Help me build my PC 2020 Catch All

EvilDead wrote:
Fedaykin98 wrote:

How do you differentiate between permanently sleeping monitors and computers that froze while sleeping?

I logged in via remote desktop. Next step I tried unplugging the HDMI cable and plugging it back in and that "woke" the monitor.

Which end did you unplug? I've had issues with both my home and work computers sometimes failing to wake up in the morning.

Going to put this here as I hate starting new topics for simple questions...

For at least the last 8 years I've used a trusty Wired genuine Xbox 360 controller on my PC. Unfortunately I think its time has come... you have to rejigger the cable sometimes... the left stick is sticky... problem is I love it. I'm so worried about switching to another controller. I do have a Xbox One controller which I have plugged in via micro USB cable and my wife usually uses that if we play anything together.

Is that the best bet now for a controller? I've used a non-1st party controller once ever and it broke within a month and I vowed never to get one again. I hate dropping $50 on an Xbone controller but not sure if I have a choice anymore.

My only requirement is it has to be wired and heavy (er). The Xbone controller I use actually has 2 dead batteries in it because I need the weight. I'm going to use my wifes controller for a bit to see if I can get used to it.. but does anyone have any other thoughts on a good PC controller?

The Xbox Elite is kinda perfect (even the first gen one). If you can swing the price, it's just way too nice. The first generation one was annoying because you had to buy the wireless adapter AND a battery pack in addition to charge via USB. You could easily run it wired, though. If I didn't have that, I'd just go with a regular Bluetooth Xbox One controller or a PS4 controller. They're both just fine. Personally, I'd probably stick with a Xbox One controller on PC just because games more typically go with that naming scheme.

EvilDead wrote:

The outputs are all different so both cables are different but known working cables borrowed from work. They were used with a similar setup on an RX580 which has the same outputs. Standard HDMI and 3 displayports (non mini)

What is DisplayLink?

I just ran into this making me think there might be issues with HDMI on these cards.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/com...

whoops I meant displayport

Definitely worth trying a different set of cables just to be sure.

Yeah, the Xbox One Elite Controllers are well worth the price. My wife has been using one for all her gaming for something like 3 years now. Given that she used to have to replace her 360 controllers on an annual basis, this has actually resulted in us saving money. If you got 8 years out of a single 360 controller then I imagine you'll be able to leave an Elite to someone in your will.

I've been trying out the Xbox one controller, and there is a real upwards drift. Nothing horrible, but its enough where certain games it makes menus go crazy. Its a Day One controller so could be that its old.. generally speaking are Xbone controllers pretty good on a PC?

I tried calibration, and that doesn't seem to fix it... which is disappointing.

Carlbear95 wrote:

I've been trying out the Xbox one controller, and there is a real upwards drift. Nothing horrible, but its enough where certain games it makes menus go crazy. Its a Day One controller so could be that its old.. generally speaking are Xbone controllers pretty good on a PC?

I tried calibration, and that doesn't seem to fix it... which is disappointing.

Try expanding the "dead zone" in the middle of the stick. I've found that lots of games will register the slightest stick movement as a command to flip to the next menu item, and tweaking that setting usually fixes it. Whenever I'm configuring JoyToKey for my wife that's one of the bits I have to fiddle with the most.

I'm using a DualShock 4, which I absolutely love. With the program DS4Win, it's exposed an an XInput device, so it looks like any other 360 controller. It's extremely precise and very comfortable. It kicks the sh*t out of the 360 wireless controller I just replaced it with, a couple weeks ago. If you have a quality Bluetooth adapter, you can use it wirelessly if you want, but I use mine wired.

However, it is quite light. It is not at all a heavy controller. It's very solid and feels like quality, but doesn't have a lot of heft to it.

(edit to add: I mean, it's so accurate and easy to control that it feels like you could do surgery with these thumbsticks. Note, however, that I have no actual surgical experience.)

So...

I have a i5-3570, a 4GB 980 (non ti) and 16 GB RAM.

What upgrade would you suggest in the $300/400EUR price range?

Currently want to play Division 2 online/coop, Doom Eternal and Assassins Creed Odyssey. All of them seem to have decent fps at medium to high settings but freeze for about a second from time to time which I guess comes from loading textures into the GPU RAM? So would a GPU with 6-8 GB be a good idea to fix this?

EvilDead wrote:

The outputs are all different so both cables are different but known working cables borrowed from work. They were used with a similar setup on an RX580 which has the same outputs. Standard HDMI and 3 displayports (non mini)

What is DisplayLink?

I just ran into this making me think there might be issues with HDMI on these cards.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/com...

I tried a different HDMI port on my monitor. Same thing. I'm ordering a DP > DP 1.4 cable but that won't be here for 10 days because of the delay Amazon is adding to all my shipments. Time to play the waiting game and keeping my fingers crossed.

So this AMDrewards program:

Nevermind: Figured it out.

Edit 2: Maybe not.

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Just adding to the chorus here: Xbox One Elite controller.

The price is wild, but it's worth it. I love it so much that I've even bought an adaptor so I can use it on the (somewhat rare) occasions when I play things on my PS4.

Aside from being the best controller ever made (it fixes all the small layout and feel issues of the regular Xbox One controller), it also nicely meets your stated criteria of working in a wired format and having a nice, hefty weight to it. Also, if you've never had the chance to play with a controller that offers back paddles, they will change your life.

I put an Elite controller on my Amazon wish list years ago on a lark. My wife actually bought it. I thought it was quite the extravagance, but man, it has turned out to be a great buy. It is amazingly good quality.

Unlike zero, I've never gotten around to using the back paddles, though I would still like to. There's never a good time to train myself when I'd rather just dive into a game!

I adore my Elite (1st gen) controller. Easily the best controller I've ever used. Unfortunately the rubber on one of the hand grips is starting to peel off - not enough to warrant a replacement/upgrade to 2nd gen, but enough to start thinking about repair options (glue, etc).

I use one back paddle, on the left side, which I have bound to L3 (pushing the left stick in). This way, for all of the games that use L3 to enable running, I can simply squeeze the paddle rather than click the stick - which would otherwise potentially cause me to slightly change the direction I was running. Also good for Dark Souls 2/3 for jumping; much cleaner to just tap the paddle and not risk skewing my run direction.

What upgrade would you suggest in the $300/400EUR price range?

You will see a nice boost from a 5600XT @ $269 or a 5700 @ $329
If you want Nvidia, you are looking at the 1660 super for $229, the 2060 for $299 or the 2060 super but @ $399

Ballpark estimates:
The 1660 Super is a 15% bump from the 980
The 5600XT beats the 1660 super by about 15%
the 2060 is 7-8% better than a 5600xt
The 5700 edges out the 2060 by a similar margin
The 2060 super is %10 faster than the 5700

edit: the 5700 XT's are going for $360 and are comparable to a 2060 super; probably the best deal at this point...

Vargen wrote:
Carlbear95 wrote:

I've been trying out the Xbox one controller, and there is a real upwards drift. Nothing horrible, but its enough where certain games it makes menus go crazy. Its a Day One controller so could be that its old.. generally speaking are Xbone controllers pretty good on a PC?

I tried calibration, and that doesn't seem to fix it... which is disappointing.

Try expanding the "dead zone" in the middle of the stick. I've found that lots of games will register the slightest stick movement as a command to flip to the next menu item, and tweaking that setting usually fixes it. Whenever I'm configuring JoyToKey for my wife that's one of the bits I have to fiddle with the most.

At least the native xbox controller app and standard win10 controller config doesn't have a dead zone adjustment. Certain games do, but if it doesn't, then its drift city. I just picked up Super Mega Baseball 3 and its definitely fidly. Nothing that can't be managed (its not that often you just leave the stick neutral) but really noticeable in menus.

Of course in these times where gaming is king and manufacturing is slow, its pretty hard to find xbox controllers.

PowerA Fusion Pro Wired Controller for Xbox One

It is a wired elite style xbox one controller.

A little cheaper around 80 USD.

merphle wrote:

I adore my Elite (1st gen) controller. Easily the best controller I've ever used. Unfortunately the rubber on one of the hand grips is starting to peel off - not enough to warrant a replacement/upgrade to 2nd gen, but enough to start thinking about repair options (glue, etc).

Same. I would not get a 1st gen Elite controller, and I'd wait to see on the 2nd edition. The rubber backing has a half-life.

Super glue weights to a normal Xbox One controller. Or if you want to try out back paddles get a PowerA, though the durability isn't great there either, but it is cheap.

JohnKillo wrote:

PowerA Fusion Pro Wired Controller for Xbox One

It is a wired elite style xbox one controller.

A little cheaper around 80 USD.

Whoa, I didn't know there was a better one of these. How's the quality? What thread is this? How did Friday?

Shalalm Baskur, Danjo, Shalalm Bazkur...

Danjo Olivaw wrote:
merphle wrote:

I adore my Elite (1st gen) controller. Easily the best controller I've ever used. Unfortunately the rubber on one of the hand grips is starting to peel off - not enough to warrant a replacement/upgrade to 2nd gen, but enough to start thinking about repair options (glue, etc).

Same. I would not get a 1st gen Elite controller, and I'd wait to see on the 2nd edition. The rubber backing has a half-life.

Super glue weights to a normal Xbox One controller. Or if you want to try out back paddles get a PowerA, though the durability isn't great there either, but it is cheap.

Weirdly, I've never had trouble with the rubber, but I have had the shoulder bumpers sort of break on two units now, but only long after I've had problems with standard controllers in the past.

Given the thousands of hours of use I got out each one of the things and the abuse I put them through, I've been happy to replace them both times. (My third one was bought just before the 2nd gens were available, so I can't speak for those.)

EDIT to add:

That said, I think when Danjo and I have compared notes about this in the past, the thought occurred to me that ambient humidity might be a big factor there. I live in California where humidity is basically a foreign concept unless rain is falling from the sky, so I wouldn't be terribly surprised to learn that maybe the glue doesn't hold up as well in places that are moister.

I'm pretty sure Carlbear also lives in California though, so that might not be an issue for him.

The rubber backing has some strange chemical reaction with my glands. Basically it made my hands stink with a very unpleasant smell! I thought I was crazy then I saw some other amazon reviews saying the same thing. So maybe there is some weird interaction where human oils make it break down over time. And it might only happen to some people because of genetics.

Anyways I ended up putting a silicone sleeve over it. Makes the controller slightly bigger but otherwise it's fine.

ZeroKFE wrote:

I live in California where humidity is basically a foreign concept unless rain is falling from the sky

SoCal, maybe. SF and Northern California can be pretty humid. There's even a full-on rain forest or two up near Oregon.

There is humidity living in the coastal areas as well here in CA.
Even SoCal has areas like Santa Barbara, Santa Monica, Oceanside, Long Beach, Ventura, etc.

Carlbear95 wrote:
Vargen wrote:
Carlbear95 wrote:

I've been trying out the Xbox one controller, and there is a real upwards drift. Nothing horrible, but its enough where certain games it makes menus go crazy. Its a Day One controller so could be that its old.. generally speaking are Xbone controllers pretty good on a PC?

I tried calibration, and that doesn't seem to fix it... which is disappointing.

Try expanding the "dead zone" in the middle of the stick. I've found that lots of games will register the slightest stick movement as a command to flip to the next menu item, and tweaking that setting usually fixes it. Whenever I'm configuring JoyToKey for my wife that's one of the bits I have to fiddle with the most.

At least the native xbox controller app and standard win10 controller config doesn't have a dead zone adjustment. Certain games do, but if it doesn't, then its drift city. I just picked up Super Mega Baseball 3 and its definitely fidly. Nothing that can't be managed (its not that often you just leave the stick neutral) but really noticeable in menus.

Of course in these times where gaming is king and manufacturing is slow, its pretty hard to find xbox controllers.

Time to go back to the way we did things in the 90s and see if you can adjust it in the games .ini file

I lived in the North Bay until I graduated high school and I've lived in the Sacramento region my whole adult life. Trust me folks, we don't have humidity here the way they do in many other parts of country (world). Granted, where Danjo has lived the last few years is also on the lower end of the scale, but there is simply no comparison of our mild and dry climate to where he lived before that.

Foggy oceanside communities are not the same thing at all.

Wow! This NVMe drive is fast! Currently using Samsung Magician to benchmark all my drives. It's like 7 times as fast as the SATA SSD I have my OS installed on. 3562 MB/s Sequential Read and 2504 MB/s Sequential Write. I don't know if I'll ever have a game that can take advantage of it, but it's kinda neat.

tuffalobuffalo wrote:

Wow! This NVMe drive is fast! Currently using Samsung Magician to benchmark all my drives. It's like 7 times as fast as the SATA SSD I have my OS installed on. 3562 MB/s Sequential Read and 2504 MB/s Sequential Write. I don't know if I'll ever have a game that can take advantage of it, but it's kinda neat.

I have three computers with NVMe boot drives (my desktop/file server, my personal laptop, and my work laptop) and they all three make me hate using any computer (like my work desktop) that is still booting off of a spinning drive

Rykin wrote:

All three make me hate using any computer (like my work desktop) that is still booting off of a spinning drive ;)

Oh the humanity! I hadn't really thought about it, but I've been lucky to not have the OS on a spinning drive at home or work for at least a decade I think. May only be like 6 years for work. I think my first SSD was a 60 GB OCZ Vertex I. I should frame that thing.

My order for a new 4TB SSD for my games has been indefinitely delayed, so I cancelled it. Really kind of rethinking whether I need it at all.