Other Sports Catch-All


If the plan is to go from 2% market share (1-in-50 bets) to 20% (1-in-5), that's going to be TOUGH.

FanDuel and DraftKings have got to already be locking down the younger demo (I base this solely on their ad content which doesn't speak to me as an old) and ESPN The Brand skews much older (right?). I feel like ESPN is the mature brand that olds have on in airports and gyms but that younger demos don't really care about.

Stephen A doing WWE-style heel stuff.
Jettisoning Bomani.
NFL Live-style studio shows.
SVP's show.

All those things scream, to me, of old media and I don't know that younger demos consume sports media this way anymore?

I dunno. Maybe that brand is so strong everyone is going to immediately download the new ESPNBet app to make an in-game parlay on Qaaron passing for 2TDs and the defense giving up less than 15 while watching MNF at Buffalo Wild Wings.

Jon Rahm: Gambling distractions happen 'every single round'

ATLANTA -- Even though a PGA Tour spokesperson said the tour has not seen an increase in spectators attempting to distract golfers for betting purposes, Jon Rahm said Tuesday that players hear about gambling "every single round."

"That happens way more often than you guys may hear," Rahm told reporters Tuesday at a news conference ahead of this week's Tour Championship at East Lake Golf Club. "I mean, it's very, very present. In golf, spectators are very close, and even if they're not directly talking to you, they're close enough to where if they say to their buddy, 'I bet you 10 bucks he's going to miss it,' you hear it."

PGA Tour president Tyler Dennis confirmed Tuesday that a fan was ejected from the third round of last week's BMW Championship for allegedly yelling "Pull it!" while Max Homa was attempting a short putt on the 17th green at Olympia Fields Country Club outside Chicago. Homa told reporters that the fan had bet $3 on him to miss the putt. Homa made the 5-footer.

"I love that people can gamble on golf, but that is one thing I'm worried about," Homa said. "It's just always something that's on your mind. It's on us to stay focused or whatever, but it's just annoying when it happens. ... Fans are so great about being quiet when we play. I think they are awesome. When anybody ever talks, it's so unintentional. They don't know we're hitting. It just sucks when it's incredibly intentional."

PGA Tour commissioner Jay Monahan said the incident was "unfortunate."

God damn, RIP to Windham Rotunda aka Bray Wyatt. Gone at 36. That is just way, way, way too young.


Professional Fighters League sells minority stake, plans expansion into....

Try and guess how the sentence ends before you click the link.

TIP: It's not a surprise.

I guessed Russia.

Prederick wrote:

Professional Fighters League sells minority stake, plans expansion into....

Try and guess how the sentence ends before you click the link.

TIP: It's not a surprise.

I got it! Sportswashing!!!

Phil is not betting on the NFL this year because he's admitting he has a gambling addiction ($1bb wagered; $100mm in losses).

As much as I applaud him for normalizing that mental health is no joke, he did his Phil-iest to make himself the victim, saying he wished no one else had to deal with addiction so publicly.

From the guy who took Bonesaw money.

I have Bonesaw -220 versus The Human Spider. Like free money.


She fell doing the vault and still got Silver.

Biles' second vault was an excellent Cheng to finish with a combined score of 14.549. Andrade was nearly flawless to snatch the gold medal by 0.201 points. Yeo Seo-jeong of South Korea took the bronze with 14.416.

Andrade said she was disappointed to witness Biles fail in her quest for perfection.

"I'm happy for my result, but sad about the fall because we know how much athletes train to do this vault," Andrade said through an interpreter.

Asked whether she would try the Yurchenko double pike in competition, Andrade said it would be a "crazy" thing to do.

"I don't have the body for that," she said.

Biles, 26, became the first woman to do the Yurchenko double pike at the world championships during qualifying, and the vault is now named the Biles II because it was achieved in international competition. The American gymnast now has five skills named after her.

Imagine being so good, that your opponents are litearlly like "I wouldn't even try to do the thing she barely failed at."

An entire marathon. In 2 hours and 35 seconds.

That is an average pace of 4:35 for each mile. How far do you think you could go at that pace before you just died?

I think I'd make it almost an entire mile.

Probably belongs somewhere else, but I don't want to dig to necro a thread for it.

The Right Time with Bomani Jones is coming back today! (Monday Oct. 23)

As it turns out, Wave is spending some of that sweet Kelse podcast money*.

*Sponsored by Taylor Swift.

Hell yeah.

Olympia bodybuilding open weight class finals are tonight. Not going to pay $70 for an online stream but will watch YT recaps tomorrow/tonight!

Also, Arnold is going to make the Arnold Classic 100% free to stream next year. I think that's going to take the sport to new places.

Louisville Field Hockey won their first NCAA match on the road vs Iowa today, off a corner in double overtime, 2-1. Pretty exciting. Now they play overall #2 team Northwestern on Sunday.


I know I'm the only person here who cares about wrestling, but my God, AEW better figure some sh*t out because getting CM Punk, then losing CM Punk and him showing up almost immediately afterward at WWE is one hell of a kick in the dick.

LIV Golf grabs the current Masters champion from the PGA.

In a deal that could have a far-reaching impact on the future landscape of men's professional golf and inject even more uncertainty into an already-fractured sport, Masters champion Jon Rahm has agreed to leave the PGA Tour for the Saudi Arabian-financed LIV Golf League, sources confirmed to ESPN on Thursday.

LIV Golf is expected to announce Rahm's addition Thursday, barring a last-minute change of heart from the former world No. 1 player, the sources said.

The deal is believed to be longer than three years, is worth more than $300 million and will include an ownership stake for Rahm in a new LIV Golf team, according to sources. LIV Golf is recruiting additional PGA Tour players to fill out the roster of Rahm's team.

Rahm's decision comes at a time when the PGA Tour and Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund are attempting to hammer out the final details of a framework agreement that would combine their commercial interests into a new for-profit entity, PGA Tour Enterprises.

PGA Tour commissioner Jay Monahan and Yasir Al-Rumayyan, governor of the PIF, are scheduled to meet next week. The PIF has spent more than $3 billion funding the LIV Golf League the past two seasons. The framework agreement is set to expire Dec. 31; Monahan called the date a "firm deadline" last week.

The framework agreement gives Monahan authority to determine the future of LIV Golf, which has struggled to gain a foothold in the U.S. but has generated significant interest in Australia, Singapore, Spain and other countries. Sources told ESPN the future of LIV Golf and whether team golf has a place in the sport's future ecosystem have emerged as sticking points for the Saudis during negotiations.

It's unclear how Rahm's defection will impact the proposed alliance. LIV Golf's ability to poach a player of Rahm's caliber would seem to give the Saudis leverage in negotiations, as the PGA Tour is also entertaining offers from a handful of U.S.-based investors.

The June 6 framework agreement included a clause that prohibited both sides from attempting to poach each other's players, but it was removed after the U.S. Department of Justice's Antitrust Division raised concerns that it restricted competition.

It's really amazing, they just realized they can brute force their way in with money.

that said, some of the quotes of Rahm will make for interesting future interviews:

Still, Rahm's decision is a stunning about-face for a 22-time worldwide winner who is considered one of the fiercest competitors in the game. Before the 2022 U.S. Open at The Country Club in Brookline, Massachusetts, Rahm was asked about his interest in joining the upstart circuit.

"Yeah, money is great, but when [my wife] Kelly and I, this first thing happened, we started talking about it and we're like, 'Would our lifestyle change if we got $400 million?' No," Rahm said. "It would not change one bit. Truth be told, I could retire right now and I could live a very happy life and not play golf again. I've never really played the game of golf for monetary reasons. I play for the love of the game, and I want to play against the best in the world."

Rahm talked about his desire to play in the tournaments with history and tradition, including the majors and PGA Tour invitationals.

"I have always been interested in history and legacy, and right now the PGA Tour has that," Rahm said. "There's a meaning when you win the Memorial Championship. There's a meaning when you win Arnold Palmer's event at Bay Hill. There's a meaning when you win L.A., Torrey, some of these historic venues. That to me matters a lot. After winning this past U.S. Open, only me and Tiger [Woods] have won at Torrey Pines. Making putts on 18 -- that's a memory that I'm going to have forever that not many people can say."

Before the Ryder Cup in Italy earlier this year, after Rahm voiced his support for Garcia and other LIV Golf players being allowed to compete for the European team, he was asked again about his interest in LIV Golf by a Spanish-language podcast.

"Phil Mickelson respects my decision and I respect his decision," Rahm said. "He has told me that I have no reason to go to LIV. And he has told me that several times. I laugh when people rumor me with LIV. I've never liked the format."

Louisville Volleyball made the Elite 8 but fell tonight. Was hoping for back to back Final Fours. Maybe next year.

There's a 16-year-old winning the darts.

I love how, despite the fact that he's only 16, he already looks very much like a Darts Man. Body type, hair (or the future lack of it, I feel confident saying), everything. There is a very particular Darts Man aesthetic.

Oh wow. That pic. Is something.

Bless him, it's a delight. I know nothing about darts, beyond that this is a VERY popular event in the UK and They All Look Like That.

How dare you besmirch some of Britain's finest athletes.

I mean, just look at Andy Fordham here. A god.


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Why did they photoshop out the beer and cigarette from his off-hand?

Edit: I didn't know that Andy Fordham had died two years ago with cirrhosis. I was just commenting on darts players in general. I think my image of a darts player throwing in a tournament while holding a drink in the other hand is from a video of Jocky Wilson that I saw. Seriously, go look up some tournaments in the '80s on Youtube. It's crazy.

I mean, it's not like the Brits are unaware of this:

Apparently, after this sketch, whatever the professional darts organization in the UK decided to ban drinks on stage during matches.

The child did not, in fact, win.

Still an awesome, amazing story though.

WWE Raw comes to Netflix from 2025 in huge deal

WWE Raw - pro-wrestling's most popular weekly show - will only be available on Netflix from next year.

The programme has been shown on broadcast TV around the world for 31 years.

But bosses of TKO - the company formed when WWE merged with UFC - have announced that Raw will be exclusive to streaming from next January.

Viewers outside the US will also be able to watch all weekly WWE shows and live events on the service.

The company said that would include pay-per-view specials including WrestleMania, SummerSlam and Royal Rumble.

It said the deal would affect fans in the USA, Canada, UK and Latin America first, before being expanded to other countries later.

WWE Raw is usually broadcast live, has aired 1,600 episodes since it first launched and is a must-watch for fans looking to keep up with the latest wrestling storylines.

Bosses claim it brings in 17.5m viewers each week in the US, and that WWE boasts 1 billion followers across various social media platforms.

This is a pretty big, important thing, because I guarantee you, the MLB/NBA/NFL/CBS will all be looking at how this deal plays out and considering their positions.

Former ESPN head Jon Skipper said on LeBatard that he fully expects the Super Bowl to become a PPV event in the very near future, and frankly, I don't doubt it.

Athletic theater doesn't belong in a sports thread.

I guess it's the "Other Sports and Sports Entertainment Catch-All" thread.

Prederick wrote:

This is a pretty big, important thing, because I guarantee you, the MLB/NBA/NFL/CBS will all be looking at how this deal plays out and considering their positions.

The NFL is getting worse by piecemealing out their product to this-and-that streaming service. If they ever had the balls to just sell me the product direct in one complete whole, things might get interesting.

Looking forward to Discussing "Dancing with the Stars" here too.