Help me build my PC 2020 Catch All

clickyclick... and ordered. Thanks! Working in my wife's new PC, even though it's annoying that I have to, had convinced me that the art of case design has come an extremely long way from the plain box I've been using for so long.

zeroKFE wrote:

As for the power button on the top, that probably won't be an issue. While it's pretty close to flat with the top of the case, it is slightly recessed, and takes intentional force to depress. I set things on top of it all the time with no issues. Of course, if your cat is bound and determined to press it they probably could, but I doubt it will be an issue.

Yes they will and yes it is. I thought I solved it by disabling the power button in Windows. That was after one cat put my PC in hibernate in the middle of a Rocket League match.

But that doesn't stop the cat from turning the desktop on when you are using your work laptop during the day. And then you have to use USB/HDMI switch to get control, see the PC, and shut it down, and then rearrange all your work windows when you switch back.

My newest solution is placing a hard ceramic coaster over the top of the power button. As mentioned it is recessed so something flat will rest over top of it and keep it from being accidentally pressed. I tried this with a soft coaster but Hobbes managed to smash through that. So hard coaster it is for now. Maybe I will turn the button back on in Windows now and live dangerously.

Hah, well, I stand corrected then.

Guess I should be grateful my cats aren't that dextrous.

Cute, but assholes. Rascal and Hobbes (top).

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Is that a lighthouse I see?

merphle wrote:

Is that a lighthouse I see?

Gotta be Cat Quest 2, right?

PoderOmega wrote:

After being on the waiting list for 6 or 7 months on EVGA's site I finally got an email for a 3060. Not my first choice but realistically 90% of my PC gaming is streamed to a 1080p 6.7 inch phone (via Moonlight) mounted on a Dualshock4 controller that I do almost all my PS4 gaming on. So a 3060 is still a decent bump from a 980GTX Ti for a 1080p gamer at least.

However my current build is almost 9 years old with an i7 3770k which actually does pretty well with the 3060. But I'd like to get a smaller case and revisit a hobby from before my first kid was born 8 years ago.

So this is what I've speced out. Let me know what you think. I'm good on SSD drives for now and may get an M.2 later.

LIAN LI O11D MINI-X Black With SP750 (750W )
https://www.newegg.com/p/2AM-000Z-00...

i7-11700K 

MSI Z590-A PRO LGA 1200 Intel Z590 
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E1681314...

Crucial Ballistix 3600 MHz DDR4 DRAM
https://www.newegg.com/ballistix-32g...

be quiet! Dark Rock Slim, CPU Cooler, 180W TDP, Silent Wings 3 120mm PWM Fan, 
https://www.newegg.com/be-quiet-dark...

Why such a hefty processor? I see you like your i7's. Are you doing video editing or something else intensive with them?

Why such a hefty processor? I see you like your i7's.

My i7 3770k lasted me a lonnng time (9 years) and that was a splurge for me at the time. I'm hoping for another long run and don't want to cheap out. I'd say it was for ripping and encoding all my blurays but that's already done. I'd like to get a couple video cards generations out of it too. I'm open to recommendations.

PoderOmega wrote:
Why such a hefty processor? I see you like your i7's.

My i7 3770k lasted me a lonnng time (9 years) and that was a splurge for me at the time. I'm hoping for another long run and don't want to cheap out. I'd say it was for ripping and encoding all my blurays but that's already done. I'd like to get a couple video cards generations out of it too. I'm open to recommendations.

If you're up for it, go for it. Just seemed an excessive cost is all.

Microcenter has the i7 11700k and the i9 10850k both on sale for $300. I'm getting the 10850k.

I know absolutely nothing about i9's off the top of my head but I definitely prefer the 11th Gen architecture to Intel's 10th gen due to the faster RAM performance and generally better performance overall (11th i7 beats out 10th gen i9). I went Intel this gen almost entirely because they finally got their sh*t together for the first time in almost a decade.

Regardless, they're both fast processors.

garion333 wrote:

Been laptop shopping for my eldest's Christmas present and was pretty underwhelmed by budget laptop specs. CPUs seem ok, but they're coming with 8 gb of RAM, 256 gb of space and Nvidia 1650's. Some have Ti, most don't.

Well, Lenovo has a coupon where I got this for $1100:

AMD® Ryzen™ 7 5800H Processor (3.20 GHz, up to 4.40 GHz Max Boost, 8 Cores, 16 Threads, 16 MB Cache)
16 GB DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8 GB)
1 TB PCIe SSD
17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS, anti-glare with Dolby Vision™, 300 nits, 144Hz
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX™ 3070 8GB

That 3070 is the crazy part. I might keep this and give him my current desktop, lol.

If you don't mind my asking, where'd you find that? Just on Lenovo's site, or through a newsletter of theirs, or somewhere else? In the market for first-year university student's laptop, but this could be a gaming machine, too.

muraii wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Been laptop shopping for my eldest's Christmas present and was pretty underwhelmed by budget laptop specs. CPUs seem ok, but they're coming with 8 gb of RAM, 256 gb of space and Nvidia 1650's. Some have Ti, most don't.

Well, Lenovo has a coupon where I got this for $1100:

AMD® Ryzen™ 7 5800H Processor (3.20 GHz, up to 4.40 GHz Max Boost, 8 Cores, 16 Threads, 16 MB Cache)
16 GB DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8 GB)
1 TB PCIe SSD
17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS, anti-glare with Dolby Vision™, 300 nits, 144Hz
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX™ 3070 8GB

That 3070 is the crazy part. I might keep this and give him my current desktop, lol.

If you don't mind my asking, where'd you find that? Just on Lenovo's site, or through a newsletter of theirs, or somewhere else? In the market for first-year university student's laptop, but this could be a gaming machine, too.

Lenovo had a sale during the back to school a couple weekends ago. There was a coupon you used on their site where any upgrade was free, basically. So, you could take their basic build a bundle machines and add in a bunch of stuff.

I found out about it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLaptops/

re cats pushing the power button on a Phantek case

Stele wrote:

Yes they will and yes it is. I thought I solved it by disabling the power button in Windows. That was after one cat put my PC in hibernate in the middle of a Rocket League match.

Data point: My cats can too. I went into my office today to find the machine had been turned on sometime last night. Looks like I'll be disabling the button in windows

I'm mightily tempted to bite the bullet after being on the EVGA waitlist for over 8 months. I found an unopened MSI 3060Ti for 600EUR on a Belgian ebay competitor, but am unsure whether to believe it.

The seller has been active for over 8 years, has 13 reviews and all positive, and the users giving the reviews are also not just created. He mostly sells PC components, a PS5 and musical equipment. So signs are positive for now, but should I look out for any other red flags maybe?

For now I requested to see the invoice he claims to have, if he can show me that it would put me more at ease too.

(the 3060Ti is the maximum my current PSU can cope with, and plenty enough for my gaming habits btw)

edit: he sent the invoice, it's from a French retailer called CDiscount, who totally ripped the interface from Amazon legit site though

What protections does the ebay competitor give if it turns out bunk?

garion333 wrote:

What protections does the ebay competitor give if it turns out bunk?

None, but it's Belgium so I can drive there in about an hour. So at least I don't have to worry about not being sent anything after paying.

EDIT: I am a complete idiot. My search term was for a 3060Ti, but this was a 3060 vanilla. So 600EUR is not that attractive anymore.

EDIT 2: just bought it on a reputable website, new, for 713EUR. I found some other options, but on websites where reviews are either super positive or "sold to me without you having it in stock, been waiting for 2 months now". That's the best I can find, after 8 months, tomorrow I will finally play Control with Ray Tracing

I did end up getting an i7 11700k instead of a the i9 10850k. $300 from Microcenter is still $100 cheaper than Newegg and Amazon at the moment.

I have the 3060 I got a few weeks and am waiting for all the other parts to arrive from newegg over the next couple days.

Anybody got a good solution for using a mouse+kb on the couch?

charlemagne wrote:

Anybody got a good solution for using a mouse+kb on the couch?

Wireless mouse and keyboard and one of these.

garion333 wrote:
muraii wrote:
garion333 wrote:

Been laptop shopping for my eldest's Christmas present and was pretty underwhelmed by budget laptop specs. CPUs seem ok, but they're coming with 8 gb of RAM, 256 gb of space and Nvidia 1650's. Some have Ti, most don't.

Well, Lenovo has a coupon where I got this for $1100:

AMD® Ryzen™ 7 5800H Processor (3.20 GHz, up to 4.40 GHz Max Boost, 8 Cores, 16 Threads, 16 MB Cache)
16 GB DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8 GB)
1 TB PCIe SSD
17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS, anti-glare with Dolby Vision™, 300 nits, 144Hz
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX™ 3070 8GB

That 3070 is the crazy part. I might keep this and give him my current desktop, lol.

If you don't mind my asking, where'd you find that? Just on Lenovo's site, or through a newsletter of theirs, or somewhere else? In the market for first-year university student's laptop, but this could be a gaming machine, too.

Lenovo had a sale during the back to school a couple weekends ago. There was a coupon you used on their site where any upgrade was free, basically. So, you could take their basic build a bundle machines and add in a bunch of stuff.

I found out about it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLaptops/

Thanks. We ended up going for this Acer Aspire 5 which seems like a really solid machine. Bought it from Microcenter after Costco's listing was removed, I guess meaning they aren't gonna carry it anymore.

I made a little Google Sheet summarizing some of the offerings, in case that's helpful for anyone.

Yup, Acer Aspire was one of the systems I was looking at before that glitch coupon happened.

charlemagne wrote:

Anybody got a good solution for using a mouse+kb on the couch?

I've got some sort of Logitech wireless keyboard + touchpad unit that works pretty darn well for entering text and navigating an OS. I haven't tried to actually play a game with it; when I'm somewhere I need that keyboard I tend to play games with a controller of some sort. Unfortunately I got the keyboard secondhand and it doesn't appear to have a model number on it. A quick search of Logitech's site... I don't see one that looks like it so it must be discontinued. They do have a few other keyboard + touchpad offerings though; those are probably worth looking into.

I have a Logitech 400kr that is compact and the touchpad built it. Probably 7 or 8 years old. However the fatal flaw is the default behavior of the function keys are the media keys like volume and other stuff. There is no hardware function lock and you have to use their drivers to lock it. But over Steam Link and my CAT5 to HDMI devices the drivers only detect as a generic keyboard. No problem for Razer to detect my Razer mouse over the CAT5 thing. But maybe it is a windows thing. But without the function lock literally tried taping down the function shift key with mixed results.

So I did my new build last weekend. Went pretty well. Spent a decent amount of time trying to make the cable management look as "clean" as possible since I've been seeing all the build pics the kids these days are doing.

I use wireless mouse and keyboard on the couch, I place the keyboard on my lap then place my mousepad on a book beside me, choose a book of the right thickness for the best comfort height, and it works really well!

https://www.newegg.com/promotions/ca...

I think this is kind of a cool idea.. its a custom PSU that works with just that case to create a cleaner cabling and install process. If I was in the market for a new case and PSU I think i'd give this a go.. Seasonic is a pretty good PSU brand and while I don't think of them for cases this one looks decent enough in terms of the competition at that size/price point.

FYI, looks like this combo deal is about $200 off and includes both that case and the PSU: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Combo...

TheGameguru wrote:

https://www.newegg.com/promotions/ca...

I think this is kind of a cool idea.. its a custom PSU that works with just that case to create a cleaner cabling and install process. If I was in the market for a new case and PSU I think i'd give this a go.. Seasonic is a pretty good PSU brand and while I don't think of them for cases this one looks decent enough in terms of the competition at that size/price point.

That does look neat. I like the idea of a fully-modular PSU, but those cables are each still thick af and a giant bundle of mess at the bottom of the case and routed behind the motherboard.

My dream would be for the PSU and case manufacturers to agree upon a standardized electrical connection between the PSU and case, such that the PSU literally powers the case, and the case routes that power through individual cables embedded/hidden within the chassis itself, directly to where they would be needed on a typical ATX, GPU, etc. This "Seasonic Syncro Connect Module" sounds like it's getting pretty close to that; it's still a separate piece of kit to mount inside the case, but at least it's just one wire from the PSU to it, and the module runs the height of the case.

I would be way more interested in that case if it was a mesh front.