Kpop music thread. Stan talent, Stan-all.

Since the Momoland concert for July was canceled, and they've been announced as a participating group in this year's KCON in LA, I've decided to see about attending KCON. I've already booked a place, and concert tickets go on sale Friday. I really hope I can get tickets. I just wish I could afford the higher end ones... backstage events, extra hi-touch events, or a private meet & greet. All for only $1,000 or $1,800!

Of course, once you buy in to all the highest of the lower tiers and all the extras, it's already over $600, and $1k doesn't seem that much more... {cough} {cough}

But some really good groups announced:

Momoland
Everglow
fromis_9
IZ*ONE
Mamamoo
Seventeen
Stray Kids
+others

And the real reason I came to post is to pass along to Tscott-- LOONA has just been announced for KCON as well! Not sure where you live or if an LA convention would even be possible for you, but I thought I'd pass it along. If nothing else, I'll try and get some good pictures or some merch I can pass along to you. Provided I get tickets. Dunno what the demand will be like.

Yeah, I saw it on Twitter. Both ReacttotheK and FormofTherapy were talking about it. Unfortunately, LA seems just about as far away from me as South Korea financially. I'd love to go but there's no way. If you make it and see them I'll be glad to view any photos you manage to take.

Ah well. Dang.

I think I read Everglow had to cancel out of kcon as they couldn't get Visas to get into U.S.

JeremyK wrote:

I think I read Everglow had to cancel out of kcon as they couldn't get Visas to get into U.S.

They were slated for KCON NY and canceled because of the VISA issues. They're now slated for KCON LA, and hopefully that'll give them enough time to sort out whatever the issues were.

Antichulius wrote:
JeremyK wrote:

I think I read Everglow had to cancel out of kcon as they couldn't get Visas to get into U.S.

They were slated for KCON NY and canceled because of the VISA issues. They're now slated for KCON LA, and hopefully that'll give them enough time to sort out whatever the issues were.

According to this they tried but failed so had to cancel LA as well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/kpop/commen...

Dang. That sucks. I hadn't heard that update yet.

So, apparently, falling down the rabbit hole of this thread has led me to some interesting news. It seems that Mina from TWICE is off the tour due to extreme anxiety to performing on stage. They seem to be getting her help and letting her rest, so it's cool that JYP is taking a mental health issue seriously.

Not that I'm a ONCE fan or anything!

Bit of a ramble, but tl;dr *I'm going to KCON*

So, KCON tickets just went up. I'm only coming here now because I finished getting mine. It was basically a ridiculous affair to get tickets. First off, there was a different waiting queue *for every tier of tickets.* So if you wanted Diamond, you had to wait for Diamond only and couldn't also try for Platinum or even regular tier tickets. Even more ridiculous because as far as I've been able to read, other years there were like 15 total Diamond tickets (compared to the 50,000+ attendees).

I wasn't trying for Diamond, but I did decide I wanted Platinum as it wasn't THAT much more than the top normal tier I would have gotten otherwise and everything I read described things that would make the experience more enjoyable for my particular temperament. I'm not all that in to crowds, and the Plat/Diam section is less crowded while still being right up close.

Then, after getting in, I had to CAPTCHA for every "no tickets available" refresh. Finally, one of my devices got in to where I could just click search over and over, with no results over and over. Finally, though, I got a ticket to pop up and snagged it. After getting and letting a regular tier time out on another device. In the end, very pricey, and all a bit stressful, but this should give me the best shot at the extras for Momoland and hopefully LOONA.

Turns out you can't pick which artists you want to see for Hi-touch, etc. You get a random assignment that you can then sell, swap, or buy to get the one(s) you want. I understand given the crowd sizes and limited numbers, but it was again a reason that I opted for Platinum as I'll have double the chance to get what I want or have ones good enough to sell/swap for what I want.

I'm a bit dumbfounded that I'm spending so much on this. Honestly, I don't think I would have, had I not mentally spent like $800 total on the canceled trip to see Momoland. That put me in a different mental space where spending a few hundred more than that on tickets alone wasn't all that far-fetched. In the end, this will be the most expensive thing I've ever done for myself, like, ever.

Maybe I really am going through a mid-life crisis and this is my new sportscar.

Congrats on getting a ticket Antichulius. I hope you have a blast!

Grenn wrote:

So, apparently, falling down the rabbit hole of this thread has led me to some interesting news. It seems that Mina from TWICE is off the tour due to extreme anxiety to performing on stage. They seem to be getting her help and letting her rest, so it's cool that JYP is taking a mental health issue seriously.

Not that I'm a ONCE fan or anything!

I can the point of view that the industry as a whole may not be the healthiest, but I got to believe that things are getting better and companies are treating their idols more and more like people, and not commodities. Glad that Mina's getting the help she needs and the company is willing to work with her. I think that the popularity of Kpop has something to do with it- as fans adore and want what's best for their favorites. If Kpop fans get the feeling that their idols are being mistreated, they're going to let the companies know it.

This is also why I love seeing Mamamoo perform songs in onesies or Loona members just goofing off on Loona TV. It shows they're able to blow off some steam and not take things too seriously from time to time.

I’m really glad to hear they’re giving Mina some time off and some help. So much of the industry side of Kpop seems like a grinder, but a ray of hope like this is great.

For all the criticism and flak that MLD gets on their handling of Momoland, one thing they’ve done is made it very clear that they value the idols health. At least half of the members have missed various promotions or concerts at one time or another for health reasons. I can only hope they also take mental health as seriously as JYP is with Mina.

I know it’s cultural more than anything, but it always hits me when I hear an idol say they will work harder for their fans. Like, I imagine these are some of the hardest-worked people and their response is so often, I will do more.

I did just finish a book called The Birth of Korean Cool that’s a good read. It’s a broad view, only half of a chapter focuses on Kpop, but it gives a good perspective on Korean culture, history, and their sudden rise the past 20-ish years. If nothing else, it put the Korean work-ethic into a frame that I get it now. It still pains me to see idols work so hard and then promise to work harder, but I get it a little bit better now.

Also, I could use some help. Before KCON, I want to get more familiar with the groups I’ve never heard or have ignored/overlooked. So if anyone has a favorite song(s) I should start with, I want to have a small primer for each group before I go.

Artist list

KCON wrote:

AB6ix
Ateez
IZ*One
LOONA
Nu’est
Oneus
SF9

Chung Ha
Fromis_9
Itzy
Mamamoo
N.Flying
Seventeen
Stray Kids
VeriVery

Antichulius wrote:

Also, I could use some help. Before KCON, I want to get more familiar with the groups I’ve never heard or have ignored/overlooked. So if anyone has a favorite song(s) I should start with, I want to have a small primer for each group before I go.

Here's my quick opinions on those I know about

IZ*One - They're new. They debuted with La Vie en Rose, and have a comeback Violetta. They haven't clicked with me- but they're very popular and seem like they could be up your alley.
LOONA - you know my answer to this one -everything
Oneus - They're new this year. Boy group. They debuted with Valkarie which was a song I really liked. Their comeback, Twilight, hasn't stuck with me however.

Chung Ha- great solo artist. Roller Coaster, Gotta Go, and Snapping are the ones to check out.
Fromis_9- really like them. I think I posted Love Bomb and their latest FUN! in this thread. I'm not too familiar with them beyond those.
Itzy - They debuted this year with Dalla Dalla and are very popular- (they're with JYP - same company as Twice). Good song. They'll also have their first comeback at the end of this month. I'm looking forward to it.
Mamamoo - Oh boy. I honestly think Mamamoo are empirically the best, most talented, group out there. Enjoy them. Currently they just completed a 4 mini-album series of the 4 seasons (4 colors)- and Starry Night, Egotistic, Wind Flower and Gogobebe are the main tracks from those.
Seventeen - Boy group. I really like their song Home. I don't know much else about them.

I just got into Mamamoo recently with Gogobebe. I was really missing out.

YUKIKA - Cherries Jubiles

Here's a lovely new song that needs attention. Music is by Monotree who do a lot of songs for LOONA and this definitely has that sort of vibe of one of the LOONA solo songs. The video combines the acoustic version and the normal version of the song so that's why it changes in the middle.

Thanks for the breakdown, Tscott. I started with IZ*ONE. I really like them. Straight up my alley is right. Also Fromis_9 is good, I've been listening to FUN after you posted and branched out since. They have some good songs, and they've now made it onto my regular rotation. Mamamoo and ITZY are next on my list.

Posting for reference for the next time I'm browsing itunes:

Nature - Some (You'll Be Mine)

(Note: they're singing "Some & Love", and not "summer love")

Pink Fantasy - Iriwa

Wut?