The GWJ CRPG Club - Game 6: Arcanum (In Progress)

Finally made it Tarant after hitting Shrouded Hills and Dernholm. Barely scratching the surface, but playtime has been at a premium the last few weeks.

Redherring wrote:

And... done. The last part was a bit of a slog. I could have explored a little more and done more side quests, but the clunky ... everything was starting to grate on me. Lost a few companions in the last fight, oh well. Saved the world again, ready for the next one.

Congrats! Nice work!

I'm in! Just finished Dragon Age. I will start this one, once I come up for air.

Alright, put a "W" next to my name. I buckled down today, spent probably 6 hours, and finished it up. I needed to consult a walkthrough pretty heavily at about the 2/3rds mark because I totally lost track of the main story -- I had put the game down for a few weeks, and good grief, the quest and rumor logs are really poorly organized. Plus there were things I totally missed from earlier areas, which ended up being rather crucial.

merphle wrote:

Alright, put a "W" next to my name. I buckled down today, spent probably 6 hours, and finished it up. I needed to consult a walkthrough pretty heavily at about the 2/3rds mark because I totally lost track of the main story -- I had put the game down for a few weeks, and good grief, the quest and rumor logs are really poorly organized. Plus there were things I totally missed from earlier areas, which ended up being rather crucial.

Whoops! Sorry I missed this merphle! Congrats on finishing up!

Totally agree on the quest and rumor logs. I did a fair amount of walkthrough peeking in my game as well.

Lakerboy32 wrote:

I'm in! Just finished Dragon Age. I will start this one, once I come up for air.

Welcome welcome!

Argh. Trying to get this to boot up on GoG and...... no joy. I've changed nothing since I last played so no idea what the problem is.

EDIT: Well got it working but lost all the resolution settings from the patch. Ho hum.

Glad you got it kind of working again. How far along are you?

Godzilla Blitz wrote:

Glad you got it kind of working again. How far along are you?

I'm right at the start - Shrouded Hills? I'd made some progress in the town but then it crashed in the mine and I hadn't saved. I'll try again tomorrow. I will play this - on the basis I've never played it before - but it's going to be a full on "walkthrough" game to be honest. There is some quirky charm in there somewhere I think, but i'm probably going to have to go and find it.

So, through Shrouded Hills and on to Tarant. I know i need to go to Dernholm too but nobody has marked that on my map.

I'm settling into it a little more now (stuck with the half elf mage build) and while it has it's challenges (getting over the bridge in Shrouded Hills proved surprisingly hard) it seems to be going OK. It's as janky as heck to be honest but it does have a feel of a game that happened about 10 years too early - like all the crafting and whatnot (now a common gaming experience) just weren't ready when they made it.

I think I can see this through before I commit to Baldur's Gate.

Nice! Yeah, the bridge can be incredibly hard depending on how you've built your character.

It's not a terribly long game if you can be efficient in some of the bigger dungeons and stay mainly to the main story. I'm not sure how a mage will work in those large dungeons with fatigue restoration (so you can keep casting).

Godzilla Blitz wrote:

Nice! Yeah, the bridge can be incredibly hard depending on how you've built your character.

It's not a terribly long game if you can be efficient in some of the bigger dungeons and stay mainly to the main story. I'm not sure how a mage will work in those large dungeons with fatigue restoration (so you can keep casting).

Yeah this seems to be my main issue in combat. Harm is like magic bullet time until you run out of fatigue and then everyone just kicks you to death! I have a magic sword that seems to do a fair bit of damage, but I'm not really upgrading my meelee skill (I'm boosting Willpower to access more spells) so it feels a little limited.

I also need to work harder on finding quests I think - I fobbed off the Mage guy in Shroud Hills, I think that was a mistake - and I only just released before I stopped for the night that when you loot bodies, it's not just their inventory you need to loot but also need to click on their "equipped items" button so you can also take their weapons and armour. Doh!

I've also still only got Virgil. I think I need to give him a better weapon too.

OK so may have spent some time reading a walkthrough and now we are motoring through Tarant. Feels like something to get through how so hopefully the mood will last and we can see the game through. Need someone to tell me where Dernholm is though!

Can companions craft stuff? how do you make them do that?

Sorbicol wrote:

Can companions craft stuff? how do you make them do that?

Talk to the companion. There’s a menu choice for them to craft something for you.

At least, I think that’s what it is. I’m pretty sure I didn’t craft a single thing during my playthrough.

merphle wrote:
Sorbicol wrote:

Can companions craft stuff? how do you make them do that?

Talk to the companion. There’s a menu choice for them to craft something for you.

At least, I think that’s what it is. I’m pretty sure I didn’t craft a single thing during my playthrough.

Yep, that's correct.

*Legion* wrote:

LET'S DO THIS

Actually I'm grinding through the end of Divinity to try and get in under the buzzer, and then I need to play Dragon Age.

But in a few months I will play this and be SUPER HAPPY

It's a few months later!

Finally done with DA:O and ready to play the game I pushed so hard for us to pick.

My very preliminary attempts at running this game in Win10 a few months ago were not immediately successful. Wondering if I should stick with trying to run it natively, or if I should simply spin up a WinXP VM and play that way.

The Gog version works fine and is moddable. The Hi-Rez mod is a little temperamental, but once you'd tweaked it a little it does work. It makes the game much more bearable otherwise it's effectively only playable about 640x360 with the screen extremely zoomed in. There is a lot of walking around in this game, it's more than worth getting the Hi-Rez mod working enabling a much more zoomed out display.

I expect I would be installing the mod even if I am running in an XP VM, as I will still fullscreen that bad boy to fill my 1440p display.

Update on my progress: finished Shrouded Hills and am on my way to Tarant. This game, especially the combat, is strongly reminding me of Fallout 1 and 2.

Various things which are annoying me:

  • The scrolling of the screen is way too slow and jittery. This is much worse because it seems that a lot of this game involves running back and forth.
  • No autosaves! Gah!
  • The NPC dialogue appears by the NPC, but your dialogue options appear in the center screen.

I'm just clearing up in Tarant and I'm getting a lot of random crashes.

Also F7 is your quicksave key. I use it a lot.

Slow but solid progress tonight. I've cleared up most of the tarant quests I could find, went to Blackroot and cleared up there, found a priest who told me where Dernholm was and then went there to clear the final outstanding quest(s) from Shrouded Hills.

I'll progress the main plot again tomorrow. My Mage is now level 16 and - more or less - dealing with what most of the game dishes out. I'm an effete snob to be honest, but I'm a very dangerous one........

Level twenty I’m in a dungeon and Ore Golums and Seething Masses are completely destroying me. In a not fun way.

Had to retreat back to Tarant and regroup a little. Still a little more cash doesn’t hurt and, hopefully ready to go back and finish up now I have at least one new follower and a dog.

Also scroll Of exiting. Man there are some janky mechanics in this game!!

Attempt #2 at running this natively on Win10 (using the Multiverse edition this time) was an unmitigated disaster.

Done wasting my time with that. It's VM time.

*Legion* wrote:

Attempt #2 at running this natively on Win10 (using the Multiverse edition this time) was an unmitigated disaster.

Done wasting my time with that. It's VM time.

I'm having trouble with the HiRes patch at the moment. I can get the game to run but it runs at about 10fps. The "fix" is to "turn on the wrapper" (it'd inbuilt into the HiRes patch, and there is a stand alone you can try as well) - but every time I do the game won't even boot.

making for a painfully slow experience at the moment. It's a real shame, something in this game has really clicked for me now and I'm really enjoying it. but my god I need to fix this slow FPS problem. It's driving me nuts.

Update: Did a lot of stuff in Tarant, Black Root, and Dernholm. Went a little ways into the Black Mountain mines but got really scared and backed off. Currently level 15 with most everything investing dex, melee, dodge, and charisma.

Sorbicol wrote:

I'm having trouble with the HiRes patch at the moment. I can get the game to run but it runs at about 10fps. The "fix" is to "turn on the wrapper" (it'd inbuilt into the HiRes patch, and there is a stand alone you can try as well) - but every time I do the game won't even boot.

When the game won't boot at all, have you tried launching from the config.exe inside the Arcanum folder?

Mine wouldn't launch at all from the Steam launcher. It would crash to desktop every time. I tried a few fixes but failed. On a whim I tried launching directly from the config.exe file, and that worked perfectly.

Godzilla Blitz wrote:
Sorbicol wrote:

I'm having trouble with the HiRes patch at the moment. I can get the game to run but it runs at about 10fps. The "fix" is to "turn on the wrapper" (it'd inbuilt into the HiRes patch, and there is a stand alone you can try as well) - but every time I do the game won't even boot.

When the game won't boot at all, have you tried launching from the config.exe inside the Arcanum folder?

Mine wouldn't launch at all from the Steam launcher. It would crash to desktop every time. I tried a few fixes but failed. On a whim I tried launching directly from the config.exe file, and that worked perfectly.

I'm playing with the gog version. It's fairly apparent from the two that there are some big differences, but I'll give that a go. Anything to stop the terrible fps. I went to

Spoiler:

The haunted castle in Asbury to farm some XP and cash, but I was dealing with 4fps for most of the time.

Well, fixed my performance issues by booting directly from Arcanum.exe in my gog folder. Suddenly it's 60fps a go-go and the whole experience has improved considerably.

Now level 26 and off to find the Wheel clan. My mage is now wiping the floor with pretty much everything that comes my way, and my dog cleans up anything I miss (not a lot) - in fact they are so efficient that Gar, Magnus and Virgil barely get a look in. There are some very odd design decisions in the game - because I am a mage I can't use anything technological for poorly explained reasons which means most of the mass transit system I can't use, nor can I trade in a lot of shops in Tarant. Which is really annoying. As is shop keepers in general not being interested in the high quality gear chewing up my inventory space. I've been resorting to Junk dealers for the most part although I noted most of the shops in Dernholm would still trade with me. Not in Ashbury though.

However despite all of that this I can see why so many people rate this game. It truly was way ahead of it's time with the whole Magick/Technological conflict, crafting system and number of different classes it gives you to play with. What a real shame nobody has really thought about making a game in a similar setting using much more modern game engines and mechanics. I would think Pillars of Eternity 3 set in Eora centuries hence would be really interesting if they really come through with the tech side, and what that means to the gods in those games. The outline is there in what happens in PoE2, I wonder - assuming they are making PoE3, if that's what they have in mind.

So I (finally!!) made it through the Black Mountain Mine. Good god it was painful. Currently level 24 and on my way to Ashbury. Maxed Dodge and Melee (haven't trained to Master yet) and am working up my Strength and Charisma.

Honestly, if there was a cheat for teleportation and/or fast movement I would install it in a heartbeat. I'm interested in the gameworld and story, but traveling is just. so. painfully. slow.

Math wrote:

So I (finally!!) made it through the Black Mountain Mine. Good god it was painful. Currently level 24 and on my way to Ashbury. Maxed Dodge and Melee (haven't trained to Master yet) and am working up my Strength and Charisma.

Honestly, if there was a cheat for teleportation and/or fast movement I would install it in a heartbeat. I'm interested in the gameworld and story, but traveling is just. so. painfully. slow.

I believe there is a mage spell for that.

Sorbicol wrote:
Math wrote:

So I (finally!!) made it through the Black Mountain Mine. Good god it was painful. Currently level 24 and on my way to Ashbury. Maxed Dodge and Melee (haven't trained to Master yet) and am working up my Strength and Charisma.

Honestly, if there was a cheat for teleportation and/or fast movement I would install it in a heartbeat. I'm interested in the gameworld and story, but traveling is just. so. painfully. slow.

I believe there is a mage spell for that.

Yeah, not a mage