Stadia-specific catch all

Top_Shelf wrote:

Is there a Stadia-specific catch all? Should there be?

Yes there should be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google...

https://support.google.com/stadia/an...

My current question was "I wonder if you will ever be able to play Steam purchased games on Stadia?" After all it is broadly speaking just remoting into someone else's computer and playing on their hardware but it does have Valve's special overlay software.

However when I read the faq I posted above I saw this nugget -

Harrison stated they are also looking into offering publisher subscriptions and other models in the future;[6] for example, Ubisoft announced its own Uplay Plus subscription service will be available to Stadia users.

So I am betting if Stadia becomes popular enough Valve will figure out how to get it working on the system. I mean from Valve's perspective they get X dollars from a customer whether they play on Google's servers or on their systems. In fact they would probably rather have people buying games from them and playing on Stadia instead of buying them from Google.

Interesting, didn't realize that Google had Jade Raymond heading up the charge over at Stadia.

farley3k wrote:

My current question was "I wonder if you will ever be able to play Steam purchased games on Stadia?" After all it is broadly speaking just remoting into someone else's computer and playing on their hardware but it does have Valve's special overlay software.

However when I read the faq I posted above I saw this nugget -

Harrison stated they are also looking into offering publisher subscriptions and other models in the future;[6] for example, Ubisoft announced its own Uplay Plus subscription service will be available to Stadia users.

So I am betting if Stadia becomes popular enough Valve will figure out how to get it working on the system. I mean from Valve's perspective they get X dollars from a customer whether they play on Google's servers or on their systems. In fact they would probably rather have people buying games from them and playing on Stadia instead of buying them from Google.

That would involve I would guess a different set of licenses.. since AFAIK Valve doesn't actually own the games they resell for the most part.. the license is held by the dev/publisher. Unless each sale of a game transfers the license from the Dev/Publisher to Valve? Honestly not really familiar on the specifics of the agreements.

I've got the Founder's edition ordered.

I'm hoping we get more details on what's included in the subscription beyond Destiny 2. Maybe at Games on or PAX.

farley3k wrote:

My current question was "I wonder if you will ever be able to play Steam purchased games on Stadia?" After all it is broadly speaking just remoting into someone else's computer and playing on their hardware but it does have Valve's special overlay software.

However when I read the faq I posted above I saw this nugget -

Harrison stated they are also looking into offering publisher subscriptions and other models in the future;[6] for example, Ubisoft announced its own Uplay Plus subscription service will be available to Stadia users.

So I am betting if Stadia becomes popular enough Valve will figure out how to get it working on the system. I mean from Valve's perspective they get X dollars from a customer whether they play on Google's servers or on their systems. In fact they would probably rather have people buying games from them and playing on Stadia instead of buying them from Google.

This is what Geforce Now does (did? I don't even know if the service still exists). I used it to play Windows-only Steam games on my Mac a few years ago. Seemed to work really well back then, but I haven't used it since my Mac died.

I think it would actually be Google that would not want it or at leastI could see that logic

They won't sell as many games. If people can continue to buy at Steam and they have a lot of sales then Google misses that revenue.

On the other hand it would bring in many, many more users if they allowed it because people wouldn't feel they have to give up their library of titles.

So which is worth more? People buying games from Google or subscribers who already use Steam? I am sure an army of accountants have worked it out somewhere.

billt721 wrote:
farley3k wrote:

My current question was "I wonder if you will ever be able to play Steam purchased games on Stadia?" After all it is broadly speaking just remoting into someone else's computer and playing on their hardware but it does have Valve's special overlay software.

However when I read the faq I posted above I saw this nugget -

Harrison stated they are also looking into offering publisher subscriptions and other models in the future;[6] for example, Ubisoft announced its own Uplay Plus subscription service will be available to Stadia users.

So I am betting if Stadia becomes popular enough Valve will figure out how to get it working on the system. I mean from Valve's perspective they get X dollars from a customer whether they play on Google's servers or on their systems. In fact they would probably rather have people buying games from them and playing on Stadia instead of buying them from Google.

This is what Geforce Now does (did? I don't even know if the service still exists). I used it to play Windows-only Steam games on my Mac a few years ago. Seemed to work really well back then, but I haven't used it since my Mac died.

Nvidia tried a streaming service.. they had a handful of games you could play via their streaming tech but for the most part they allowed you to stream games you had installed at home.. sure you could poke holes in your firewall and do VPN's and access your home titles via remote but the experience was lackluster for the most part.

Stadia is different as you aren't relying on your home ISP and Hardware to handle the streaming but rather Google's infrastructure.

As well I doubt Valve's licensing structure would allow them to suddenly allow you to stream games from a Valve owned Data Center to anywhere you are and certainly not resell them or license for re-use to Google.. no Publisher/Dev would allow that without getting some cut. You can stream games inside your home via a Steam Link and again probably find ways to access that through the internet from outside your home but I would guess that won't ever be the same experience as Stadia.

Nvidia's Geforce Now is still up. You can log into your Steam account and add and play games within what appears to be a Steam-only VM. You can even add games they don't support to your steam vm and stream them.

In general it works great. I stream a bunch of AAA games to my laptop in 1080p and play them with an xbox controller. It doesn't handle games with mods very well, though, since you can't open config files or anything.

I think it's still in an invite-only Beta, though.

Google Stadia reassures users, “You own the right to play it”

Seemingly unprompted, Google recently updated its Stadia FAQ four months out from its public release, and the new details include an assurance to gamers that despite its licensing and streaming nature, games purchased through the platform will remain playable while Stadia is up and running.
“Once you purchase the game, you own the right to play it. In the future, it is possible that some games may no longer be available for new purchases, but existing players will still be able to play the game,” the Stadia FAQ page reads. “Outside of unforeseen circumstances, Stadia will aim to keep any previously purchased title available for gameplay.”

While Stadia is running. With Google’s history of killing services, that’s no reassurance.