KOTOR the movie may become a reality

Granted, it's Buzzfeed, but still!

I would love to see a KotOR movie, just not from Disney. They'd rather push a political message rather than tell a story, and the story of KotOR is what cements it into everyone's "best games ever" lists.

PurEvil wrote:

I would love to see a KotOR movie, just not from Disney. They'd rather push a political message rather than tell a story

What?

Stengah wrote:
PurEvil wrote:

I would love to see a KotOR movie, just not from Disney. They'd rather push a political message rather than tell a story

What?

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Stengah wrote:
PurEvil wrote:

I would love to see a KotOR movie, just not from Disney. They'd rather push a political message rather than tell a story

What?

Without further context, but based on other people who say this, I'd say it's the pernicious message that fascist empires are bad, and that women and people of color can be badass too.

Tanglebones wrote:
Stengah wrote:
PurEvil wrote:

I would love to see a KotOR movie, just not from Disney. They'd rather push a political message rather than tell a story

What?

Without further context, but based on other people who say this, I'd say it's the pernicious message that fascist empires are bad, and that women and people of color can be badass too.

Yeah, but that doesn't seem like Pur, so I'd rather wait for his answer before rushing to judgment.

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Yeesh. Not liking the new ones as much is fine, I don't like them as well as I do the original trilogy either. But is "men suck and women are better" the message you're actually getting from the recent Star Wars movies themselves, or is that the message you've been told it's pushing by certain contingents of the internet?

If that's how you feel, I don't think KoTOR will be up your alley either. It's got Bastila Shan in it after all, and while the default Revan was a man, you could play Revan as a woman, so there's no real reason they can't be written as a woman for the movie either.

Your perspective isn't an uncommon one, PurEvil. I don't agree with it, but appreciate you sharing it.

It's such old ground at this point, but it bears repeating. There's a pretty big blind spot at play when you think women being protagonists or in power is "political" and pushing an agenda. The typical way that men are in those roles are political and pushing an agenda too. Putting women and minorities in these powerful positions must feel like it's being "forced" (ha ha, nailed it) because it's not what you grew up with. I would imagine the thought "I can't believe they're forcing another young, naive white guy into this heroes journey protagonist role again," has occurred to you.

That's a limiting, harmful view. It doesn't mean you don't love and support your wife or that you're a bad person, but to my mind it's a dirty lens to view the world through. It clearly also makes you feel a bit defensive, judged and small too. If I'm stuck in a view that makes me feel that way, it's a good sign I need to get a few layers deeper into it and see where the heart of the matter is.

Anyway, sorry for the finger wagging, but I've had your reactions too sometimes and it's kinda painful seeing someone in throws of it. Wish you well!

Yeah... that is pretty much exactly the reaction I expected too. Obviously I either have some issue with women specifically, or I've been influenced by extreme groups that push their hatred on women (which I will freely admit exist, though I think they're idiots).

I'll just delete it, it's a silly hill to die on here.

I hope the rumor is true. I like KOTOR and I am one of those seemingly rare people who think the new movies are just fine. Not flawless or anything, but the originals surely weren't either.

PurEvil wrote:

Yeah... that is pretty much exactly the reaction I expected too. Obviously I either have some issue with women specifically, or I've been influenced by extreme groups that push their hatred on women (which I will freely admit exist, though I think they're idiots).

I'll just delete it, it's a silly hill to die on here.

Or you could try to explain why you feel the recent movies are pushing that view. I only offered the outside group possibility as it lines up really well with what they're claiming, but not at all what I got from the movie myself. I didn't feel Rey was being empowered at the expense of the men in the movie. Finn and Poe are also treated as being awesome, even though Rey is the primary protagonist and thus the most awesomest of the three. If you're rather take it to PM to avoid a potential dogpile that's fine, but like I said, that interpretation really does jive with the movies I saw unless you also buy in to the fairly blatant lies the angry fanboys have been spouting.

Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so excited about this! I really hope they don't drop the ball. And I really hope they go with FemRev. Can't wait to see what comes of this.

The thing I took from your now deleted post PurEvil is that you don't like the new films, but you're trying to justify that, and turning from 'I don't like this movie' to 'I don't like this movie because of Disney's political agenda' - it might just be that you don't like the films?

I didn't love the new movies, but I loved my daughters' reactions to a female protagonist and how excited they are to participate in this part of geek culture.

I look forward to seeing this in 2042.

Rat Boy wrote:

I look forward to seeing this in 2042.

Sounds good to me. I won't be able to remember the game's story (or my own name) by then.