[Discussion] Canadian Election 2019

In this thread we grouch about the Liberals, get angry at the conservatives, swoon over Jagmeet but regret his party affiliation, stare aghast at the racist party, and basically hope the Liberals have done enough to get a minority government.

Nothing ever f*cking changes here.

Not a single thread or even post about this. It’s happening right now people!*

*I voted last week

CBC and CTV are calling a liberal minority. Will be interesting to see who holds the balance of power.

Right now, doesn't look like Liberal + NDP will hit the 170 seat threshhold.

With more riding reported, the Liberals and NDP are juuuuust past the 170 seats needed.

Bernier lost his seat! Hahaha!

CTV has Liberals + NDP at 182 seats. Very comfortable/strong majority.

Vector wrote:

Bernier lost his seat! Hahaha!

That's the Alt-right dude, right?

Prederick wrote:
Vector wrote:

Bernier lost his seat! Hahaha!

That's the Alt-right dude, right?

Yep, leader of the alt-right People's Party which thankfully has failed to win a single seat thus far.

Faboo. F**k Faith Goldy and her cohort.

mudbunny wrote:

CTV has Liberals + NDP at 182 seats. Very comfortable/strong majority.

I’d like to see a coalition government happen someday but it won’t happen now. They didn’t do it the last time there was a conservative minority*, they won’t do it now that they have their own minority.

*I may be thinking about a provincial election in Ontario, but it doesn’t matter, still won’t happen.

Strewth wrote:
mudbunny wrote:

CTV has Liberals + NDP at 182 seats. Very comfortable/strong majority.

I’d like to see a coalition government happen someday but it won’t happen now. They didn’t do it the last time there was a conservative minority*, they won’t do it now that they have their own minority.

*I may be thinking about a provincial election in Ontario, but it doesn’t matter, still won’t happen.

I think there will be a loose coalition.

Bloc + NDP can be swings so it's not like the Liberals need to actually put anything in stone with a specific party. Bloc is actually fairly progressive on certain issues. It's not like they are a conservative French party.

It's a pretty big L for the Libs and obviously the Conservatives imo. Trudeau was found out and lost his majority. Conservatives keep dragging their feet on climate change and are suspect when it comes to social issues. Which essentially makes them impossible to carry a majority in Canada.

NDP will probably get painted with a big lose but until I see the final numbers they essentially probably just lost the Quebec vote from last election. Pretty much called it personally that last election the huge fake NDP vote in Quebec was just a protest vote. They went back heavy Bloc this time. The ultimate strategic voters.

Edit: looks like the Conservatives won the popular vote which is interesting. If the actual seat count wasn't such a huge gap he could of at least made a fake argument of winning.

I always wonder what such a stark and regionally delineated map means about the actual composition of Canada. Are we too big to actually be one country? Are we just three national toddler standing on each other’s shoulders wearing a Canadian trench coat?

Cons only won the majority popular vote due to the MASSIVE turnout for them in the prairies. Holding at ~70%+ in AB/SK/MB.

Yeah, my riding holds too many well-to-do folks that think that PCs tax promises will benefit them. Narrator: It won’t.

Wink_and_the_Gun wrote:

Yeah, my riding holds too many well-to-do folks that think that PCs tax promises will benefit them. Narrator: It won’t.

I live in the bible belt of BC. Cos got over 11,000 while Libs and NDP got under 3000 each.

Alberta seems convinced that building a pipeline will solve all the economic woes we are going through. As if the problems here are not related to the price of oil and our failure to diversify.

Valmorian wrote:

Alberta seems convinced that building a pipeline will solve all the economic woes we are going through. As if the problems here are not related to the price of oil and our failure to diversify.

I think we're at the point (already past it) where Canada would be best off if oil just continued a trend towards not being economically viable.

https://economicdashboard.alberta.ca...

We just straight up have a worse product located in a landlocked remote location. Not to mention no one wants someone else's pipeline going through their backyard. We tax gas for its negative externalities. If everyone around you thinks a pipeline is a negative you pay the cost to compensate them. If that cost makes your product even less viable. Might be time to get a better product to sell.

I don't wish economic hardship on anyone but if the things related to oil just continued to trend worse, Alberta long term would be better off.

I just hope something helps the damn economy in Alberta. It sucks here. I am so F**king tired of boom/bust cycles that have ruined so many things in my lifetime.

Aries wrote:

I just hope something helps the damn economy in Alberta. It sucks here. I am so F**king tired of boom/bust cycles that have ruined so many things in my lifetime.

If it's any consolation my current company is actively hiring in Calgary.

Between office space costs and cost of living for employees, especially ones that are willing to relocate, they have been able to grow that office.

Caveat being it's all software related engineering/product jobs. They currently have 9 positions open besides co-op/intern.

This obviously doesn't help people who don't fit the jobs available but the longer Alberta clings to oil it's going to continue to be a volatile economy.

Thanks, jowner. It's just frustrating around here.

Vector wrote:

Bernier lost his seat! Hahaha!

Good, but also really annoying that he got to be a part of the debates when no other fringe party with no won seats ever has been able to in the past, and this was completely based on the fact that he "could very well win" a seat in Etobicoke North with Doug Ford's widow running. She ended up getting 2.7% of the vote. A lot of press and attention given to a party that in the end nobody cared about.

kuddles wrote:
Vector wrote:

Bernier lost his seat! Hahaha!

Good, but also really annoying that he got to be a part of the debates when no other fringe party with no won seats ever has been able to in the past, and this was completely based on the fact that he "could very well win" a seat in Etobicoke North with Doug Ford's widow running. She ended up getting 2.7% of the vote. A lot of press and attention given to a party that in the end nobody cared about.

I’m sure lots of people wish it was Doug Ford’s widow, but it was actually Rob Ford’s.

The debates were an unwatchable mess either way, the formatting was terrible, time cut off seemed biased and people talking over each other made it incomprehensible at times.

Having Bernier there made total sense, it was a circus meant to grab sound bites it was barely a formal debate.

The French debate was pretty good.