2019/20 Soccer Thread

Sorbicol wrote:
Roke wrote:

Any decent manager (better than Bruce) is going to look at Newcastle, see they have Ashley over a barrel, and demand control of transfers or balk. I'm dreading the potential Tim Sherwood link.

Surely the problem is you don’t have Ashley over a barrel? He will not let his managers have that level of control. It’s partially why Benitez left. You go into that job knowing thats the case.

I think it's a "give me control or your options are you can find somebody worse who's going to get you relegated" situation.

I think Rafa stayed as long as he did because he was able to live close to his family and he was quite sentimental about the community. There not being an obvious job elsewhere to step-up into probably helped as well.

Roke wrote:

I think it's a "give me control or your options are you can find somebody worse who's going to get you relegated" situation.

It would, if it wasn't Ashley. Ashley doesn't care - so long as the club turns him a profit, he's happy. And while he's "willing" to sell, it will be at a price he deems it to be worth, not the buyer. All about the money for him now.

Looks like Griezmann to Barca is official.

Prederick wrote:

Looks like Griezmann to Barca is official.

I put my name in the hat for a signed jersey! This time I will WIN!

I wonder where that leaves Neymar. I don't see where he could go, except maybe Juventus? Who could even afford him now? Real Madrid doesn't want him, right? Something in the Premier League?

EDIT: Media reporting that Barcelona is the most likely destination, but Barcelona is only offering players to PSG. Humm.

I certainly wouldn't pay $250m in player/cash value for him at this point. I wonder if a deal between PSG and Barca might be much harder to swing than most people imagine.

Sorbicol wrote:

It would, if it wasn't Ashley. Ashley doesn't care - so long as the club turns him a profit, he's happy. And while he's "willing" to sell, it will be at a price he deems it to be worth, not the buyer. All about the money for him now.

And now Mike Ashley is balking at paying compensation to Wednesday and Steve Bruce and his assistants, which is the most Ashley thing ever.

Prederick wrote:

Looks like Griezmann to Barca is official.

But Atlético is still demanding 80 million more.

Steve Bruce has resigned as Sheffield Wednesday manager.

You really have to feel for Newcastle fans to be honest.

L'équipe reporting Ashley's taken Newcastle off the market again.

*sigh*

Saw a man in Times Square today wearing a Sc*nthorpe kit.

I have nothing else to add, other than that that man both bought a Sc*nthorpe kit and decided to wear in public in Manhattan, and that I recognized it.

Anyway, now that we are in the absolute doldrums of the preseason, here's something fun...

Guardian Writers Pick Their Favorite Kits

Off the top of my head, I'd go Arsenal 04-05. Or Barcelona 06-07.

Steve Bruce confirmed at Newcastle.

Sorbicol wrote:

Steve Bruce confirmed at Newcastle.

Apparently an accomplished mystery novelist!

Newcastle also sent to spend £35m on Joelinton, a striker for Hoffenheim. I won't pretend to really know anything about him but looking up his numbers on Whoscored his shot rate is terrifyingly low for that much money.

West Ham drop 45m on a striker? Never heard of him but good on them for trying to be competitive.

Trippier to Ateltico is kinda random. I'm sure it makes perfect football nerd sense but even if this is the perfect sell high Spurs still need to have depth.

In depressing Arsenal news not qualifying for the CL is really setting in as they can't sign anyone. The plan (mine) was to give Emery 3 windows to role over the squad before really judging. Winter was a bust and so far this summer is looking mighty bad.

With the state of Manchester United, Chelsea, and Arsenal's there's probably a bigger-than-normal chance for a non-Big6 team to climb into the top-4 this season. Don't think it's a big chance mind you, but outside the top-3 of the Big6 looks to me a bit like Leiceter's title season.

Roke wrote:

With the state of Manchester United, Chelsea, and Arsenal's there's probably a bigger-than-normal chance for a non-Big6 team to climb into the top-4 this season. Don't think it's a big chance mind you, but outside the top-3 of the Big6 looks to me a bit like Leiceter's title season.

I reckon Wolves could seriously make top 4 this season. None of their players have been poached (yet) and they are having a pretty good pre-season. I don’t much of their squad have been involved in summer tournaments either.

Man. Bolton. It's going poorly.

Beyond the general doubt over the future of the club, and the fact that they will start next season in League One with a 12-point deduction from day one, perhaps the worst part of the administration crisis has been the very real effect on the players and coaches, who have not been paid for work dating back to April—four months of unpaid labor.
Sorbicol wrote:
Roke wrote:

With the state of Manchester United, Chelsea, and Arsenal's there's probably a bigger-than-normal chance for a non-Big6 team to climb into the top-4 this season. Don't think it's a big chance mind you, but outside the top-3 of the Big6 looks to me a bit like Leiceter's title season.

I reckon Wolves could seriously make top 4 this season. None of their players have been poached (yet) and they are having a pretty good pre-season. I don’t much of their squad have been involved in summer tournaments either.

It's certainly shaping up to be an interesting question, isn't it? I'd think Liverpool and City will battle it out for 1 and 2, Tottenham will land solidly in third, and then who knows. I'd think between Man U, Chelsea, and Arsenal, one of the three will sort things out well enough to grab fourth place. I'd probably give Arsenal the nod to fourth at the moment because of Emery.

However, I wouldn't be surprised to see one or two of those teams drop out of the top six. If the Wolves, Everton, and/or Leceister City could get things going and stay consistent, I could see one of them finishing above whichever of the traditional top 6 falls the farthest.

I'd think Man U are especially vulnerable. I don't feel like they've changed enough of their squad and the way the season ended strikes me as a bad omen for Solskjær going forward.