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Hyolyn - Say My Name

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First new photo of Wendy in 8 months!! She'll be joining all the other members of Red Velvet on a cover of BoA's Milky Way as part of a tribute to BoA album by various SM artists. Single for this cover should be releasing tomorrow. YAY!!!

Also releasing tomorrow is Twice's English version of More & More.

So happy her recovery has gone so well, and also glad she's coming back slowly and cautiously.

Antichulius wrote:

So happy her recovery has gone so well, and also glad she's coming back slowly and cautiously.

Same. It's nice to see that she received the time and support she needed to make a full recovery.

Tscott wrote:

Also releasing tomorrow is Twice's English version of More & More.

Speaking of English songs:

They'll be performing live on the the VMAs on August 30th. That should be pretty cool.

And speaking of comebacks, Hyuna and KARD are set for the 26th, as is the debut for Purple Rain.

Also just announced today:
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KDA returns on the 27th! It's labeled as a pre-release single, so I'm really hoping that means they have a mini-album in the works.

And then Blackpink x Selena Gomez on the 28th. I don't think there has been a crazier month for comebacks since I've started following K-pop. August has truly been ridiculous.

Red Velvet - Milky Way

The original song by BoA from 2009

I had my fingers crossed for a full MV, but this is just a lyric video for the pre-release track. Love the song though. On the plus side, from the YouTube description: "Following their explosive “POP/STARS” debut, K/DA returns this year with a long-awaited EP—coming soon."

I'm sure there will be an animated MV when they drop the title track for the EP, probably around the time of the LoL World Championship, which I believe starts in about a month.

Comebacks from ATEEZ:

and KARD:

And in the world of K-hip hop, I have been loving this:

Blackpink in a few hours. Based on the teasers, this is going to be a much lighter sound and concept for them. I'm excited.

Ice Cream's a lot of fun. I had to watch it twice before coming here. I was thinking it was going to be 100% English like the new BTS song, but then Lisa came in with her iconic rapping at the end which added some Korean. Just slightly over a month away from their first full album. I'm really looking forward to it.

This stage practice by ITZY is super cool. It's basically just a dance practice video with live vocals. It really shows off the members that have the most stable vocals while dancing. I thought they all did well, but Yeji and Chaeryeong in particular stand out as being very stable while dancing. Chaeryeong needs more lines. I would love for other groups to post videos like this.

Nice. I missed that when it came out. I agree Chaeryeong is their secret weapon and needs opportunities to shine more.

I did just watch this dance practice which came out yesterday and I enjoyed it for a different reason. The focus here isn't on the vocals.

It's just them in skeleton outfits dancing to the song- but two members get a twist in the middle. And the intro and outtakes at the end are just fun to watch.

If you ever want to know what the difference between dancing and being a dancer, I can tell you. I was in Show Choir for four years in high school. Every season, we would set aside three Saturdays where we would spend twelve hours in the school learning all our choreography for 6 songs (Opener, Ensemble 1, Boy's song, Girl's song, Ensemble 2, Closer). They were grueling affairs and even our "talent" were pissed off and bitchy by the end of the day. Then we would spend every weekday practicing the choreography one hour before school starts. This would go on for six to seven months until competitions were over and we just kept up for the odd performance. It was worth it for the performances, especially when we started to get good, but it was on the backs of all those hours of practice.

I just heard more laughter and saw more fun being had in 3 minutes of those five young women practicing than I saw or experienced in around 624 hours of Show Choir with 30+ of my peers. And this is just practice. That, more than anything, is probably what draws me to this genre.

I'm really liking this comeback.

I don't know much about Lovelyz, but I think this is a bit of a departure from their usual sound.

Tscott wrote:

I don't know much about Lovelyz, but I think this is a bit of a departure from their usual sound.

Definitely. It sounds like a song that IZ*ONE or WJSN would release.

I only know about Lovelyz because they participated in Queendom. Their concept until now was very cutesy/innocent, similar to APink before "I'm So Sick", so perhaps they're trying to transition in a similar way. I remember them having several very strong vocalists.

I dug into them a little bit after watching Queendom. My favorite track by far was Destiny, which I may have already linked here before, but just in case:

Their most famous track is "Ah-Choo". It's of the upbeat, cutesy vibe that I typically don't tend to care much for, but this is one of the rare exceptions. Very catchy.

One of their members also made a solo debut back in May that I enjoyed quite a bit:

New CLC comeback tomorrow.

Yep. New CLC and it doesn't disappoint- because CLC never disappoints (except that I can't find this song on Itunes yet...).

Solid CLC comeback! I quite like it. It's on Apple Music with an English version as well. Haven't gotten to it yet, but I'm intrigued. Seems like there's a sudden influx of English versions generally, which I'm torn about. I appreciate it and like to hear them, but I think I'll always prefer the Korean originals.

Helicopter also arrived on iTunes a few hours later. They had me worried because “Me” and “Devil” were missing on iTunes for months after their release. I was afraid the same thing was happening again.

Really happy to have another solid CLC comeback. I like the song overall, but the chorus is a little underwhelming to me. It just seems a bit sparse instrumentally. It also seems like the kind of chorus that might grow on me with a few more listens.

A couple notable comebacks from male soloists:

Another funky song from Jackson Wang:

and ex-Monsta X's Wonho's big debut as a soloist:

Damn. How the hell do you get a body like that with an idol's schedule? Pretty good song too.

another solid CLC comeback

You keep calling these things 'comebacks', but wouldn't it be more accurate to just call them 'their newest album'?

Malor wrote:
another solid CLC comeback

You keep calling these things 'comebacks', but wouldn't it be more accurate to just call them 'their newest album'?

It's a kpop thing. A group's first release is their "debut". Every other time they release a song after that it's a "comeback".

The "comeback" usually comes with several weeks of promotions on Korean TV/Radio shows where they perform the choreography for the new song and, depending on the show, get interviewed and play games.

Sometimes groups might release a "song for the fans" or a "cf" (commercial film) video that's not a true comeback, but in most cases "comeback" is what they call it.

Malor wrote:
another solid CLC comeback

You keep calling these things 'comebacks', but wouldn't it be more accurate to just call them 'their newest album'?

Any new release in the form of a single, mini-album (EP), or album that is tied to a promotional cycle is referred to as a comeback in K-pop. It doesn't refer to a return to action or prominence after a long hiatus the way it does in western media. The promotional cycle may seem like an unnecessary distinction, but it can be a big deal for most groups.

Just because I have a good example for them off the top of my head, Dreamcatcher released "R.o.S.E BLUE" about 6 weeks ago. "R.o.S.E BLUE" was a collaborative track for a mobile game. It had a few pre-release teasers, but it did not have any live stages after the fact on Korean music shows to promote the track. They also did not tour Korean variety programs after releasing it. "R.o.S.E BLUE" was not an official comeback.

Dreamcatcher "came back" when they released "BOCA" two weeks ago. They led with a track list teaser image, videos for lyrics spoilers, a highlight medley for the mini-album, a dance preview, and two teaser videos for the official MV. They had a comeback showcase on release, which is sort of a press conference for fans and media where they perform their single and other songs from the album. Since then, they have performed on a number of live Korean music chart shows where they competed against other groups that have recently had comebacks. After the official MV, they released fanchant , dance practice, and performance videos for "BOCA" and have appeared on several talk shows and variety shows.

R.o.S.E BLUE is currently sitting at 2.1 million views on YouTube after six weeks vs. BOCA's 19.3 million views after two weeks. Obviously, some of the difference is due to differences in song preference, but the "official comeback" label and all the promotion tied to it can add up quickly when it comes to success of a new release.

Ah, okay, so it's just a different language and marketing model. I guess I shouldn't expect them to adhere to Western music industry practices.

(edit: not least because making money in music is so different than it used to be.)

Two debuts today. First, APink's Namjoo:

It's not at all the kind of song I would have predicted for her given APink's sound, but I think it works pretty well for her.

Oh My Girl's YooA:

Aside from some questionable CGI at the start, the production on this video seems surprisingly high quality for a solo debut from a group like Oh My Girl. The sweeping camera shots remind me a lot of Mamamoo's "Starry Night".

and a comeback from Taemin:

I mentioned a few weeks ago that I wasn't really feeling "2 Kids" by Taemin. This is what I was waiting for. No other solo K-pop artist is doing these kinds of moody and dramatic performances.

Dyni wrote:

Two debuts today. First, APink's Namjoo:
It's not at all the kind of song I would have predicted for her given APink's sound, but I think it works pretty well for her.

This song was written and produced by Soyeon of (G)I-dle which explains why it doesn't sound like APink. Soyeon certainly has a distinct style in her writing which can be heard in her (G)I-dle songs as well as the songs she's done for others (this one and CLC's 'No').

Oh My Girl's YooA:
Aside from some questionable CGI at the start, the production on this video seems surprisingly high quality for a solo debut from a group like Oh My Girl. The sweeping camera shots remind me a lot of Mamamoo's "Starry Night".

In the pre-release chatter I saw about this video, one of the influences is Studio Ghibli films like Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke. For that I'll forgive the CGI and the possibly questionable face paint.

Mamamoo - Wanna Be Myself

Spoiler:

not a true comeback, but a commercial film (CF) for a clothing line. But the song's so good...

First fromis_9 release since Fun! which was over a year ago.

fromis_9 - Feel Good

I'm glad fromis_9 is still around. I was wondering about them a month or so back.

Speaking of groups that we're waiting for a comeback... Loona posted a teaser today that their next album, 12:00, will be out on October 19th. So about a month away. Yay!

Another Stray Kids song I'm enjoying.
Back Door

And SuperM have finally released a song that doesn't immediately make me want to cringe on first listen.

Tiger Inside