Playstation 5 Catch-All

Evan E wrote:

Launch games are almost always pretty middling, occasionally with one or two standouts. While I bought a launch PS4, I still primarily played on my PS3 for about another year. I didn't buy a launch PS3, I waited until they announced the first revision, which removed full backwards compatibility, giving me the impetus to pick up a full-BC 1st gen model, and even then I didn't find anything outstanding for about a year after that.

If you're really underwhelmed by the announced launch titles (which I expect will have a few Sony exclusives we don't know about yet), I have good news for you - chances are supplies will be sufficiently constrained that it's likely you won't be able to get a PS5 until 2021 anyways. (I fully expect the launch day supply to almost completely sell out the day pre-orders become available.)

I'm aware that things will probably be pretty limited, but I'd planned to join the crushing throngs of fans attempting to pre-order.

That would no longer be a pressing concern if the above list is accurate.

I have a first gen PS4 base model, so with what we've heard so far about the projected backward compatibility, I will gladly take a launch-day PS5 even if it's just for the performance upgrade for my current game library - including PSVR.

Yeah, even with my above caveats I've set aside money for a PS5 pre-order as soon as they're available. I'm hoping to replace both my PS4 and my backwards-compatible PS3 (that latter still seems iffy given the architecture of the PS3), and I hope I'll be able to use my PSVR although I still haven't heard if the lack of a DS4-style big light on the DS5 controller will be a problem for controller positioning.

Also, having finally broken out my launch PSVR last night from a six-month hiatus to play The Room: VR (which is the most amazing escape room I've ever been in), I discovered the foam on the headset is finally starting to disintegrate. Sony, can I get a volume discount?

I'm probably more financially capable to get in on launch than ever before. Nevertheless, with uncertainty surrounding our economy and potential earnings opportunities, it may be too unwise (with my responsible cap on) to take the leap. I'm not actually that intrigued by what is on offer with the PS5 to date, anyway. It would've been more a signifier to say I can because I want, for the first time. Then again, if things with our economy bounce back better than expected, if employment remains the same, who knows.

I have been expecting to get it on launch (assuming there is no price gouge due to limited production. Definitively not paying more than the announced price). Never got a console at launch before, Switch was less than half a year later though. But yeah, if that is the launch titles I wont bother trying.

Shadout wrote:

I have been expecting to get it on launch (assuming there is no price gouge due to limited production. Definitively not paying more than the announced price). Never got a console at launch before, Switch was less than half a year later though. But yeah, if that is the launch titles I wont bother trying.

I love getting a new console at launch. There's just something fun about the excitement of hooking it up and checking out the new stuff... But part of that fun is there being something you actually WANT to check out. And the list does not really offer me much.

It would be an upgrade from my PS4 Pro, and it'd be nice to have some backwards compatibility (I don't think PS3 is going to be on the list though).

Is there a Playstation Studios title in the list up there? I didn't really examine beyond the cursory scan.

I can afford to buy it at launch but I just don’t see a single reason to

I've gotten three consoles on launch:

Xbox One - Might have only bought Lego Marvel for the first several months, which I played with my daughter. Definitely could have waited a bit, possibly until Destiny. First time I bought one at launch, but that excitement wore off the same day.

Nintendo Switch - Zelda was obviously amazing, so even though I didn't buy a second game until Mario Kart 8D, I'd say this one was totally worth it.

Xbox One X - Hard to rate, since this was simply a power upgrade. In that sense, it was the most seamless, and a semi-precursor to what this year's backwards compatible consoles will be like at launch.

If you're not committed to playing the latest at time of release (and as someone who never plays multiplayer, I'm much more in that camp), there's little downside and some possible upsides - as the manufacturer, developers, and communities iron out kinks, bugs, and hitches - to holding off on buying a new console.

As an observed rule, though, I'm generally not that smart.

Hey, I bought a beautiful new OLED tv last year partly to "be ready for new consoles" with hdmi 2.1 and all that tech stuff. One year later that TV can be bought for 1/3 the price, and I still dont have a new console...
Being smart is luckily not required

Every console I've bought has benefitted from waiting a year before getting one. Even if there are a few gems in the first year of a new platform, there are never so many that I haven't been able to catch up fairly quickly. And as a bonus, other people have sorted through all the janky first year ports and lackluster launch titles so that I don't have to!

I'm definitely in at launch if I can manage to snag a preorder. As someone fortunate enough to have a gaming PC, Xbox doesn't really offer anything new for me, so PS5 wins that bid by default.

There hasn't been a great console launch game since Wii Sports. I'm not expecting anything different from the PS5, but there will almost assuredly be several things I want to play within the first year of launch. There is no chance for a PS5 price drop within that span, so I see no reason to wait. If Sony implements some kind of Smart Delivery equivalent with performance boosts on PS4 titles, even better.

As for the Thursday reveal, I too would love to see some stranger, smaller, or not so serious games. Maybe a new Ape Escape or a non-VR take on Astrobot, or maybe something that trends toward the more bizarre in the vein of Tokyo Jungle or Puppeteer. I'd also love to see a new Ratchet and Clank.

That said, I am still very excited to see Horizon One Dawn. Fingers crossed they've got some kind of big gun like that to reveal.

Dyni wrote:

There hasn't been a great console launch game since Wii Sports.

Breath of the Wild would like to have a word. And yes, I know it also released on Wii U. I played that one! But the Wii U doesn't count, and everyone knows it.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a Rocket League 2 as launch title. Even if it ends up being multiplatform eventually, releasing first on PS5 would be a nice get for Sony.

I had planned to get a PS5 on day one, but my financial situation this year has changed so that's likely not happening. Possibly next year, we'll see.

beanman101283 wrote:

I wouldn't be surprised to see a Rocket League 2 as launch title. Even if it ends up being multiplatform eventually, releasing first on PS5 would be a nice get for Sony.

Epic doesn't seem to be all that interested in doing platform exclusives. Their PC storefront, yes, but being broadly multiplatform has been at the core of their business for awhile now. (Epic Games acquired Psyonix last year.)

I forgot that Epic acquired Psyonix.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
Dyni wrote:

There hasn't been a great console launch game since Wii Sports.

Breath of the Wild would like to have a word. And yes, I know it also released on Wii U. I played that one! But the Wii U doesn't count, and everyone knows it.

It does! Breath of the Wild was the Wii U's swan song. I will hear nothing to the contrary.

A launch PS5 intrigues me just because Sony is promising much faster loading screens. I am tired of them on the current generation. If enough of the games I already own are playable on PS5, and if they really do load almost instantly, then there it is. Those can be my launch lineup.

Has Sony made any promises about backward compatible games getting improvements to load times, graphics, or anything else? I know they're promising that next gen games won't have loading screens (just like this gen wasn't supposed to), but I hadn't heard anything about the new hardware significantly improving older games. That would be a pleasant surprise.

The event has been pushed back due to the current ongoing events.

I don't care much about keeping up with the hype train. I bought the Switch on launch day, but other than that the last launch day system I bought was the N64. I did skip the PS4 though, so I am a little tempted to get the PS5 to play a bunch of cheap PS4 games I missed out on. But I still prefer to wait until the hype dies down, so there's no way I'm picking up a PS5 on launch day. The earliest would be sometime in 2022.

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Has Sony made any promises about backward compatible games getting improvements to load times, graphics, or anything else? I know they're promising that next gen games won't have loading screens (just like this gen wasn't supposed to), but I hadn't heard anything about the new hardware significantly improving older games. That would be a pleasant surprise.

From the way I saw it, the load times reductions are driven by improvements to the SSD architecture. I think it's highly unlikely that "retro" games won't see the same improvements, but I suppose there's a driver/software piece that may require a separate set of instructions for the backward compatibility.

Darkhaund wrote:

The event has been pushed back due to the current ongoing events.

Yup. Sony Delays Playstation 5 Showcase

ClockworkHouse wrote:

Has Sony made any promises about backward compatible games getting improvements to load times, graphics, or anything else? I know they're promising that next gen games won't have loading screens (just like this gen wasn't supposed to), but I hadn't heard anything about the new hardware significantly improving older games. That would be a pleasant surprise.

The only thing I can find is here:

Sony wrote:

We’re expecting backward compatible titles will run at a boosted frequency on PS5 so that they can benefit from higher or more stable frame rates and potentially higher resolutions. We’re currently evaluating games on a title-by-title basis to spot any issues that need adjustment from the original software developers.

2020 really has been delayed to 2021 :/

A bit presumptuous of Sony to act like they would in any way make these more important voices be heard less. More like you dont want your announcement getting drowned out.

Sony wrote:

We’re expecting backward compatible titles will run at a boosted frequency on PS5 so that they can benefit from higher or more stable frame rates and potentially higher resolutions.

Their PR about this is such a mess. So not all titles are BC titles?

From the same blog post:

Sony wrote:

We believe that the overwhelming majority of the 4,000+ PS4 titles will be playable on PS5.

Shadout wrote:

A bit presumptuous of Sony to act like they would in any way make these more important voices be heard less. More like you dont want your announcement getting drowned out.

More likely, they had game footage or a reveal that would be really tacky right now. They're likely trying to avoid becoming an ugly headline.

beanman101283 wrote:

From the same blog post:

Sony wrote:

We believe that the overwhelming majority of the 4,000+ PS4 titles will be playable on PS5.

I really wish they were more clear about that compatibility. Things like this are encouraging but also just uncertain enough to make me wonder what's not going to be playable (or, just as importantly, what's not going to be playable well).

Scheduling a major product reveal/launch on the anniversary of the Tiananmen Square Massacre is also never a great idea.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
Dyni wrote:

There hasn't been a great console launch game since Wii Sports.

Breath of the Wild would like to have a word. And yes, I know it also released on Wii U. I played that one! But the Wii U doesn't count, and everyone knows it.

...doesn't count. *heart breaks in two*

Since I only have a PS4 slim, not pro, I might be interested in PS5 at launch, depending how the backwards compatibility works.