Help me build my PC 2020 Catch All

If anyone doesn't have a good mouse, or wants to make the jump to a wireless mouse for cheap, the Logitech G305 is on sale for $30 (down from $50) and it is great. I use it for my wireless couch-gaming setup.

Latency is plenty low for even competitive games. Uses one AA battery, which lasts forever.

An update on my "replace my monitor with a TV project". I ended up getting an LG 55" C1 OLED. Very good picture. It was an "opportunity purchase" when the wife and I went to CostCo last week. One of my goals in going to the bigger screen was to avoid the need for reading glasses while on the computer. I'm happy to report that has proven to be the case

At 3840 x 2160 it's now too high resolution for my current PC. While my 2080ti is doing great, my i7-6800K really can't cut it. On that news, my R10 still hasn't entered production. It was supposed to be shipped today.

Is it me or is this Cyber Monday pretty useless?
It is a bit understandable with COVID/supply/price gouging issues.
But as far as anything hardware, there is a whole lotta nothing?

Just for giggles, before my new rig comes in, I captured this from HWiNFO64 on my MSI laptop with an RTX970M after a match of BTB in Halo Infinite:

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This appears to not be thermally optimal.

Pretty sure the turbo button dropped the frequency to 7 or 8 Mhz regardless of the actual frequency of the CPU, or at least that was the original use. Whatever the early PC standard Mhz that some programs timed themselves to. We had a copy of Printmaster Plus that synced the printing routine to the standard PC Mhz so it we didn't turn off the turbo on the 286/16 the printing would be all misaligned.

Mine was 12, then 16, to 8. I rarely had to turn it down.

I also bought a math co-processor for like $60 that fit into an open chip slot and really sped things up. Big deal on that one was inserting it without bending any legs.

The world of computers was way cooler back then. I remember the Rabbit fast loader for our C64. I had no idea how to use it and only years later after we had long gotten rid of the C64 did I understand what it was.

Of course, our C64 was used and didn't come with practically any documentation.

One of my true joys back in the day was writing assembler for the Apple ][. When Apple closed their source code, it was a bleak, bleak day. No more peeks and pokes to animate funny things on the screen, without paying a license fee...

Dell just did the same to me as they did to Kazar. Updated my order on the day of delivery with a new delivery date. This time Dec 9th.

If I don't see it in production by the 7th, some calls will have to be made.

Sorry you guys are having delays with Dell. I’m thankfully having the opposite with Origin. They sent me an email that they wouldn’t be shipping on my original ship date… they shipped my machine out a few days early! Assuming UPS holds up their end of things, I should have it before the end of the week. Looking forward to it!

5000brians wrote:

This appears to not be thermally optimal.

Looking at reviews and forum posts about that particular laptop, thermal throttling seems like it was commonly observed during stress tests, but the laptop generally avoided throttling in games.

Of course, that was with 2014 games. 2021 games look a lot more like stress tests to a 2014 laptop.

When I placed my order with NZXT last Friday it said the order would ship in three weeks, with 3-6 day shipping. It shipped the next day and is scheduled to arrive this Friday. I was pleasantly surprised.

Moggy wrote:

Dell just did the same to me as they did to Kazar. Updated my order on the day of delivery with a new delivery date. This time Dec 9th.

If I don't see it in production by the 7th, some calls will have to be made.

As someone who deals with Dell on an enterprise level they have been struggling on that end as well. Right now we are looking at waiting at least 45 days for just about any systems we order from them. They were telling us 15 days over the summer.

I don't mind the delay, it is to be expected. It was that they waited until the day of delivery to tell me it is delayed. I am sure they knew a week before or at least a few days.

5000brians wrote:

When I placed my order with NZXT last Friday it said the order would ship in three weeks, with 3-6 day shipping. It shipped the next day and is scheduled to arrive this Friday. I was pleasantly surprised.

Is it because you ordered 5000 of them and they love you?

The 5000 thing is gonna take a while for us to get out of our systems.

garion333 wrote:

The 5000 thing is gonna take a while for us to get out of our systems.

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At least we know his favorite game
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*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

The 5000 thing is gonna take a while for us to get out of our systems.

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Ha ha! I feel so flattered!

The whole point when I came up with that name years ago (like many), was that it made me laugh with a funny image of 5000 of me. Its great that you all think its funny too!

Sadly, there were *already* 5000brians on XBL (or maybe I couldn't start with a number?), so there's only fivebrians there.

garion333 wrote:
5000brians wrote:

When I placed my order with NZXT last Friday it said the order would ship in three weeks, with 3-6 day shipping. It shipped the next day and is scheduled to arrive this Friday. I was pleasantly surprised.

Is it because you ordered 5000 of them and they love you?

The 5000 thing is gonna take a while for us to get out of our systems.

You're just passing along the "love" you received from all of us when you joined.

Surprise email this morning. My R10 has shipped! Due tomorrow or Saturday, I presume.

Awesome! Enjoy the card.

*Legion* wrote:

The only part of that build that gives me pause is the Kraken M22 AIO, a 120mm AIO.

The 5800X runs warm, and as an owner of one that's cooled by a 280mm AIO (and occasionally looks at 420mm AIOs as a potential upgrade), I question how well a 120mm AIO is up to the task.

Definitely take stock of CPU temperatures in CPU-heavy workloads.

So good news?

My NZXT arrived a day sooner than estimated.

Also: it appears from the included documents that it has a Kraken X series cooler, rather than the M22. I don’t see a part number anywhere so it’s a little hard to confirm.

5000brians wrote:

Also: it appears from the included documents that it has a Kraken X series cooler, rather than the M22. I don’t see a part number anywhere so it’s a little hard to confirm.

How big is the radiator? Does it have one fan on it, or two?

Two fans. And the radiator seems quite big to me. Maybe 12" long? Is that what the 140 mm, 280 mm, etc numbers are? Its almost the full height of the case.

Yes they add the fans up and that's the size of the cooler, so If you have three 120mm fans on an AIO it's a 360mm cooler, if it has two 140mm fans it's a 280 etc.

A 280mm AIO would be one that has two 140mm fans on it.

If the radiator has two fans and is as long as you say, then it's definitely either a 240mm or 280mm AIO. And if you're seeing references to 140mm and 280mm written somewhere, then it's probably the latter.

A 280mm AIO would obviously be significantly better for cooling that CPU than the expected 120mm AIO would be.

So my buddy's EVGA 3080 TI preorder finally came through. His current system is several years older than my 2700X build so he wants to go all in on an AMD 5950X build to go with it.

Looks like the Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard is the go to board.
32 GB Corsair 3600 memory, 4 sticks or just 2?
Any recommendations for Case and Power Supplies?
He is also wanting a couple of 2GB NVME drives, brand/model?

So, I ordered a Seasonic Prime 850 power supply a while back. I finally got around to installing it last night and it ... didn't work. I tested it with the little tester jumper thingy that came with it and the fan turned on. In the computer itself though, nothing happened. Unnerving to say the least. Redid everything and plugged the old supply back in and the computer was fine.

Anyway, I returned it and ordered a Corsair HX1000.

The old supply was a 10 year old Corsair HX750.

Redhwk wrote:

So my buddy's EVGA 3080 TI preorder finally came through. His current system is several years older than my 2700X build so he wants to go all in on an AMD 5950X build to go with it.

Looks like the Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard is the go to board.
32 GB Corsair 3600 memory, 4 sticks or just 2?
Any recommendations for Case and Power Supplies?
He is also wanting a couple of 2GB NVME drives, brand/model?

I'd say save some cash and go with 2 sticks of 32GB RAM. Or, 4 sticks of 16GB-- whichever is faster + cheaper. 4x32GB is not necessary AT ALL for most use cases (unless, like me, you're doing a TON of 3D graphics work and physics/cloth simulations).

My current build is using the Lian Li Lancool II Mesh (all fans replaced with Noctua Chromax models for quieter airflow) and it has been amazing so far. I've got 2 120MM intake fans at the bottom of the case, 2 140MM fans for top exhaust, 2 140MM intake fans on the radiator at the front, and a single 120MM exhaust on the back, and the computer doesn't hit 48 decibels at full load. It is somehow quieter as a mesh airflow case, than my old (but gorgeous) NZXT S340 Elite glass box. I highly recommend the Lancool II Mesh, especially if you can also spring for some quality quiet fans.

As far as power supplies go, I'd recommend pulling something from the top of this list that's at least 1000W to accommodate the higher power draw of the 5950X in combo with the 3080Ti. Also your friend should consider avoiding the Seasonic Prime PSU's under 1000W as long as he uses that EVGA graphics card. According to that list (as well as my recent personal experience):

Seasonic PRIME based units experience shutdowns with RTX3080/3090 (and possibly RX6900 XT) GPUs, especially ones with unlocked power limit like FE, EVGA FTW3 and ASUS Strix. It is recommended, if going with such units, to overprovision wattage, 1kW for RTX3080 and 1.2kW for RTX3090, or power-limit the GPU, or performing a ‘dirty’ fix of disconnecting a pin of 12V V-sense wire from PSU-side connector of 24-pin motherboard cable (JonnyGURU). Lower wattage Prime Gold & Platinum SKUs are actually based on Focus platform and assumed to be not affected.

sh*t some of us only have 32gb of ram total.