraq wrote:

malcompetence

that's a great word for a situation where an incompetent administration looks at the coronavirus as a chance to extort governors into a quid-pro-quo for things like PPE if they'll go on TV and praise Dear Leader.

Why telemedicine may actually be making healthcare more human

The barriers to quality in-person care don't just exist for people who live far from major medical centers. They span a broad range of patient populations. I never in a million years would have imagined my 87 year-old mother-in-law an enthusiastic Zoom adopter, but for the better part of the year it has been her lifeline to her church community. In the past few weeks, it has also become essential to her survival. As a sudden and still baffling set of symptoms have presented themselves, she has often been debilitatingly weak and frustratingly confused.

It's obvious how logistically and emotionally difficult it would be right now for her to go in person to the string of doctors she's been consulting with. For patients with disabilities, dementia, chronic pain or other inherent obstacles to travel, telemedicine can provide reassuring expertise without the burdens of transportation.

Timothy Snyder has written a new book called Our Malady that recounts his personal experience with the healthcare system and uses that as a launching point to analyze all the systemic issues with healthcare in the US, how we got here, the pandemic response, and policy suggestions for fixing it.

https://www.amazon.com/Our-Malady-Le...

I've seen Tim Snyder's name come up a few times lately and it's confusing because I went to college with a Tim Snyder and that's not him.

I've used telemedicine twice since the pandemic started and it was fine for those situations. Obviously it isn't the same as in person but not having to go anywhere was a plus.

I saw that NYT article about the long-term effects of COVID today and man everything is awesome right now.

Mixolyde wrote:

Timothy Snyder has written a new book called Our Malady that recounts his personal experience with the healthcare system and uses that as a launching point to analyze all the systemic issues with healthcare in the US, how we got here, the pandemic response, and policy suggestions for fixing it.

https://www.amazon.com/Our-Malady-Le...

I thought his interview on Gaslit Nation was strong.