Edit: One is Kevin Durant.
I thought you said Nets players.
In light of Marcus Smart's positive test I like Shea Serrano's suggestion that whichever team has a player get a positive test last should be declared NBA Champion.
Started a thread to see if we can get some folks jonesing for sports to maybe play in an online league or tourney is a sport you like.
If you turn on ESPN2 right now you can watch 2 NBA players play video games.
Hope it goes better for them than playing Madden did for Tyreek Hill and Tyrann Mathieu yesterday. 
Tyrann Mathieu rage quit vs. Tyreek Hill in Madden and called his teammate 'disrespectful'
He was right. It was pretty funny seeing Chiefs nation freak out last, that Madden was going to tear the team apart. 
Who else is watching H-O-R-S-E on ESPN? Video's a little jumpy.
I haven’t been able to watch any of the off-season stuff but horse is getting obliterated on Twitter. Even by some nba players.
They got some nice houses, though.
Maybe it's the shelter-in-place effect making anything new seem like the best thing ever, but damn The Last Dance after two episodes is good.
No, it’s not that. It’s really good. As someone whose favorite player of all time is Scottie Pippen the first 30 minutes of episode 2 was basically catnip.
Despairing that the first two episodes aren't on ESPN+.
Yeah they were pretty good. I know they are laying groundwork, but I was surprised how much was about history and not 'just' a documentary about the last season.
DS - I think Scottie is way underrated in the general sports consciousness. He was basically peak-Kawhi in the 90s, but just happened to play with a top 3 all time player.
Amazing 2 hours last night. My wife even enjoyed it. Texting with friends and following along on Twitter was great too.
I lived most of this but there was so much going on I wasn't aware of as a teenage basketball fan.
I did get all the trivia questions right on the breaks though. It was weird that they only gave you like 3 seconds before showing the answer. But still, I was on it.
I just watched Ep 1 last night and I'm impressed.
I also semi recall a lot of this, but as Lakers fan who grew up with Magic and Kareem my interest in the NBA diminished as Jordan ascended.
I have been enjoying going back and watching some old playoff games. ESPN has some on demand like the final Finals games of the 2000s Lakers vs Celtics, Heat vs Spurs. Just nice to have on and see some of the players again.
Horace Grant with the line of the documentary.
Also Jordan’s hatred of the Pistons to this day is kind of amusing.
(Pippen) was basically peak-Kawhi in the 90s, but just happened to play with a top 3 all time player.
What?
LeapingGnome wrote:(Pippen) was basically peak-Kawhi in the 90s, but just happened to play with a top 3 all time player.
What?
I actually think it’s a discussion and at least Kareem gives him a run for his money. Top 3 isn’t a crazy thing to say.
Horace Grant with the line of the documentary.
Also Jordan’s hatred of the Pistons to this day is kind of amusing.
I still hate them too. Isaiah is still an asshole. His line tonight about how he would have shook hands if he'd known all the consequences for not doing it. Yeah like not being on Dream Team or getting a gold medal because you are an asshole. Maybe just don't be a little Female Doggo in the first place.
They just showed Jordan doing a TV interview on the court after losing game 7 and saying they were the better team. Yeah you know he didn't really mean it because if Scottie hadn't had that migraine...but he still said it because that's how a professional behaves.
f*ck the Pistons.
Yeah they were pretty good. I know they are laying groundwork, but I was surprised how much was about history and not 'just' a documentary about the last season.
DS - I think Scottie is way underrated in the general sports consciousness. He was basically peak-Kawhi in the 90s, but just happened to play with a top 3 all time player.
He’s way underrated if you didn’t see him play at his peak. He definitely passed they eye test, though. I sometimes wonder what advanced metrics say.
For fun.
DSGamer wrote:Horace Grant with the line of the documentary.
Also Jordan’s hatred of the Pistons to this day is kind of amusing.
I still hate them too. Isaiah is still an asshole. His line tonight about how he would have shook hands if he'd known all the consequences for not doing it. Yeah like not being on Dream Team or getting a gold medal because you are an asshole. Maybe just don't be a little Female Doggo in the first place.
They just showed Jordan doing a TV interview on the court after losing game 7 and saying they were the better team. Yeah you know he didn't really mean it because if Scottie hadn't had that migraine...but he still said it because that's how a professional behaves.
f*ck the Pistons.
I hate them too. Them plus the Knicks were the worst of that NBA era and why I don’t hold that era in as high of regard as I do the modern NBA.
Also, not got nothing, but I think Pippen’s game would translate so well into the modern NBA. Probably better than most all-time players. I’m fairly biased, though, as I already admitted.
For a moment during episode 4 I felt like I was watching an infomercial for the triangle offense and could almost hear Knicks fans howling in rage.
LeapingGnome wrote:(Pippen) was basically peak-Kawhi in the 90s, but just happened to play with a top 3 all time player.
What?
You don't think Jordan is in the top 3? Who do you have?
I've always believed there's a very legitimate argument for any of Russell, Wilt, Magic, Jordan, Kareem, and Lebron. Pretty much just order them any way you want. Some will argue until their face goes blue over why "this person should be #1" or whatever but there's a lot of personal preference on what the individual puts value on.
Top_Shelf can speak for himself, but I assumed he was saying that Jordan was obviously number #1.
I agree, overall, that that argument over who the best is is largely pointless and it's almost impossible / unfair to compare eras.
I actually don't think Jordan would be as dominant in the modern era. His modern comp would be closer to Dwyane Wade's career, IMO. Who knows, though. Jordan was so competitive, maybe he trains himself to be a knockdown 3 point shooter.
Kareem definitely wouldn't be as dominant right now. He wouldn't be hitting those slow, lumbering sky hooks at 39 with the modern NBA defenders able to drop down and double team him.
Center and power forward has largely been devalued in the recent modern era. Almost every power forward also needs to play small forward or center. Successful centers tend to either be crazy defensive wizards and/or brilliant passers. Hell, shooting guards barely exist now. Lots of teams are running two point guards. The Raptors start and finish with two undersized point guards, for example. What dominates in the NBA shifts constantly.
The MJ vs LeBron stuff is so fun because it's so ridiculously silly. Definition of the stuff talk radio loves as it's just an endless machine.
It's a great opportunity for 'old people' (me) to act like a cranky dinosaur with young people I work with.
The doc is amazing. Going back and re-watching the games Bill Simmons and five thirty eight mention (not Jordan specific) are great also.
So many people are experts but... Who actually remembers watching games from 90-95 for example. In detail that is. I have vague memories but worth the refresher if you have time.
Apparently in other countries the Last Dance is distributed by Netflix and is not censored. I downloaded episodes 3 & 4 yesterday and they seem to be from Belgium with a Netflix intro and there is a lot more swearing in the interviews and game footage than the ESPN version.
Apparently in other countries the Last Dance is distributed by Netflix and is not censored. I downloaded episodes 3 & 4 yesterday and they seem to be from Belgium with a Netflix intro and there is a lot more swearing in the interviews and game footage than the ESPN version.
Interesting. Haven't watched 3/4 yet here in Canada but I'll pay attention.
I watched episode 1 and 2 on ESPN and I don't remember a lot of beeps. In episodes 3 and 4 there were probably at least 20 f-bombs, I am not sure if they beeped them out on ESPN or just censored it some other way. It was kind of nice because it showed the more natural way these guys talk.
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