2019/20 Soccer Thread

The ongoing Neymar drama really is absurd.

Also, Bolton's squad is so thin, they're postponing a game for the welfare of their youth players. They are going to be a VERY interesting option in FIFA 20.

Oh, and the Puskas Award nominees are out.

I haven't gotten to take a good look at them, but I am already biased towards Messi's insane chip at Betis.

Way to go, Wolves!

Right now the "second tier" of the EPL that I mentioned a few weeks ago has a pretty good record against some of the flailing "big six" teams.

How long until the EPL table starts to look the way one expects?

The day the Puskas Awards come out, Ruben Neves is like "why aren't I on the list?"

EDIT: Upon viewing the nominees...

1 - Messi
2 - Matheus Cunha
3 - Zlatan

Is that the golazo from Zlatan's LA Galaxy debut?

I think if someone has to ask which one of a person's goals were nominated, they should probably win.

Plus I love Zlatan.

Mr Bismarck wrote:

I think if someone has to ask which one of a person's goals were nominated, they should probably win.

Plus I love Zlatan.

That's a good line, but I imagine there are a number of people with more than one amazing goal, right?

Plus I only mentioned one Zlatan goal, and have no knowledge of one of equal or greater excellence.

From this year, that is - the dude is a human highlight reel and a joy to Youtube!

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Meanwhile, at Bury...

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Sanchez saga continues.

Yearly salary is 18m pounds. Inter only want to pay 4.5m United already paid the July and August wages.That total salary is also 20% lower because United are not in the CL. What a disaster.

Neymar saga also ongoing.

Papers are still saying Spurs will sell. Will it be surplus like Wanyama or Eriksen. If Neymar goes to Real that might kill the €€€ required to make the Eriksen to Real deal happen.

Stay or go they are both bad situations. 60m now though it's probably the better option.

Someone tell Vincent that being a player-manager stopped being a realistic possibility about 25 years ago.

You're gonna have to choose one, dude. And player might not be it.

(Worse, you might not cut it as a manager either.)

jowner wrote:

Papers are still saying Spurs will sell. Will it be surplus like Wanyama or Eriksen.

I'm reading Wanyama to Club Brugge. Nkoudou moved a few days ago.

Prederick wrote:

Someone tell Vincent that being a player-manager stopped being a realistic possibility about 25 years ago.

You're gonna have to choose one, dude. And player might not be it.

(Worse, you might not cut it as a manager either.)

Kompany is out as coach!

What football podcasts are you all listening to this season?

Only one I'm listening to is the Totally Football Show, though the one regular guest I don't like is the guy who works for Opta — all of Opta's public-facing stat stuff seems to be just trivia rather than anything actually meaningful and he brings up a lot of trivial stats. The European show's a pretty nice edition and having it in one feed is convenient.

Have heard Football Weekly's been exceptional so far this season but I'm just not a Max Rushden fan and I did give the Totally Football League Show a try because I like the host but turned it off about 60 seconds in after he introduced both guests on that week "former footballers"; I find most of the time former footballers don't have much actually interesting analysis.

Fedaykin98 wrote:
Prederick wrote:

Someone tell Vincent that being a player-manager stopped being a realistic possibility about 25 years ago.

You're gonna have to choose one, dude. And player might not be it.

(Worse, you might not cut it as a manager either.)

Kompany is out as coach!

Kompany stepping straight into a player-coach role at a club as big as Anderlecht seemed a bit ridiculous to me. He seems a very intelligent person but parachuting right into that seemed a bit much. Edgar Davids went to Barnet to do it.

The Guardians Football weekly is all about Barry Glendenning to be honest. It’s a poorer show when he’s not on it. That said I think it’s much better than totally football. Their over dependence on Paddy Power really rankles, especially given what James Richardson used to say about the influence of betting companies on sport when he was still hosting the football weekly.

Both of those are still the best ones though. Radio 5s football daily is OK but is just the radio broadcast from the previous evening. Do not listen to the 606 podcast whatever you do though.

Anderlecht fan here!

Kompany's decision is a direct reaction to the last game, one we lost 4-2 to Kortrijk with four goals conceded in the second half. Vince himself didn't look great for at least 2 of those conceded goals, so hopefully he will now be able to focus on the game itself. Note that Kompany was by far the best player on the field in every other game before the last.

The level of play is slowly improving, from having most of possession without creating chances to dominating the game but failing to score from a myriad of opportunities. There has been a bit of bad luck too, and with Kompany fielding a lot of youngsters (average starting 11 age has been 22 or so, even with him on the pitch) there have been issues with mental resiliency: the team tends to implode upon the first setback.

I'm still skeptical whether Guardiola's playstyle is compatible with a financially constrained club like Anderlecht. Signing defenders with above Sunday League technical abilities has been an issue for years, especially at the wings. That's just one example, as a club at this level simply hasn't got the money to buy and more importantly keep the right players for the right positions. Plus there's a lot of baggage in overpaid players the club can't get rid of due to their high wages.

Any other Anderlecht coach would have been on the precipice of unemployment right now, but that's simply impossible due to the buy-in of the board. And that might be our biggest hope: IF this project is ever to succeed (my utopia: that Kompany instills a club culture similar to how Cruyff brought Totaalvoetbal from Ajax to Barcelona back in the day) it will need YEARS not weeks or months. Years to ditch the ballast in overpaid first team players, to bring the youth into the fold by having them play in the Pep philosophy from age 6, etc.

The fans are still patient though, as the level of play has improved, something we yearned for years. And because it's f*cking Vince

Dean Smith upbeat as Aston Villa aim to show F-word jibe is misplaced

To really offend people around Villa Park, just say the F word. After spending at least £127m on 12 players following promotion to the Premier League, Aston Villa fans get annoyed at accusations that their club are “doing a Fulham”, who splurged heavily last season only to flop out of the league with a whimper.

Ouch. I mean, I can't complain, but ouch.

PALACE WINS AT OLD TRAFFORD!

Norwich gave a strong accounting of themselves as well, but sadly lost to Chelsea by a goal.

Come on, Pool!

I joked, but... Chelsea really could've used David Luiz today.

I have realized recently that I judge people very harshly based on their hair. I can think of two guys at work whose hair I didn't approve of (hard to say why, honestly; I think I prefer neater hair). Anyway, I had an unreasoning negative impression of them.

One turned out to be a former semi-pro soccer player who wants to go to a Dynamo game with me, the other a hobby boardgamer who goes to a game night near my old house that I've wanted to go to for years.

The point of this story is twofold: Don't judge a person based on their looks, and I've never liked David Luiz.

Video of Fedaykin:

Jake's "Take Us Home" review:

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Bury expelled by English Football League after takeover collapses

I guess at least Bury fans can look forward to supporting a phoenix club next season, which beats whatever Quebec Nordiques/Montreal Expos fans are doing now.

The Football League completely failed Bury fans though. Fit and proper person test allows somebody banned from being a company director to take over, put himself and family on the payroll at huge wages, and charge the club over 20% interest on loans. It was basically an unscrupulous private equity firm takeover stripping all the cash from the club.

Bolton won’t be far behind.

I feel genuinely awful for fans of both teams. They didn't do anything to deserve this.

Sorbicol wrote:

Bolton won’t be far behind.

Very close, but reprieved.

Prederick wrote:

Jake's "Take Us Home" review:

I was very close to stop watching it just after we'd smashed WBA 4-0 and all was right with the world. But I stuck with it, and although the ending hurts, it was still a good watch. I liked the stuff with the fans, as much as I like the All or Nothing stuff, it never really digs into what a team can mean to the fans.

Van Dijk wins UEFA Men's Player of the year!

I am quite surprised, but it's also a totally good pick.

Champions League group stage draw is done!

Group A: Paris Saint-Germain, Real Madrid, Club Brugge, Galatasaray

Group B: Bayern Munich, Tottenham, Olympiakos, Red Star Belgrade

Group C: Manchester City, Shakhtar Donetsk, Dinamo Zagreb, Atalanta

Group D: Juventus, Atlético Madrid, Bayer Leverkusen, Lokomotiv Moscow

Group E: Liverpool, Napoli, RB Salzburg, Genk

Group F: Barcelona, Borussia Dortmund, Internazionale, Slavia Prague

Group G: Zenit St Petersburg, Benfica, Lyon, RB Leipzig

Group H: Chelsea, Ajax, Valencia, Lille

City can play their C team and still win the group with a 4-2-0 record.

I quite like Tottenham's draw, although I take nothing for granted after last Sunday.

I also love seeing Real and PSG in the same group, two teams I love to hate.

F has to be the group of death, right? Followed by D.

Prederick wrote:

Van Dijk wins UEFA Men's Player of the year!

I am quite surprised, but it's also a totally good pick.

not only that, but all the top six in voting not named Messi or Ronaldo are Liverpool players:

1. Virgil van Dijk – 305 points
2. Lionel Messi – 207 points
3. Cristiano Ronaldo – 74 points
4. Alisson - 57 points
5. Sadio Mané – 51 points
6. Mohamed Salah – 49 points

edit: (also, you add Messi and Ronaldo's votes together and van Dijk still has em beat)