Help me build my PC 2020 Catch All

pizzaddict wrote:
staygold wrote:

I recently got a 3080ti in a combo with a Ryzen 7 5800X.

Question is, do I swap my current Ryzen 9 3900X for the Ryzen 7 5800X?

According to CPU Benchmark, Yes, but it's not a huge upgrade depending on what you are doing.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...

Yeah, I'd swap it out and sell the 3900X for almost what you paid for it new.

Only question is the motherboard. Will you get the full benefit of the 5800 on your current board?

Looks like 3080 shuffle day at Newegg. Lots of brands and options, but $1k and up. Think I need to stay in the <$500 3060 land.

Newegg back on the combo BS for today's shuffle.

So I think my motherboard is dying in my old rig. Which means I need new motherboard, CPU, and RAM. I'll be reusing GPU (3060), power supply (850w), audio card (PCI-e 1x), case (mid ATX), some SATA drives, and hopefully my noctua CPU cooler if it's compatible.

Any suggestions? What's the best value currently?

Edit- Unless anyone has a spare LGA 1150 MB laying around

Renji wrote:

So I think my motherboard is dying in my old rig. Which means I need new motherboard, CPU, and RAM. I'll be reusing GPU (3060), power supply (850w), audio card (PCI-e 1x), case (mid ATX), some SATA drives, and hopefully my noctua CPU cooler if it's compatible.

Any suggestions? What's the best value currently?

Edit- Unless anyone has a spare LGA 1150 MB laying around ;)

Budget?

I'd like to keep it under a grand for sure (preferably less). Not interested in paying the luxury/top-of-the-line tax. Gaming will be the hardest thing I'll throw at it, with no plans of going over 1440p this generation. Will hopefully be using it for the next 5+ years. Honestly I was mostly still happy with my 7 year old PC, but next gen games would probably have changed my mind on that anyways. I'm guessing if I go too all out, the 3060 would end up being a bottle neck regardless.

Well today's newegg shuffle has 2 3060 bundles with just a PSU. Not a horrible thing to have a spare of lying around, or possibly easy to resell. Threw my name in, let's see if I get lucky.

Stele wrote:

Well today's newegg shuffle has 2 3060 bundles with just a PSU. Not a horrible thing to have a spare of lying around, or possibly easy to resell. Threw my name in, let's see if I get lucky.

Holy sh*t I got selected.

ASUS 3060 here next Friday.

Anybody interested in ASUS 650W power supply?

We are looking for a low to mid range gaming laptop for my wife. Are laptop's having the same price inflation we're seeing with desktop components or are they staying fairly stable? Just trying to figure out if it's better to wait a bit or not. Also, since this thread moves so fast I can't keep up, any suggestions in the $1k to $1.5k range?

Look a page or so ago. There is a G14 gaming laptop on sale for $1399 that seems like a winner.

fangblackbone wrote:

Look a page or so ago. There is a G14 gaming laptop on sale for $1399 that seems like a winner.

Up to 1449 now but I've watched a bunch of videos on it and everyone is raving about it.

Stele wrote:
Stele wrote:

Well today's newegg shuffle has 2 3060 bundles with just a PSU. Not a horrible thing to have a spare of lying around, or possibly easy to resell. Threw my name in, let's see if I get lucky.

Holy sh*t I got selected.

ASUS 3060 here next Friday.

Anybody interested in ASUS 650W power supply?

Congrats!

garion333 wrote:
Renji wrote:

So I think my motherboard is dying in my old rig. Which means I need new motherboard, CPU, and RAM. I'll be reusing GPU (3060), power supply (850w), audio card (PCI-e 1x), case (mid ATX), some SATA drives, and hopefully my noctua CPU cooler if it's compatible.

Any suggestions? What's the best value currently?

Edit- Unless anyone has a spare LGA 1150 MB laying around ;)

Budget?

I'm in a similar spot for my boy's machine. He's currently running an i5-3470 which has been a real trooper but he's ready for an upgrade. I threw together a PCPP list based on a sense of budget value and compatibility. My mostly uneducated opinion is that on-board Wifi is a kind of hardware lock-in that's not worth paying for, so this board doesn't have it. The i5-10400 is half the price of the i5-11400 and will be a huge improvement I think.

Wouldn't mind opinions if there's a better fit for a modest gaming machine. It'll mostly be put to use on stuff like Fortnite BR, maybe Just Cause, an outside chance he'd play Ghost Recon: Wildlands with me. Nothing barnstorming.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-10400 2.9 GHz 6-Core Processor ($164.99 @ Adorama)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME B560M-A Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($110.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: *Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($93.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $369.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-07-26 14:29 EDT-0400

This Framework laptop looks pretty great! Unfortunately their site is getting absolutely crushed right now. I assume because of the LTT video.

I was just pricing out a machine for a friend and doing the pros cons of the 10th gen vs 11th gen Intel and found that many MB won't enable the primary m.2 slot unless you have an 11th gen. The difference in price was around $50.

kazar wrote:

I was just pricing out a machine for a friend and doing the pros cons of the 10th gen vs 11th gen Intel and found that many MB won't enable the primary m.2 slot unless you have an 11th gen. The difference in price was around $50.

Yeah I saw that too. The price difference between the i5-10400 and i5-11400 is pretty substantial, but maybe there are other 11th-generation CPUs that are a better value proposition.

Time passes.

Oh! Just looked and the reason the 11400 is showing as being so expensive is that the more reasonably priced vendors are out of stock. Okay, glad I held off, and thanks for prompting another look.

Gaald wrote:

This Framework laptop looks pretty great! Unfortunately their site is getting absolutely crushed right now. I assume because of the LTT video.

The little modules are interesting, but I wish they had made them a bit bigger so you could do stuff like 2 USB A ports in one module or a USB-A and HDMI in the same module or probably even more useful a USB-A and USB-C. I also don't like how they are your only option for IO and power except for a headphone jack. I think it should have two hardwired USB-C ports (one on each side) and then the expansion slots. They also need to do an ethernet module.

As someone who has modded laptops and all-in-ones in the past to run them as servers I do like that the motherboard is designed so that you can run it outside of the chassis. Of course Raspberry Pis and NUCs have completely killed the need for most people to repurpose old hardware for stuff like that.

I think it would be cool to see their motherboard become the basis for a standard form factor and then you could buy a case and keyboard and screen and all the other parts to make DIY laptops as customizable as desktops are.

muraii wrote:
kazar wrote:

I was just pricing out a machine for a friend and doing the pros cons of the 10th gen vs 11th gen Intel and found that many MB won't enable the primary m.2 slot unless you have an 11th gen. The difference in price was around $50.

Yeah I saw that too. The price difference between the i5-10400 and i5-11400 is pretty substantial, but maybe there are other 11th-generation CPUs that are a better value proposition.

Time passes.

Oh! Just looked and the reason the 11400 is showing as being so expensive is that the more reasonably priced vendors are out of stock. Okay, glad I held off, and thanks for prompting another look.

The 11400 became the CPU to buy once Ryzen everything sold out.

Like anything tech-related right now, the price that was once wonderful inflates due to supply/demand to the point that yup, just buy the last gen since you can actually get your hands on it.

Been laptop shopping for my eldest's Christmas present and was pretty underwhelmed by budget laptop specs. CPUs seem ok, but they're coming with 8 gb of RAM, 256 gb of space and Nvidia 1650's. Some have Ti, most don't.

Well, Lenovo has a coupon where I got this for $1100:

AMD® Ryzen™ 7 5800H Processor (3.20 GHz, up to 4.40 GHz Max Boost, 8 Cores, 16 Threads, 16 MB Cache)
16 GB DDR4 3200MHz (2 x 8 GB)
1 TB PCIe SSD
17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) IPS, anti-glare with Dolby Vision™, 300 nits, 144Hz
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX™ 3070 8GB

That 3070 is the crazy part. I might keep this and give him my current desktop, lol.

Yeah that looks great

Dang, that is pretty good of a deal.

Looking at Passmark scores, the 5800H is pretty damn impressive for a 45W CPU. It beats a desktop Ryzen 3600X in single-core, and is closer to a 5800X than you would expect from the big power draw difference.

I wasn't trying to get a Lenovo, but ...

My fear is the screen is gonna blow, despite being an upgraded part.

Maybe look at the QHD screens instead? Especially with that card...

I believe the QHD was in the $1400+ tier and I wasn't willing to do that.

garion333 wrote:

I believe the QHD was in the $1400+ tier and I wasn't willing to do that.

“I don’t like the kid THAT much.”

Be warned too that laptop 3070 is not the same as a desktop 3070.

fangblackbone wrote:

Be warned too that laptop 3070 is not the same as a desktop 3070.

True. Notebookcheck’s benchmarks has it about on par with a desktop 2070 Super. So between a desktop 3060 and a 3060ti in the current generation.

Still great for $1100 laptop. Definitely more than enough power especially for [email protected]

Yes, the 1080p screen is definitely the weak link here, but nothing to stop Garion hooking it up to an external monitor.

*Legion* wrote:
garion333 wrote:

I believe the QHD was in the $1400+ tier and I wasn't willing to do that.

“I don’t like the kid THAT much.”

This is already 40% more than I was going to spend, but it saves me from having to get another lappie in two years.

fangblackbone wrote:

Be warned too that laptop 3070 is not the same as a desktop 3070.

That I did know, but appreciate the heads up. It's much the same but with a lower tdp due to being in a laptop. It's still a massive increase over the 1650's I was considering.